Trouble sourcing Worm Power Vermicompost

Kind Sir

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calliandra

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I'm sorry to make a thread just for this, but I'm having trouble finding this without shipping prices from builds soil/ their home site. My area has crap for local sourcing during the summer, so winter is worse.
I found coast of Maine here for 8$ Cu. Ft plus 15$ shipping seems like a deal. What do you guys think?
http://www.idealtruevalue.com/store/p/173736-Quoddy-Blend-CUFT-Lobster-Compost-Extra-Rich-Soil-Conditioner-For-Flow.html#
looks kinda fascinating, but is not really vermicompost? :D
 

Wetdog

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Good memory man. Yea I'm harvesting it now, but it was too small and need more. I want good VC to start with, and I hear good things about Worm Power.
IDK man. Instead of expensive stopgap measures like the Worm Power or, CoM stuff, why don't you take the same $$$ and get your worm bin right? One big tote with no drainage or air holes just ain't gonna cut it, as you've seen.

Wet
 

greasemonkeymann

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Good memory man. Yea I'm harvesting it now, but it was too small and need more. I want good VC to start with, and I hear good things about Worm Power.
how much do you have man?
the primary reason (I know you know this, but it's worth mentioning) the primary reason people use castings is solely from the microbial diversity (typically of the bacterial variety)
but past inoculating your soil the castings themselves (albeit AWESOME) don't do a whole lot past that
now I know you are thinking the macro and micro values are pretty good, but the plant really benefits from the microbes
especially establishing "virgin" soils
 

Kind Sir

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how much do you have man?
the primary reason (I know you know this, but it's worth mentioning) the primary reason people use castings is solely from the microbial diversity (typically of the bacterial variety)
but past inoculating your soil the castings themselves (albeit AWESOME) don't do a whole lot past that
now I know you are thinking the macro and micro values are pretty good, but the plant really benefits from the microbes
especially establishing "virgin" soils
I'll answer both you cool cats here. I HAVE very little VC, I'd say around a gallon or two screened.

Im looking to have say two 15gals, and 1 ten gal fabrics minimum. So that's say 13 gallons of VC just for the soil mixture. At the very least, I'd want 3 Cu Ft of it. After this experience sourcing it, I'll make sure I make enough.

I can't find anything local as of YET, so any online options are much appreciated. Grease, you remember that purple cow (brand, not manure) compost I Showed you? I might get more of that. Here's its description.



Purple Cow Organics Activated Compost With MicroLife is a scientifically formulated, tested, and certified premium compost - vermicompost based product. It delivers a full-range of benefits, along with metabolic building blocks to enrich and enliven your soil's foodweb. Purple Cow is formulated beginning with composted leaves and alfalfa fiber. Alfalfa contains a naturally-occurring plant hormone; triacontanol, that research has proven to promote root growth. During the composting process of Purple Cow, beneficial "soil foods", including greensand, rock dusts, and kelp meal stimulate a diversity of microorganisms along with adding macro and micronutrients. Kelp contains growth hormones, auxins, cytokines, and gibberellins, which increase root development substantially. Finally, MicroLife, Purple Cow's own blend of vermicompost worm castings, is added for final activation of the product. Purple Cow supplies beneficial microorganisms and organic humus to the growing media of soil, harmoniously enhancing your soil's biology and making nutrients more available for plant uptake. Purple Cow improves soil structure and porosity, creating a better plant root environment, resulting in a healthier plant overall.
 

greasemonkeymann

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I'll answer both you cool cats here. I HAVE very little VC, I'd say around a gallon or two screened.

Im looking to have say two 15gals, and 1 ten gal fabrics minimum. So that's say 13 gallons of VC just for the soil mixture. At the very least, I'd want 3 Cu Ft of it. After this experience sourcing it, I'll make sure I make enough.

I can't find anything local as of YET, so any online options are much appreciated. Grease, you remember that purple cow (brand, not manure) compost I Showed you? I might get more of that. Here's its description.



Purple Cow Organics Activated Compost With MicroLife is a scientifically formulated, tested, and certified premium compost - vermicompost based product. It delivers a full-range of benefits, along with metabolic building blocks to enrich and enliven your soil's foodweb. Purple Cow is formulated beginning with composted leaves and alfalfa fiber. Alfalfa contains a naturally-occurring plant hormone; triacontanol, that research has proven to promote root growth. During the composting process of Purple Cow, beneficial "soil foods", including greensand, rock dusts, and kelp meal stimulate a diversity of microorganisms along with adding macro and micronutrients. Kelp contains growth hormones, auxins, cytokines, and gibberellins, which increase root development substantially. Finally, MicroLife, Purple Cow's own blend of vermicompost worm castings, is added for final activation of the product. Purple Cow supplies beneficial microorganisms and organic humus to the growing media of soil, harmoniously enhancing your soil's biology and making nutrients more available for plant uptake. Purple Cow improves soil structure and porosity, creating a better plant root environment, resulting in a healthier plant overall.
absolutely my man, i was going to mention that, honestly icouldnt remember if it was you that used it before or not, and i was looking for the thread
but yea, that's what i'd use, and if it were me?
i'd mix ALL of your existing wormbin in together with that purple cow, and give it a week or so to let those microbes proliferate
maybe a speck of baby oatmeal in there too
 

Kind Sir

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absolutely my man, i was going to mention that, honestly icouldnt remember if it was you that used it before or not, and i was looking for the thread
but yea, that's what i'd use, and if it were me?
i'd mix ALL of your existing wormbin in together with that purple cow, and give it a week or so to let those microbes proliferate
maybe a speck of baby oatmeal in there too
Yea, I can get that stuff about 50minutes away. Beats insane shippings prices, I'm still getting one bag of CoM to compare with. Should be interesting considering I'm trying Bodhi for the first time. I'm starting off small and only getting few beans of Sunshine Daydream and Goji OG. Will def keep a male or two in a bathroom to get more seeds.
 

calliandra

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i'd mix ALL of your existing wormbin in together with that purple cow, and give it a week or so to let those microbes proliferate
maybe a speck of baby oatmeal in there too
excellent idea, then all the microorganisms will have a chance to spread out, not just the ones that do well in water - plus it'll be a bumper for the fungi too :D

Oh! And letting that wormcompost sit at the same temperature as it will be used in will naturally promote those kinds of microbes that will be active in your grow environment too. Just gently pushing them in the direction you want them to go a bit more ;)
 

greasemonkeymann

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excellent idea, then all the microorganisms will have a chance to spread out, not just the ones that do well in water - plus it'll be a bumper for the fungi too :D

Oh! And letting that wormcompost sit at the same temperature as it will be used in will naturally promote those kinds of microbes that will be active in your grow environment too. Just gently pushing them in the direction you want them to go a bit more ;)
damn good point
 

ShLUbY

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What is your take on rock dust? What do you use? Is there a difference between basalts.

I was reading @Wetdog I believe it was you, regarding rock dusts. The OP was saying they even use it in AACT, as it helps the microbes cling onto and grow? Seems helpful to have an atleast semi diverse rock dust variety potentially
basalts will all be pretty similar since they are a type of microcrystaline volcanic rock that is made up of several minerals: augite, plagioclase, and olivine. there will be other trace minerals that can be present in this as well but the majority are the three listed.

i like to use at least two types of rock dust.

glacial will probably be the most diverse since the rocks from glacial deposits will come from various locations from the continent on which they were taken by the glaciers themselves and transported to different regions.

i believe that rock dusts are that "secret ingredient" that contributes to better smells and flavors. It's just like the difference between hydroponic grown produce, and produce grown in a diverse natural soil. the hydroponic produce will be less nutrient/mineral diverse because it's going to only be fed the "essentials" for growth in terms of micro and macro nutrients from bottles. Whereas, in a diverse organic/native soil, you get the produce taking in minerals that are present in the medium, and effect the actual taste/flavors of the produce not to mention make them more healthy because you are taking in those minerals as well!
 

Wetdog

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What is your take on rock dust? What do you use? Is there a difference between basalts.

I was reading @Wetdog I believe it was you, regarding rock dusts. The OP was saying they even use it in AACT, as it helps the microbes cling onto and grow? Seems helpful to have an atleast semi diverse rock dust variety potentially
I use granite dust. It's local, and a 5gal bucket (~60-70lbs), cost only $5. You supply the bucket and shovel to fill it.

It just sinks to the bottom in any sort of tea. It's rock, ya know.

If I *had* to ship something, it would be Azomite, which I feel is the best value foe money spent on shipping. Just my opinion.

Wet
 

greasemonkeymann

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basalts will all be pretty similar since they are a type of microcrystaline volcanic rock that is made up of several minerals: augite, plagioclase, and olivine. there will be other trace minerals that can be present in this as well but the majority are the three listed.

i like to use at least two types of rock dust.

glacial will probably be the most diverse since the rocks from glacial deposits will come from various locations from the continent on which they were taken by the glaciers themselves and transported to different regions.

i believe that rock dusts are that "secret ingredient" that contributes to better smells and flavors. It's just like the difference between hydroponic grown produce, and produce grown in a diverse natural soil. the hydroponic produce will be less nutrient/mineral diverse because it's going to only be fed the "essentials" for growth in terms of micro and macro nutrients from bottles. Whereas, in a diverse organic/native soil, you get the produce taking in minerals that are present in the medium, and effect the actual taste/flavors of the produce not to mention make them more healthy because you are taking in those minerals as well!
good to have ya back my man
 

greasemonkeymann

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What is your take on rock dust? What do you use? Is there a difference between basalts.

I was reading @Wetdog I believe it was you, regarding rock dusts. The OP was saying they even use it in AACT, as it helps the microbes cling onto and grow? Seems helpful to have an atleast semi diverse rock dust variety potentially
I don't know if I'm the guy to talk about with teas anymore, it's been a LONG time..
after I really dialed in the compost I don't do much past transplanting, watering and paying the electricity
but no nutrients teas, no AACTs, no SSTs..
I do know that the majority of rock dust isn't soluble, so I doubt it's of much use to AACTs.
but t answer your question I use(d) glacial, and soft rock
but I haven't re-amended those in two yrs
ideally i'd go with glacial and basalt
don't like azomite for it's aluminum content, and I don't like granite for its radioactive content
 
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