Trudeau's Handling Of The Cannabis Industry Risks Public Safety

kDude said:

crazy how little common sense government has eh?
EVERYONE can see it's problematic; the restrictions and marijuana monopoly for the elite.
yet here we go.

forget about poisons and supporting the already greedy rich even.. how about all that money -if we all fall in line like good little peons, that is - just going solely to a couple big entities instead of being spread around every community in every corner of canada, bringing much prosper to everyone.

money spent in your community stays in your community and benefit others businesses.. but nope; we'll send it all to the bigwigs bank account.

so glad this is going to fail miserably for them.. it's gonna be a crap time for a bit, but with everyone disobeying it; we should get a real legalization sometime after

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BobCajun said:

And how exactly would "real legalization" NOT result in huge corporations monopolizing the market? Do you have a few million dollars to set up a massive greenhouse operation and compete with RJ Reynolds? Is there much money in any other legal crop for small timers? Last I heard, family farms are barely scraping by, if they even manage to stay afloat.

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Flash63 said:

I don't have a million dollars,but I do have 5bucks to buy a bag of sheep shit and grow 5 pounds in my backyard..

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BobCajun said:

And how exactly would "real legalization" NOT result in huge corporations monopolizing the market?

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JungleStrikeGuy said:

Real legalization wouldn't require you to build a bank wrapped in a prison to grow a plant.

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BobCajun said:

Yeah I suppose, but then there's no chance whatsoever of there being no controls on Cannabis at all in our lifetime so we'll never know. It's still a powerful hypnotic or sedative drug so why would there ever be no controls? It's also extremely habit forming. The fact that it's hard to die from it doesn't make it a non-sedative drug. You also can't usually die from LSD. Should you be able to walk in a store and buy 100 hits? In theory maybe, but ain't never gonna happen in the real world.

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BobCajun said:

And how exactly would "real legalization" NOT result in huge corporations monopolizing the market? Do you have a few million dollars to set up a massive greenhouse operation and compete with RJ Reynolds? Is there much money in any other legal crop for small timers? Last I heard, family farms are barely scraping by, if they even manage to stay afloat.

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kDude said:

it's the fact that they can't even try to compete is what doesn't sit well with me.
i've actually no problems with big LPs.. in an open and fair market.
i don't like them being handed full control with little competition though. that's reeks of corruption.

this isn't like tomatoes.. more like wine, or craft beer.. where many smaller businesses with quality products can exist.. they aint trying to out-sell budweiser.

i've no problem if the LP's want to be the walmarts of weed.. but i want competition and smaller folks to be able to try and succeed too. (like i said; that only spreads the wealth instead of funneling it all to one place.. spreading the wealth in this means spreading the wealth in many other industries/communities as well)

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To date, Health Canada has accepted over 1600 applications to become licensed producers. Of these, 27 are licensed, and around 100 applications are at the final stage. The failure rate is very high, and the primary reason is the quality of documentation (especially the quality procedures) is poor. A good number of files have been refused because the proposed location of the facility doesn’t pass their security requirements (e.g., next door to a shopping mall). Also, many applications fail because the Quality Assurance Person (QAP) isn’t qualified for the role.

The quality documentation, as well as the qualifications of the QAP, are the primary reasons for failure. In short, the proposal has to be on par with what you would see in a pharmaceutical manufacturing facility. Health Canada does not define the requirements very carefully on their website, because they are only licensing high tier applicants. Unless you have someone with substantial proficiency in pharmaceutical quality system documentation, you will need a company like us to provide this to you.

You do not have to hire any staff, nor do you have to purchase/lease the location. At minimum, you have to identify your QAP on paper and demonstrate how they’re qualified under the MMPR. For the application, you need to identify a senior contact person as well as at least one floor manager. For the location, while you do not need to purchase or lease the land yet, you do need permission from the current land owner to have this business there (in writing); this usually means you own/lease the land/facility, but not necessarily. Ultimately you don’t want to lose this location while you’re in queue; if you do, you will mostly be starting from scratch.

How much does it cost to become a licensed producer? Generally speaking, if you already own the building and land, you should be forecasting between $80 and $150 per square foot of finished facility space. This would mean a 10,000 sqft facility would need between $800k and $1.5M to get this business off the ground. It’s always possible to build/renovate for less, but the costs add up quickly enough to keep small players out of the game. The Harper Government never intended this to be an industry model adaptable to small scales – it’s why they proposed the MMPR in the first place; that’s what the MMAR used to be.
http://www.nhpconsulting.ca/blog/becoming-a-licensed-producer-of-medical-marijuana-in-canada/

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