Trump says Putin insulted by US election meddling claim

vostok

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President Vladimir Putin feels insulted by allegations of Russian interference in the 2016 US election,
Donald Trump has said after meeting him briefly at an Asia-Pacific summit in Vietnam.

"He said he absolutely did not meddle in our election," the US leader said.

Mr Trump, who defeated Democratic rival Hillary Clinton, said the allegations were a "Democratic hit job".

The US intelligence community concluded earlier that Russia had indeed tried to sway
the poll in favour of Mr Trump.

The US justice department has appointed special investigator Robert Mueller to
examine any possible collusion involving Mr Trump's team, and legal action has already
been taken against several former aides.

What are the allegations against Russia?

President Trump has refused to acknowledge a reported assessment by the CIA and other intelligence agencies that Russia was behind the hacking of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) in the run-up to last year's presidential election.


The contents of the emails, passed to Wikileaks and posted online, were embarrassing to the Democrats and shook up the presidential campaign, which ended in defeat for Hillary Clinton.

In addition to the Mueller inquiry, congressional committees have been set up to carry out their own investigations.

Relations between the US and Russia have been strained for years, with the Kremlin long accusing Washington of seeking to sway elections in Russia and other ex-Soviet states including Ukraine and Georgia.

While Russian hackers are widely suspected of involvement, there has been no conclusive link to the Kremlin.

Denying that Russia had tried to interfere last year by fostering contacts with Mr Trump's campaign, Mr Putin told reporters in Vietnam: "Everything about the so-called Russian dossier in the US is a manifestation of a continuing domestic political struggle."

What does Mr Trump say to the allegations?
He said he believed Mr Putin had been "very insulted by" the allegations and that was "not a good thing" for America.

"He [Putin] said he didn't meddle," he added. "I asked him again."

Asked if he believed Mr Putin, he replied, "He is very, very strong in the fact that he didn't do it. You have President Putin very strongly, vehemently says he has nothing to do with that. Now, you are not going to get into an argument, you are going to start talking about Syria and the Ukraine."

Trump out on a limb again
Aleem Maqbool, BBC News, Da Nang

Donald Trump once again goes against the findings of his own intelligence agencies.

Because although the US justice department is investigating the scale and nature of Russian interference in the election of 2016 (and any links to the Trump campaign), the American intelligence community has already long determined that Russia did, indeed, interfere.

Yet Mr Trump suggested this story was not only entirely fabricated by his political opponents, it might even be costing lives in Syria, because it is getting in the way of his relationship with the Russian president and hampering their ability to help solve the conflict together.

"People will die because of it, and it's a pure hit job, and it's artificially induced and that's a shame," he said.

It is hard to know what the president hopes to achieve with this type of rhetoric. The investigation goes on.


How did the two presidents get on in Vietnam?
Mr Trump and Mr Putin met for the first time in July at a G20 summit in the German city of Hamburg. In Da Nang they were seen chatting briefly on three occasions within 24 hours during the Asia-Pacific Economic Co-operation (Apec) summit.

However, they had no formal bilateral meeting, with Mr Putin blaming it on scheduling and protocol.

Mr Putin said he regretted that his talks with Mr Trump were too brief

They had warm words for each other, with the US president talking of their mutual "very good feeling" and the Russian leader describing his counterpart as "well-mannered... and comfortable to deal with".

They did manage to sign off a statement vowing to continue the battle against so-called Islamic State in Syria until the militants are defeated and calling for a political solution to the conflict.

How far has US justice department investigation progressed?
Last month, former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to having lied to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) about the timing of meetings with alleged go-betweens for Russia.

He testified that Russian nationals had contacted him in an attempt to gain influence with the Trump campaign, offering "dirt" in the form of "thousands of emails" on Mrs Clinton in April 2016 - two months before the DNC emails were leaked.

Mr Trump has played down the importance of Mr Papadopoulos, calling him a "low-level volunteer" and "liar".

On Saturday, Mr Putin brushed aside US media reports that a woman wrongly identified by Mr Papadopoulos as the Russian president's niece had offered to help broker meetings with Kremlin officials.

"I do not know anything about it and I think it is just some fantasies," Mr Putin said.

Mr Trump's former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, and an associate were also placed under house arrest on charges of money laundering as a result of the Mueller inquiry, but the charges do not relate to the election.

(http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41954436)
 
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schuylaar

Well-Known Member

President Vladimir Putin feels insulted by allegations of Russian interference in the 2016 US election,
Donald Trump has said after meeting him briefly at an Asia-Pacific summit in Vietnam.

"He said he absolutely did not meddle in our election," the US leader said.

Mr Trump, who defeated Democratic rival Hillary Clinton, said the allegations were a "Democratic hit job".

The US intelligence community concluded earlier that Russia had indeed tried to sway
the poll in favour of Mr Trump.

The US justice department has appointed special investigator Robert Mueller to
examine any possible collusion involving Mr Trump's team, and legal action has already
been taken against several former aides.

What are the allegations against Russia?

President Trump has refused to acknowledge a reported assessment by the CIA and other intelligence agencies that Russia was behind the hacking of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) in the run-up to last year's presidential election.


The contents of the emails, passed to Wikileaks and posted online, were embarrassing to the Democrats and shook up the presidential campaign, which ended in defeat for Hillary Clinton.

In addition to the Mueller inquiry, congressional committees have been set up to carry out their own investigations.

Relations between the US and Russia have been strained for years, with the Kremlin long accusing Washington of seeking to sway elections in Russia and other ex-Soviet states including Ukraine and Georgia.

While Russian hackers are widely suspected of involvement, there has been no conclusive link to the Kremlin.

Denying that Russia had tried to interfere last year by fostering contacts with Mr Trump's campaign, Mr Putin told reporters in Vietnam: "Everything about the so-called Russian dossier in the US is a manifestation of a continuing domestic political struggle."

What does Mr Trump say to the allegations?
He said he believed Mr Putin had been "very insulted by" the allegations and that was "not a good thing" for America.

"He [Putin] said he didn't meddle," he added. "I asked him again."

Asked if he believed Mr Putin, he replied, "He is very, very strong in the fact that he didn't do it. You have President Putin very strongly, vehemently says he has nothing to do with that. Now, you are not going to get into an argument, you are going to start talking about Syria and the Ukraine."

Trump out on a limb again
Aleem Maqbool, BBC News, Da Nang

Donald Trump once again goes against the findings of his own intelligence agencies.

Because although the US justice department is investigating the scale and nature of Russian interference in the election of 2016 (and any links to the Trump campaign), the American intelligence community has already long determined that Russia did, indeed, interfere.

Yet Mr Trump suggested this story was not only entirely fabricated by his political opponents, it might even be costing lives in Syria, because it is getting in the way of his relationship with the Russian president and hampering their ability to help solve the conflict together.

"People will die because of it, and it's a pure hit job, and it's artificially induced and that's a shame," he said.

It is hard to know what the president hopes to achieve with this type of rhetoric. The investigation goes on.


How did the two presidents get on in Vietnam?
Mr Trump and Mr Putin met for the first time in July at a G20 summit in the German city of Hamburg. In Da Nang they were seen chatting briefly on three occasions within 24 hours during the Asia-Pacific Economic Co-operation (Apec) summit.

However, they had no formal bilateral meeting, with Mr Putin blaming it on scheduling and protocol.

Mr Putin said he regretted that his talks with Mr Trump were too brief

They had warm words for each other, with the US president talking of their mutual "very good feeling" and the Russian leader describing his counterpart as "well-mannered... and comfortable to deal with".

They did manage to sign off a statement vowing to continue the battle against so-called Islamic State in Syria until the militants are defeated and calling for a political solution to the conflict.

How far has US justice department investigation progressed?
Last month, former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to having lied to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) about the timing of meetings with alleged go-betweens for Russia.

He testified that Russian nationals had contacted him in an attempt to gain influence with the Trump campaign, offering "dirt" in the form of "thousands of emails" on Mrs Clinton in April 2016 - two months before the DNC emails were leaked.

Mr Trump has played down the importance of Mr Papadopoulos, calling him a "low-level volunteer" and "liar".

On Saturday, Mr Putin brushed aside US media reports that a woman wrongly identified by Mr Papadopoulos as the Russian president's niece had offered to help broker meetings with Kremlin officials.

"I do not know anything about it and I think it is just some fantasies," Mr Putin said.

Mr Trump's former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, and an associate were also placed under house arrest on charges of money laundering as a result of the Mueller inquiry, but the charges do not relate to the election.

(http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41954436)
trump and putin need to get a room already.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
not at all
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The people of the USA aren't the government. It's not a democracy. We should not blame the actions of Trump's government on the people.

(https://www.vox.com/2015/3/2/8120063/american-democracy-doomed)
Great article.

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This petulant, childish bully is the greatest threat to our 'democracy' since the Civil War. He'll start another one the moment he thinks it will get him a buck or useful influence, the blood of millions be damned.

Must our system completely break down before we can muster the balls to fix it?

What would that breakdown look like? Each successive Presidency has been marked by ever more extreme maneuvering between ever more partisan political parties with ever more rigidly held ideologies.

We are no longer the greatest nation on Earth; merely the most belligerent. Any day now, we will no longer have the largest economy. We are fast squandering the worldwide respect and admiration we once enjoyed, and these trends will bring untold consequences.

A black swan event could easily prove cataclysmic.
 

Justin-case

Well-Known Member
Some one has made a good model of a bot that retweets any tweet with, eat shit, in it. Showing exactly how effective an army of these things would be at spreading propaganda, eat shit bot @chug_soylent. Unfortunately, it landed me in Twitter jail, as I immediately tested it by telling Sean hannity to eat shit, sure as shit though, it works, there was a retweet within seconds.
 
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