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Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

Discussion in 'Advanced Marijuana Cultivation' started by Uncle Ben, Jan 17, 2009.

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    kkt3

    kkt3 Well-Known Member

    Hey Uncle Ben, I have some girls that I want to top to get 4 main colas. Problem is they are getting along with growth and they have around 8-9 nodes. Was hoping to get them planted outside today and top this evening. Is it still okay to top these girls above the 2nd true node? Here's a pic of a few of them.
     

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    BastardofBlasphemy

    BastardofBlasphemy Member

    I wouldn't mind some feedback. I'm growing 4 Cherry Bomb and decided to give this topping technique a try on 2 of them. I'm currently growing under lights not fit to grow so my overall growth is slow but all my plants will be going outside for good this coming weekend. After topping at the second node, both plants seemed to only split into two main colas(unless I did something wrong) so I went ahead and topped each apparent main cola a couple of weeks later. What I am loving is the spacing between the two main branches on each plant. Looks like there will be a ton of light let in to power the main colas. I'm excited to see how it turns out but am wondering if I should not have topped a second time. Thoughts? Last 2 pictures are of her sister which I did more traditional topping methods to.

    Soil is FFOF with dyna-gro foliage pro and pro-tek
     

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    budman111

    budman111 Well-Known Member

    [QUOTE="kkt3, post: 12594355, member: 700663" I want to top to get 4 main colas..[/QUOTE]
    That should have been done a long time age...
     
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    mr sunshine

    mr sunshine Well-Known Member

    I came up with a technique for 7 heads.. you just let it grow for a while then cut out the middle. Magic!
     
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    papajohn

    papajohn Active Member

    Ub what are you using commercially as a systemic broad spectrum "selective" herbicide? I've seen so much to choose from at my local depot today.
     
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    Uncle Ben

    Uncle Ben Well-Known Member

    Sure. This is your call depending on what you want the profile to end up with.
     
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    Uncle Ben

    Uncle Ben Well-Known Member

    What's the application, the target? Pretty hard to beat 41% glyphosate, BUT, it's not selective. Just "burned down the farm" rows, fence line, encroaching grass along the drive, around gardens, trees, you name it with 30 gals. of mix.

    Broad leaves - 2,4-D amine form but watch for ester drift regarding stuff you want to keep. Most likely you won't get any especially if it's cool. Grass control but with no broadleaves/dicots damage - Fusilade. Can spray it into ornamentals, rose garden, etc. where grass is growing, etc.
     
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    papajohn

    papajohn Active Member

    I have a 48% glyphosate which I also add ammonium sulfate including a 100 % sufactant to the mix,however my weeds only "yellow" but haven't seen that burn down effect thus far.

    I've heard good things about glyphosate,however I'm not sure if I'm tank mixing things right.BTW it's 50ml/gal I'm using,does the dosage limiting effectiveness?
     
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    GuerrillaGrow

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    Gly is normally always 41%. Mix it 2-3 ounces per gallon with water only, there is no need for AS and most gly already has a "sticker" in the mix. If not a drop or 2 of dawn dish soap per gallon does the trick. Gly doesn't burn down, it causes a slow systematic death over 2-3 weeks the warmer it is the faster it dies. And remember gly will kill almost everything except woody tissue aka trees. Keep it away from cherished plants lol.
     
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    Slab

    Slab Well-Known Member

    hi Uncle Ben!

    Using jacks pro 25-5-15 1/2 tsp per gallon every feeding.

    Wanted to know if I can add a tsp of azomite to the mix or should I be top dressing with it?


    Using a 5 gallon pot with 50/50 perlite and soil.
    I am in week 5 of flowering and she drinks a gallon every other day.
     
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    GardenGnome83

    GardenGnome83 Well-Known Member

    If you want more than 4 tops, cut only the new shoot. ONLY THE SHOOT! Leave the leaves intact. This gives 6-8 tops for me everytime!
     
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    papajohn

    papajohn Active Member

    Ub what's your secret for dark green foliage in calcareous soils?
     
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    Slab

    Slab Well-Known Member

    Upped the dosage of jacks to 1 tsp and 1 tbsp of azomite.

    Since my soil is not amended should I be feeding more less often? I am seeing deficientcy so I upped the dosage.
     
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    papajohn

    papajohn Active Member

    Why are you using azomite? You should be fine with jacks 25-5-15 at a tsp per gal only when additional greening is necessary
     
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    Slab

    Slab Well-Known Member

    i bought it to ammend some barren soil, didn't get it done and now applying within the feeding schedule.

    i couldn't get to tsp per gal without showing N tox any sooner than 5 weeks with jacks. The azomite gives me the boost in P I am hoping for.

    Thinking I should go higher than tsp per but would like to hear from you guys that have time using it,
     
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    Slipup420

    Slipup420 Member

    I figure out a way to get 100 tops naturally IMG3278.jpg
     
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    Slab

    Slab Well-Known Member

    You have ever gone above 164 tops? Some number I can't remember I reached and it wouldn't produce anymore shoots.
     
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    Slipup420

    Slipup420 Member

    Out door yes i think around 1000 tops per plant gallery_11738_4908_793870 (1).jpg
     
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    papajohn

    papajohn Active Member

    25-5-15 has sufficient p to take you through,overage used of p will create lockouts of n and micros which may induce premature leaf drop.
     
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    Slab

    Slab Well-Known Member

    I did grow its mom to very late bloom with no drop and fade just now at 9.5 week.s with a few leafs show def of P. But no lock out. With the the 1 tsp of pro per gallon recommendation. I am thinking I need to up the dose beyond 1 tsp. The ppms are super low at one tsp. And this specimen is extremely vigorous.

    I will stick with the 1 tsp don't want to get in the things way. Unless that fact that I have no other source of NPK would enable me to push the needle more
     
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