Troubles Dabbing and Getting "Dabbed Out"- Please Help

Hey, I know this is long but I really don't have anywhere else to turn so I REALLY appreciate you taking the time! Thanks!

So, I've got what seems like a number of issues combined, lol. I always figured it was just the way it is but I keep seeing people taking huge dabs online and not so much as a cough after, so now I think something is wrong with me or what I'm doing.

Basically I dont get very high any more and can only take small hits without choking to death.

First thing I guess is tolerance;

A year ago when I got into dabs, I got SO fucking high off one or two dabs, and it would last an hour or more. That lasted for about 2-4 weeks, dabbing a few times a day maybe.

I was a noob with no dab friends so was using a shitty pipe and touching the shit way too hot. I quickly upgraded to a large recycler and using glass domed nail at first then moving to domeless quartz.

I should also note that a dab would send me into a 1-2 min coughing spree, after which I would feel so fucking good(sans the irritated throat). It was around this time I started learning more and trying different methods(pens, hot hit wands, etc).

Now it seems like I never get that high off concentrate anymore and it's not the same, regardless of how much I use.

Which brings up the second "issue", how to dab;

Obviously as I got used to dabbing I started to have to use more. But I also went through some serious upgrades and experimented with different methods...

I was on a hot-hit wand kick for a long time, which seemed to work very well, I used it on everything from a tiny bubbler, large recycler, 2' double perc waterpipe, etc. I can get great milky hits this way and without choking my face off, however the high doesn't seem to last much or be as intense and also created a TON of waste and reclaim.

So I moved on from there to an SSV oil kit, which seems to make me cough more, but also taste kinda bad as well as give a shorter "racy" high. I could not get near as much milk or take as large of hits. Using the SSV didn't last long for a few dif reasons. And I stuck with the wands for a long while.

This post is getting long so I'll skip over detailing things but I've tried various combos of pipes with other methods as well, Health Stone spoon, Worm Noodle, low temp, high temp, capping, etc, etc.

My current set up is a small-med size Illadelph recycer with a Perfect Temp e-nail. I can only take small dabs no matter what I do, unless I want to have a coughing fit, which is almost worth it given how i feel after 2-3 fits, lol. So I usually end up taking 5-10 small ones and feel somewhat dabbed out for about 15-30 min.

I run it at 610, 710, or 810 depending, they recommend 710 with the Ti nail. The specific numbers I use have no significance other than it's easy to change only the first number on the thing. 610 is better for low temp carb capping bho(510 is too low), wastes just a tad but milks up nice and can take slightly bigger hits. 710 is good for normal dabbing but I also cap it to milk it up, high seems to last a bit longer but is rougher on throat and lungs. 810 is for screen melting bubble, which I'm still trying to figure out honestly and wont go into atm.

One thing I think is a factor, esp when comparing to my "smoking history", lol. Is the climate. Moved here from Fl a year ago and it's very dry here. It takes some getting used to, esp in your sinuses and throat. I have humidifiers in my office and bedroom because I get so dyed out sometimes.

I think I get a better, longer high from flowers. It sound crazy, but I've come to prefer king size joints and/or spliffs(to me a spliff is flower and bubble hash, I know many of you consider it flower and tobacco).

With joints , I dont cough hardly at all(even with splifs), get a more stoney high, and it lasts much longer. Shit, when I smoke my homegrown, it's so smooth it doesn't even bother my throat. Granted I'm taking smaller hits but still, I can smoke it all the way down to the filter without the heat bothering my throat that much.

I used to use my large water pipe for flowers all the time. A few years ago I got a volcano and started using that all the time. Since moving here however, with the WAY better buds . I like smoking a joint or out of a clean hand pipe. I've tried going back to water with my large one, as well as the new Illadelph recycler(it's actually meant for flowers btw). But I just can't stand that bong water flavor any more, have to change it after every few hits, lol. And I can't seem to stand taking huge bong rips like I used to, both the taste and the hit are too much for me.

So anyway, thanks for checking out my rant, and if you have any input or advice please give it. I have videos and pics scattered around, I'll post some that might help in this thread as I find them or whatever.

Are you suppose to cough from doing dabs? My experience with dabbing has been very limited and it's always ended with a 1-2 minute coughing fit, even when using an e-nail.

I have GERD and so whenever I cough too hard it results in me throwing up. Am I not dabbing with good BHO? Or is the nail to hot for me?

I find 90% of what I smoke makes me feel the same way. It's a generic kush/indica narcotic stone that hits you hard at first but just leaves you tired within an hour. I've been getting depressed thinking that 'something was wrong' with me...Then I tried switching it up a little bit and started getting into some strong sativas and away from the heavy indicas and the magic came back. I realized that everything, BHO and Flower, is becoming almost identical. I had some Kali Mist and Jack Herer that made me remember what stoned was.

BHO always makes me cough and hurts the shit out of my throat. Even the bud run shatter I make and vac purge myself. I've even vac purged and winterized it and I feel like that makes it worse.

If I only smoke dabs for a day or two I get depressed. I think a lot of the terpenes and cannabiniods are left behind when making bho-and they are starting to find out just how important they are to the overall high a specific strain gives you. BHO might momentarily get me couch locked, but it's usually doesn't last very long and just makes me tired in the long run-that coupled with the pain of taking a big dab, and it's not my go to product.

I don't think it's you or your doing something wrong, I just don't think dabs are the best way to get really stoned.

It's great for making $$$-just remember that. I don't think it's a good product. I'm just starting to realize this. Prices fell big time and bho is a really good way for growers/dealers to squeeze some extra profit out of their op. It's been around for a long time, why would it just be getting popular if its such a great thing?

Full melt bubble, dry pressed, fresh charas are all superior products(taste better, better more well rounded stone) IMO, but none of them are very profitable-in fact they are actually down right wasteful to produce.

Eating is still the best way to get really stoned. I can smoke all the BHO i want, but that could never touch the hours long mind and body high a good edible can give you.

In short(or long, lol) I think BHO is way overrated.

Hey,

I'm on the fence about bho. I get some of the best you can buy around Denver or Boulder. And some of that shit tastes SO fucking good. I also practicality stalk Nikka T to find out when and where the bomb ass Solventless Wax gets dropped. It's close, but the the flavor and high of bho just seems better. I have the same issue dabbing bubble too, but i fucking love it in joints. Burned a cone of OG-18 with .5 of "Maple Kush" SLW mixed in the other day, fell asleep, lol.

And agreed on edibles man. I've been making my own for years, and was actually let down by dispensary edibles when I got out here. However, the drinks, esp the high mg ones, do the trick for me. I've been making edibles using concentrates actually, however the last few times I used too much bho or co2 oil or something and it fucking ruined the taste. I have 4 bags of crazy peanut butter chocolate caramel things that I am not eating cuz I dont like the flavor, anyone local wants em let me know, lol. I think I'm gonna start making concentrate drinks or maybe caps. I've been reading up on how to make super potent oil caps.

I dunno.... dabbing, esp with an enail, is so convenient and awesome, and actually better on your body and lungs in the long run, I've got to figure out how to get back to getting that high from it without coughing my face off.

I will say that reclaim caps can knock me on my ass. Clean your rig with some everclear or 90+% iso, then pour it out into a pyrex dish-let evaporate. Scrape reclaim up with razor blade and mix with equal parts coconut oil in a little shot glass or small bowl. I put it in the oven at 250 for 20mins, or as soon as all the little bubbles stop. While it's slightly warm I use a syringe and fill caps with it. I can get roughly .5 grams into a cap, and since it's a 1:1 ratio that's a .25. if they are made right that's a strong dose.

I know reclaim is decarbed, but once i started heating it in the oil the potency really increased. Skunkpharma or whatever that website is has a pretty good explanation as to why that is. It's also where I got the idea to make them that way.

I don't think it's just you though with the dabs. I'm also not sold on dabs being safer then smoking, that's just not a claim that can be made at this point. I know technically it's vaping, but I blow out a pretty big cloud of smoke and it definitely feels a lot worse then smoking properly dryed/cured buds, lol. I Just don't know!

Agreed. I think the consensus is that less plant material is more healthy. Also solvents eliminate any mold that might be present.

And thanks for the advice. I reclaimed a rig once and used it for cooking, since then I just clean the shit out once a week and don't save it.

Think I'm gonna start making caps out of fresh bho or h2o. I wonder if I can buy "food grade" hehe.

I cough like once a month off dabs but having said that...I was never a cougher off herb either. Hold your hit in as long as possible to condition your lungs. Works for me Cheers man.

Bho can be very harsh, loving to extract those fats and waxes. if you do bho, its best to winterize it, but even that won't remove a good portion of fats. When burned it converts to acrolein which is also very harsh.
I don't care for bho personally.. but also try using a dry piece, the bigger it is the more you lose. The water also cools much of the active compounds which proceed to condense on the sides of your piece. It really does make a difference, even switching from a 2ft bong to a smaller one.
My 2¢

And if you have this same issue with other extracts, I don't know what to tell you.. it is expansive in your lungs but most can take pretty huge hits

Flowers are better than concentrates because they have much more terpenes. Most concentrates all taste the same and effect you very similarly in my experience. At least the solvent extracted concentrates.

Granted some people like concentrates a lot, and more power to them. But I much prefer good flowers and always will. Or top flight dry sift/bubble.

I always feel bad for people that say this. Its literally cannabis essential oil. do you think peppermint oil for example doesn't smell as strong as the plant? Lol its many times stronger. So is proper hash oil. Stinks to high heaven

An eighth of weed smells ten times more than a gram of bho, shatter, budder, or solventless extracts. Some nug run bubblehash will smell a lot more though but still not as much as the nugs it self.

Don't dab....never will.....anything you have to light with a fucking torch is far too reminiscent of free base. Edibles do it for me.

Shit like this will turn the general population OFF to the legalization of weed...........just my $ 0.02...............carry on

It's ridiculous because it's become popular everyone's gotten into dabbing on a recreational basis dabbing is not recreational dabbing is for cancer patients for terminal people for seriously sick folks enjoy your flowers enjoy your Hash leave the intense fucking oils to the people on the way out of this world

Straight up dabbing was Dutch medical research for people that are fucking dying

If you need more than a nice hookah rip of some hash bro...

qwizoking said:

Bho can be very harsh, loving to extract those fats and waxes. if you do bho, its best to winterize it, but even that won't remove a good portion of fats. When burned it converts to acrolein which is also very harsh.
I don't care for bho personally.. but also try using a dry piece, the bigger it is the more you lose. The water also cools much of the active compounds which proceed to condense on the sides of your piece. It really does make a difference, even switching from a 2ft bong to a smaller one.
My 2¢

And if you have this same issue with other extracts, I don't know what to tell you.. it is expansive in your lungs but most can take pretty huge hits

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OGEvilgenius said:

Flowers are better than concentrates because they have much more terpenes. Most concentrates all taste the same and effect you very similarly in my experience. At least the solvent extracted concentrates.

Granted some people like concentrates a lot, and more power to them. But I much prefer good flowers and always will. Or top flight dry sift/bubble.

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IRON-EYES said:

It's ridiculous because it's become popular everyone's gotten into dabbing on a recreational basis dabbing is not recreational dabbing is for cancer patients for terminal people for seriously sick folks enjoy your flowers enjoy your Hash leave the intense fucking oils to the people on the way out of this world

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I've tried pretty much everything Co has to offer, lol. Live Resin, Regular Shatter, Dewaxed Shatter, Budder, Solventles Wax. Pretty much the only thing you can't find is traditional hash.

Btw, there are arguments for solvent extracts that rightly point out that they are healthier than using flower or bubble or sift hash. And that it's not just for terminally ill people. In fact, people that treat things like depression or ADD with cannabis, can use a few dabs a day, instead of ounces of flower a week.

I've also tired multiple methods, although have not tried all the newest dab pen tech. I tend to agree about the dry piece, and have a healthstone pipe. The issue there is you are sucking down tane from the torch and its like you don't get it hot enough and end up with this weird red color reclaim. I often use my sherlock with a Ti screen and hempwick to bubble solventless.

And yea... Concentrates, well properly made ones, taste and smell so fucking good, lol. I will agree that a jar flower can smell stronger or "more" overall but bho always tastes like the flower times 10.

I'm still somewhat confused when using solventless wax btw. No matter how you smoke it, it always ends up with this same funky taste at the end of the hit. I think I made a thread on this once actually. Like, use a pressed screen melt for example, this method gives you the best flavor and least residue, but while its melting, you only get a light vapor until it starts to taste bad at which point it smokes up really good but tastes like shit and makes me cough bad.

So yea King, I guess I do have trouble with all concentrates. The exception being I can easily smoke a king sized joint with solventless wax mixed in, it's the only way I can get really stoned anymore. Well and obviously oral consumption. I've taken up to 500mg at once in edibles(good times, lol)

Be blessd G find dabbin bliss

AlGore said:

Hey, I know this is long but I really don't have anywhere else to turn so I REALLY appreciate you taking the time! Thanks!

So, I've got what seems like a number of issues combined, lol. I always figured it was just the way it is but I keep seeing people taking huge dabs online and not so much as a cough after, so now I think something is wrong with me or what I'm doing.

Basically I dont get very high any more and can only take small hits without choking to death.

First thing I guess is tolerance;

A year ago when I got into dabs, I got SO fucking high off one or two dabs, and it would last an hour or more. That lasted for about 2-4 weeks, dabbing a few times a day maybe.

I was a noob with no dab friends so was using a shitty pipe and touching the shit way too hot. I quickly upgraded to a large recycler and using glass domed nail at first then moving to domeless quartz.

I should also note that a dab would send me into a 1-2 min coughing spree, after which I would feel so fucking good(sans the irritated throat). It was around this time I started learning more and trying different methods(pens, hot hit wands, etc).

Now it seems like I never get that high off concentrate anymore and it's not the same, regardless of how much I use.
Which brings up the second "issue", how to dab;

Obviously as I got used to dabbing I started to have to use more. But I also went through some serious upgrades and experimented with different methods...

I was on a hot-hit wand kick for a long time, which seemed to work very well, I used it on everything from a tiny bubbler, large recycler, 2' double perc waterpipe, etc. I can get great milky hits this way and without choking my face off, however the high doesn't seem to last much or be as intense and also created a TON of waste and reclaim.

So I moved on from there to an SSV oil kit, which seems to make me cough more, but also taste kinda bad as well as give a shorter "racy" high. I could not get near as much milk or take as large of hits. Using the SSV didn't last long for a few dif reasons. And I stuck with the wands for a long while.

This post is getting long so I'll skip over detailing things but I've tried various combos of pipes with other methods as well, Health Stone spoon, Worm Noodle, low temp, high temp, capping, etc, etc.

My current set up is a small-med size Illadelph recycer with a Perfect Temp e-nail. I can only take small dabs no matter what I do, unless I want to have a coughing fit, which is almost worth it given how i feel after 2-3 fits, lol. So I usually end up taking 5-10 small ones and feel somewhat dabbed out for about 15-30 min.

I run it at 610, 710, or 810 depending, they recommend 710 with the Ti nail. The specific numbers I use have no significance other than it's easy to change only the first number on the thing. 610 is better for low temp carb capping bho(510 is too low), wastes just a tad but milks up nice and can take slightly bigger hits. 710 is good for normal dabbing but I also cap it to milk it up, high seems to last a bit longer but is rougher on throat and lungs. 810 is for screen melting bubble, which I'm still trying to figure out honestly and wont go into atm.
One thing I think is a factor, esp when comparing to my "smoking history", lol. Is the climate. Moved here from Fl a year ago and it's very dry here. It takes some getting used to, esp in your sinuses and throat. I have humidifiers in my office and bedroom because I get so dyed out sometimes.

I think I get a better, longer high from flowers. It sound crazy, but I've come to prefer king size joints and/or spliffs(to me a spliff is flower and bubble hash, I know many of you consider it flower and tobacco).

With joints , I dont cough hardly at all(even with splifs), get a more stoney high, and it lasts much longer. Shit, when I smoke my homegrown, it's so smooth it doesn't even bother my throat. Granted I'm taking smaller hits but still, I can smoke it all the way down to the filter without the heat bothering my throat that much.

I used to use my large water pipe for flowers all the time. A few years ago I got a volcano and started using that all the time. Since moving here however, with the WAY better buds . I like smoking a joint or out of a clean hand pipe. I've tried going back to water with my large one, as well as the new Illadelph recycler(it's actually meant for flowers btw). But I just can't stand that bong water flavor any more, have to change it after every few hits, lol. And I can't seem to stand taking huge bong rips like I used to, both the taste and the hit are too much for me.

So anyway, thanks for checking out my rant, and if you have any input or advice please give it. I have videos and pics scattered around, I'll post some that might help in this thread as I find them or whatever.

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so what's the real reason for all this Al Gore of corse you don't cough from dabage broseph you invented the internet doggie