trump oddly refusing to implement bipartisan russia sanctions

Flowki said:

The violent clashing of cultures/officials needed no help with hatred. Do you recall people protested (including violently) against a democratic vote and that was suppose to be Americas ''sane'' citizens.

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So now you're saying that the people are divided...
Impeccable timing on admitting that.

Flowki said:

What was the perceived choice again?. Vote Hillary and deal with more of the same ( at worse being poor in a top 5 country) or vote trump and all die.

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Or lose faith in the system to represent the people. In other words, the ambitions of the gov't are not inline with the common sentiments of the electorate. Funny how you adopt my premises as if they were yours all along when I point out how asinine yours were.

Flowki said:

No, it gets directly to the heart of why America deserve trump. They were given a choice but they downed tools and now complain about the self fulfilled prophecy of doom (that he may or may not become). Remember a % of the ''sane'' citizens protested against that democratic vote.. if he was worth that absurd display yet enough ''sane'' people didn't vote to stop him then yup, trump they deserve.

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You've just moved the goalposts here bruh. At first you were arguing that the ambitions of the gov't are inline with the common sentiments of the people, even though he lost the popular vote in an election with terribly poor voter turnout and now you're saying we deserve him. You're saying that antifascist protesters deserve to be assaulted by racists. You're saying that Dreamers, children who only know the US as home, deserve to be deported. You're admitting from one side of your mouth that my argument was correct and that the country is not united in support of him (not even a majority supports him) while on the other side of your face you are still insisting that we chose him. You need to organize your thoughts if you can't handle being insulted for a lack of intellect.

Flowki said:

I don't condemn all Americans. But, a large amount are heavily indoctrinated, have a very desensitized acute perspective and self awareness of actions/impact. Again 3L vehicles culturally acceptable is why ok?. Huge food portions, knowing the implications of cow meat etc etc, still culturally acceptable.

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Not even a majority. You're throwing out the baby with the bathwater. You must think that nobody in your country burns fossil fuels or eats burgers. I guess you deserve a fascist president too.

Flowki said:

You keep using personal insults. Telling.

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Your posts are insulting. You come in and paint all of us with the same brush and I simply return the favor in kind, dumb ass.

Flowki said:

I don't know why you feel the need to tell me you've traveled.

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You must have forgotten the last line of your previous post. Organize your thoughts and maybe you will also form stronger arguments.

Flowki said:

Trump has done more traveling than you so that must mean he knows more than you.

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I doubt he has ver been outside of his comfort zone and immersed into other cultures, but even if he has, it still does not follow. He very well has traveled more than his average supporter. The demagogue can be better informed than his followers, which is to say that your argument has fallen flat again. I am better informed than you are and therefore I am smarter than you are.

Flowki said:

I am simply pointing out the hypocrisy and deluded haters of a man most citizens are no better than.

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Most of us do not support him, which is easily verifiable so you're the one who is deluded.

Fogdog said:

Pay now or pay a lot more later.

You Republicans sure do live it up by borrowing.

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If intelligence is flight, free will is gravity. We will pay now and a lot more later.

I don't sit on any point of any political scale, it's limiting.

Flowki said:

If intelligence is flight, free will is gravity. We will pay now and a lot more later.

I don't sit on any point of any political scale, it's limiting.

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Nice word salad. I think the reason you don't have a perspective of your own is that you're misinformed.

Agree to disagree I always say.

Stink Bug said:

Agree to disagree I always say.

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no one can stop you from brainwashing yourself with delusional youtube conspiracy theory videos, princess.

Stink Bug said:

http://www.nyu.edu/classes/tuckerman/adv.chem/lectures/lecture_2/node4.html

The sustainable cycle, hmmm...which came first, the heat or the co2?

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Care to explain why you posted a link to a description of conservation of energy? The second line: "In a closed system, i.e., a system that isolated from its surroundings, the total energy of the system is conserved." is where you go off the rails in a discussion regarding global warming.

The earth is not a closed system. Energy is constantly being added to the earth by the sun. Equilibrium is achieved when the amount added is equal to the amount radiated away. The rapid introduction of carbon dioxide and methane from fossil fuels has created an imbalance. The system hasn't fully stabilized yet. Meanwhile we continue to add more carbon dioxide.

Because the system is dynamic and not stable you do see apparent contradictions like carbon coming from warming. That is happening because a steady state hasn't yet been reached. Mankind kicked the system into rapid heat rise by adding carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and the system hasn't stabilized yet.

If you want to see where we are headed, read up on the die offs at the end of the Cretacious and at the end of the Permian periods. Sources of greenhouse gasses were different but the effects are the same.

Stink Bug said:

Agree to disagree I always say.

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We may disagree about conclusions but facts? No. Where you disagree with practically everybody else is on the facts. We can't agree to disagree about facts.

Flowki said:

If intelligence is flight, free will is gravity. We will pay now and a lot more later.

I don't sit on any point of any political scale, it's limiting.

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That made absolutely no sense.

How about Jeff Sessions? Loving that Trump for appointing him?

Yeah the universe is a closed system. Ever expanding but still closed. Dark matter is a bit of a head scratcher though...

Stink Bug said:

Yeah the universe is a closed system. Ever expanding but still closed. Dark matter is a bit of a head scratcher though...

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You believe scientists when they talk of dark matter but deny scientists who painstakingly explain their work that convincingly shows that humans are causing global warming. Confirmation bias.

Serious Weeds said:

Ok so that means what? That they ( people living in Russia) are happy their country is not getting more sanctions. Lol who could have guessed that.

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That means US Tax dollars supplying Russian Oil to China, comrade.

Remember how Tillerson sold Iraq Oil to china for $2 per bbl, (we, the US are still paying for that transaction)

Russian sanctions,pfft. China will find a workaround.

Imagine … if the oil giant is freed to produce and sell oil on the staggering 63.7 million acres of Russian land it leases, which is over 5 times the amount of land it leases in this country. Happy days are here again, for Exxon.”

Andrewk420 said:

In that dudes defense, Hillary was a terrible candidate. I'm only 30, but she was the worst presidential candidate on any ballot of my life. Not because she's a woman, not because of benghazi, not because she's a Clinton. Because she was tone def to the US. The US is more than Cali and New York and DC. She got out worked by Trump in key states. While Trump was lying to "common folk" about looking out for their best interest, Clinton was acting holier than thou and ignoring them.

I already said it, I don't think Trump gets impeached or indicted. Mueller will get maybe Trump Jr to go along with the other toadies he's rounded up and will call it a win. Trump seems pretty bulletproof in court or he'd have been shot down by now.

None of that changes that this is borderline treasonous behavior, even in a vacuum.

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Son, take your word shits at the Kremlin where they are accepted with glee.

Fogdog said:

That made absolutely no sense.

How about Jeff Sessions? Loving that Trump for appointing him?

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No offense but it makes no sense because you lack wisdom.

Once again you deflect any wrong doing by yourself and others by propping up examples of trump (the fall guy) doing something worse in order to blanket out your own faults. What you are doing is entry entry level to understand in psychology. Take some fucking responsibility for at-least some actions. As said, protesting against trump on the day of a democratic election is an ABSURD ACTION BY A POPULACE THAT HAS LOST ITS MORAL COMPASS.

Flowki said:

No offense but it makes no sense because you lack wisdom.

Once again you deflect any wrong doing by yourself and others by propping up examples of trump (the fall guy) doing something worse in order to blanket out your own faults. What you are doing is entry entry level to understand in psychology. Take some fucking responsibility for at-least some actions. As said, protesting against trump on the day of a democratic election is an ABSURD ACTION BY A POPULACE THAT HAS LOST ITS MORAL COMPASS.

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in democratic elections the person with more votes wins.

you lack wisdom

This is why we can't have nice things. Why can't we be more like the britts?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/01/31/i-am-thoroughly-ashamed-british-lord-resigns-after-arriving-late-to-work/?utm_term=.b2598dce7eb8

Heil Tweetler said:

Son, take your word shits at the Kremlin where they are accepted with glee.

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I think I'd be shot dead if I tried to take anything to the Kremlin.

Great post though, way to contribute.

UncleBuck said:

in democratic elections the person with more votes wins.

you lack wisdom

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In a democratic Republic, in the United States' case at least, the person with more electoral college votes wins.

Obama and Bill Clinton were great at playing that game, Hillary forgot or something.

UncleBuck said:

in democratic elections the person with more votes wins.

you lack wisdom

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That is how it is suppose to work but does not, the uk democratic system is just as sinister for reference. Even on a proverbial revolt land slide victory, things inherently go back to being a dictatorship in democratic clothing. Democracy has always followed that cycle, like entropy. Opinions of open dictatorship aside.. that system runs more linear because the power over a citizens free will is absolute and isn't stolen in the night by fat career politicians. What system is better is purely subjective.

If elections truly came down to pure vote count more emphasis would be put on controlling media outlets and other under handed tactics, such as rigging the system and putting in pay barriers for the poor (they done that recently in uk). The internet is also losing it's freedom due to the social media monopoly's mixing with politics. The vanity of the avg person has them easily hooked on such platforms. Face book have openly admitted to psychological manipulation. It ultimately created a zombie nation that eat likes for brains. All that internet space and where do 90% of avg people go?. Face book, Instagram, you tube. Not by accident... and it serves a purpose that does not benefit us long term.

Andrewk420 said:

In a democratic Republic, in the United States' case at least, the person with more electoral college votes wins.

Obama and Bill Clinton were great at playing that game, Hillary forgot or something.

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i'm sorry, but nothing you said changes my response to flowki.

trump did not win in a democratic election.

Flowki said:

That is how it is suppose to work but does not, the uk democratic system is just as sinister for reference. Even on a proverbial revolt land slide victory, things inherently go back to being a dictatorship in democratic clothing. Democracy has always followed that cycle, like entropy. Opinions of open dictatorship aside.. that system runs more linear because the power over a citizens free will is absolute and isn't stolen in the night by fat career politicians. What system is better is purely subjective.

If elections truly came down to pure vote count more emphasis would be put on controlling media outlets and other under handed tactics, such as rigging the system and putting in pay barriers for the poor (they done that recently in uk). The internet is also losing it's freedom due to the social media monopoly's mixing with politics. The vanity of the avg person has them easily hooked on such platforms. Face book have openly admitted to psychological manipulation. It ultimately created a zombie nation that eat likes for brains. All that internet space and where do 90% of avg people go?. Face book, Instagram, you tube. Not by accident... and it serves a purpose that does not benefit us long term.

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shhhhhhhhhhhhhh

you were wrong, princess

abandonconflict said:

Nice word salad. I think the reason you don't have a perspective of your own is that you're misinformed.

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You come across as very intellectual but stop confusing that assumption with having the depth to talk properly with me. You don't.