United States of Corporate America

st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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IMO, the #1 problem with this country for some time now has been the influence that corporate America has on our political system. It's no secret that large sums of money have been "donated" to many politicians over the years in exchange for favorable legislation, corporate welfare, government contracts, etc. Trump appears to be doubling down on this and appointing corporate executives directly to powerful cabinet positions.

Rex Tillerson, CEO of Exxon Mobil. Andrew Puzder, CEO of CKE Restaurants. Wilbur Ross, head of an investment firm. Linda McMahon, CEO of WWE. Steven Mnuchin, Goldman Sacks. Betsy Devos, Amway billionaire.

On top of the obvious business ties, he is tapping people to head important departments that will be looking to dismantle the very departments that they are appointed to. A climate change denier as the head of the EPA? An anti-public school billionaire to head the department of education? Someone who wants to scrap the minimum wage and automate everything as secretary of labor? The list goes on.

If it's not clear to you now what Trumps motives are, then you simply aren't paying attention. The only question that remains is will congressional democrats have the spine to oppose some of these picks, and will enough republicans join them to make it stick?
 
tampee

tampee

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At least we have change. LMAO

Yeah, certainly not the best president but Hillary wasn't going to do shit about global warming or big business. She was going to tax carbon which would only hurt the consumer and do nothing for the environment. How can anyone give a shit about the environment when they are sending explosives to ISIS?

Makes no sense that's why I voted for Johnson mostly so I could participate in the state election without voting for a piece of shit like Hillary or Trump.
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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UncleBuck said:
i'm honestly hoping the pubs choose the nuclear option for everything, ram everything through in record time, and inflict the maximum amount of suffering possible, especially on their own supporters.
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If the planet we live on wasn't about to get bent over and raped I'd maybe agree with you. I'm hoping for some pissed off republicans to join ranks with congressional democrats and block every fucking thing he tries to do.

It's been going on for the past 8 years, what's another 4?
 
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schuylaar

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tampee said:
At least we have change. LMAO

Yeah, certainly not the best president but Hillary wasn't going to do shit about global warming or big business. She was going to tax carbon which would only hurt the consumer and do nothing for the environment. How can anyone give a shit about the environment when they are sending explosives to ISIS?

Makes no sense that's why I voted for Johnson mostly so I could participate in the state election without voting for a piece of shit like Hillary or Trump.
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This is not the kind of change I'm looking for..are you?:

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Fogdog

Fogdog

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st0wandgrow said:
If the planet we live on wasn't about to get bent over and raped I'd maybe agree with you. I'm hoping for some pissed off republicans to join ranks with congressional democrats and block every fucking thing he tries to do.

It's been going on for the past 8 years, what's another 4?
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If you think the past 8 years were bad, Republicans in control of all three houses are going to show everybody what real rape looks like.

Edit: misread st0's intent earlier and unfairly flamed him. The current post is toned way done. 'pologies to st0.
 
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Blunted 4 lyfe

Blunted 4 lyfe

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st0wandgrow said:
IMO, the #1 problem with this country for some time now has been the influence that corporate America has on our political system. It's no secret that large sums of money have been "donated" to many politicians over the years in exchange for favorable legislation, corporate welfare, government contracts, etc. Trump appears to be doubling down on this and appointing corporate executives directly to powerful cabinet positions.

Rex Tillerson, CEO of Exxon Mobil. Andrew Puzder, CEO of CKE Restaurants. Wilbur Ross, head of an investment firm. Linda McMahon, CEO of WWE. Steven Mnuchin, Goldman Sacks. Betsy Devos, Amway billionaire.

On top of the obvious business ties, he is tapping people to head important departments that will be looking to dismantle the very departments that they are appointed to. A climate change denier as the head of the EPA? An anti-public school billionaire to head the department of education? Someone who wants to scrap the minimum wage and automate everything as secretary of labor? The list goes on.

If it's not clear to you now what Trumps motives are, then you simply aren't paying attention. The only question that remains is will congressional democrats have the spine to oppose some of these picks, and will enough republicans join them to make it stick?
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The biggest problem with the Democratic Party, imo, is that they break rank much quicker than the pukes. Sometimes when there's an up and down vote on major issues Dems are guaranteed to break rank, you don't see that happening in the pukes party as often that really frustrates me, let's just hope with the orange one in office they can unite behind the issues much like the pukes did when voting on repealing the ACA or further investigation of Benghazi.
 
Fogdog

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Blunted 4 lyfe said:
The biggest problem with the Democratic Party, imo, is that they break rank much quicker than the pukes. Sometimes when there's an up and down vote on major issues Dems are guaranteed to break rank, you don't see that happening in the pukes party as often that really frustrates me, let's just hope with the orange one in office they can unite behind the issues much like the pukes did when voting on repealing the ACA or further investigation of Benghazi.
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Voting was pretty solid along party lines the last election. There were three key states that switched sides in the last election -- unexpectedly so by the pundits who go by their opinion, not by pollsters as people like to say. The electoral college is biased towards minority states -- those with smaller populations, meaning rural states. That rust belt states broke to Trump's side only showed that they were not happy with Obama's corporate globalization economic policy. Also Clinton pretty much ignored them. For good reason, they aren't as populous nor are they as wealthy as the east and west coast urban communities. But also she ignored them to her detriment.

Just saying that it wasn't a matter of democrats breaking ranks so much as many independents in key states went to Trump where they went to Obama in the past two elections.

I wonder if it has sunk in yet to Rust Belt Repub-ocrats that they voted for the most extreme big business and globalization presidency of all time.

They got shagged.
 
Blunted 4 lyfe

Blunted 4 lyfe

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Fogdog said:
Voting was pretty solid along party lines the last election. There were three key states that switched sides in the last election -- unexpectedly so by the pundits who go by their opinion, not by pollsters as people like to say. The electoral college is biased towards minority states -- those with smaller populations, meaning rural states. That rust belt states broke to Trump's side only showed that they were not happy with Obama's corporate globalization economic policy. Also Clinton pretty much ignored them. For good reason, they aren't as populous nor are they as wealthy as the east and west coast urban communities. But also she ignored them to her detriment.

Just saying that it wasn't a matter of democrats breaking ranks so much as many independents in key states went to Trump where they went to Obama in the past two elections.

I wonder if it has sunk in yet to Rust Belt Repub-ocrats that they voted for the most extreme big business and globalization presidency of all time.

They got shagged.
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My bad, I should've made it clearer that what I meant was that Democrats often break rank during congressional votes.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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st0wandgrow said:
IMO, the #1 problem with this country for some time now has been the influence that corporate America has on our political system. It's no secret that large sums of money have been "donated" to many politicians over the years in exchange for favorable legislation, corporate welfare, government contracts, etc. Trump appears to be doubling down on this and appointing corporate executives directly to powerful cabinet positions.

Rex Tillerson, CEO of Exxon Mobil. Andrew Puzder, CEO of CKE Restaurants. Wilbur Ross, head of an investment firm. Linda McMahon, CEO of WWE. Steven Mnuchin, Goldman Sacks. Betsy Devos, Amway billionaire.

On top of the obvious business ties, he is tapping people to head important departments that will be looking to dismantle the very departments that they are appointed to. A climate change denier as the head of the EPA? An anti-public school billionaire to head the department of education? Someone who wants to scrap the minimum wage and automate everything as secretary of labor? The list goes on.

If it's not clear to you now what Trumps motives are, then you simply aren't paying attention. The only question that remains is will congressional democrats have the spine to oppose some of these picks, and will enough republicans join them to make it stick?
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This really feels like the scene in 1984 when the news one day conflicts with what was said only the day before. AND EVERYBODY WENT WITH IT.

Not too long ago, Trump was viewed as running against globalization. Nooooot anymooore.
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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Fogdog said:
If you think the past 8 years were bad, you are a candy ass who just didn't get all your way. The Republicans are going to show you what real rape looks like.
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Eh??

I think you read that wrong. What I meant was, the republicans have spent the last 8 years blocking EVERYTHING Obama has tried to do, so what's another 4 years of getting nothing accomplished in DC.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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st0wandgrow said:
Eh??

I think you read that wrong. What I meant was, the republicans have spent the last 8 years blocking EVERYTHING Obama has tried to do, so what's another 4 years of getting nothing accomplished in DC.
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awwww, your optimism is cute.

watch. nuclear option. 51 votes will do, for everything.
 
tampee

tampee

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st0wandgrow said:
Eh??

I think you read that wrong. What I meant was, the republicans have spent the last 8 years blocking EVERYTHING Obama has tried to do, so what's another 4 years of getting nothing accomplished in DC.
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But then again you won't have Obama to Veto anything the Republican controlled Congress does. But on the upside we can vote in Bernie Sanders in 4 years. :)
 
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