'United We Fall'

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A film by Bryan Law and Dan Dicks "United We Fall" is a documentary about the North American Union that is being developed right now between Canada, the United States, and Mexico. For years this topic has been debated in the news and in political circles as being a possible future for North America. In recent years, the mood has shifted and a rift is developing between those who want a Deeply Integrated North American Community, and those who wish to retain their national sovereignty. This film takes a look at both sides by interviewing both insiders and activists who have been at the heart of this heated debate. The film also looks to the broader agenda of building a world government and its implications. Featured Interviews: Robert Pastor (Council on Foreign Relations), Allan Gotlieb (Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg) Herbert Grubel (Creator of the "Amero") Luke Rudkowski (We Are Change) Dan Dicks (Press For Truth) Vijay Sarma (Political Activist, Independent Journalist) Dr. Andrew Moulden (Canadian Action Party) Richard Syrett (Talk Radio Host)

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Ohhhhkay.. just go to this(THAT ↓ ) link to see a page w/ the rest of the parts if interested. too lazy as of now to post the rest.. lol

http://pressfortruth.ca/news_dtls.php?rid=124&catid=1


Some wicked good reporting and 'nother greascent doc. from PFT! Help make go viral!!

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The first thing they will need to do to make any of this work is destroy the currencies.

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! Awesome and very intellegent and iformative piece. IN FLAMES WE TRUST!!! America will never learn. They were founded by a group of slave owners wanting to be free WTF???
I hate to say it this way but I have no sympathy for america what so ever. Sadly, Death To America IS DESERVING!!!

you dont get it do you? if "death to america" happens, kiss all our asses goodbye. all of this crap is perpetuated by bankers. bankers want complete control of every person on this world. and the sad thing is, we allow it to happen. life is getting more and more like the matrix every day. well good luck every body, happy 4th of july

In your opinion you believe the banker theory of control. Again, I would point back to religion, not bankers. Moreso, In the actually event of "Death to America" I dispute the fact that "everyone" would be kissing their ass' goodbye. It wouldnt surprise me that America would be the end of the world. I mean a country founded by a bunch of slave owners wanting to be free is not a good way to start a country at all.

Lastly, I am not american. Never have been, and never want to be. SO, HAPPY 4TH OF JULY. A day we pay rememberance to a bunch of slave owners a wanting to be free.
Control, we only allow it because we didnt know enough to prevent it back when "control" got moved from the peoples hands unto a gathered govermental body.
I think your banker theory does have some good points, but BANKERS VS. RELIGIOUS CONTROL........I just checked and YUP, THERE IS ALOT MORE RELIGIOUS PEOPLE, WITH ALOT MORE MONEY THAN BANKERS. Especially considering America HAS NO GOLD STANDARD, and Countries like ISRAEL, CANADA, ITALY ( ya know where the vatican is) ACTUALLY CONTROL THE GREATER MAJORITY OF THE GOLD IN THE WORLD. So, considering them having more money, and more potential for control I WOULD THINK that they have greater chance of having control in countries like USA....but they dont. Maybe thats cause bankers really dont control shit. If anything they want to with a really horrible sales pitch.

But, considering you may still believe that " i just dont get it"...i would again wonder who is the one that believes in religion? Who gets what? Does someone have all the awnsers and I am just misguided and misinformed,......I doubt that. I am not saying I am ALL RIGHT, by any means. I KNOW AND ACCEPT, that I could indeed have it all wrong. But considering history, and the teaching of education.....it is what it is!!! They are NOT teaching BANKER CONTROL in college, BUT RELIGIOUS CONTROL.

Now that I think of it, if they have so much control...why did they all just shit the bed and BEG AND BEG FOR A BAILOUT. BEG for money from THOSE WHO HAVE THE GREATER AMOUNT OF CONTROL? I cant imagine how much control bankers have when they need to get bailed out. What they need to do is get control of them selves and get out that criminal street called wall street. People are no longer clueless to the bullshit tactics of bankers. They are a dying breed. Certianly not on the list of fastest growing occupations, anywhere in the world.

The greatest trick the Devil ( Banker elite) ever pulled was to make everyone believe that he did not exist.

i know your not american, i can kind of gather that from your posts. but i can also gather that you think because there is more "religious people" then bankers that they "control" a lot more but this is flawed. but having more money then bankers? this is arguable, and may be true, but i promise you that the printers of the money is the one that control it. compare the IMF to the vatican and you will surely see that the IMF has a far greater grasp on this world then the vatican does.
if "religious people" had more control the banks would of been asking them for money and not the government. the govnt itself has no control of the money any way. its all smoke and mirrors. why not "beg" for money? we were stupid enough to give it to em. well not me the govnt...
and so what about slavery. we have human rights now, which is more then i can say for some other countries like mexico, china, etc.. slavery was as acceptable as owning a horse, its a different world now. this isn't the 18th, 19th centuries, catch up with the times.

NoDrama said:

The greatest trick the Devil ( Banker elite) ever pulled was to make everyone believe that he did not exist.

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very nice quote. coming from the usual suspects? love that movie.

NoDrama said:

The first thing they will need to do to make any of this work is destroy the currencies.

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...that mission is nearly complete.

Speaking of which I have a (real) 500 Trillion Dollar Zimbabwe note that is now a defunct currency. That's alot of zeros and it became absolutely worthless and is now a novelty that I use to illustrate to people the possibilties of currency collapse when it's backed by nothing. Sound familiar?

they will do that by some kind of "national disaster". then riots will soon break out, looting will be wide spread, if you can buy anything that hasnt been looted it will cost 10X as much. then they will claim a unification is needed and a new currency called the amero will save us all. this country is trillions in debt and only ignorant fools would continue on this path, unless of course there was some agenda behind it all.

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i know your not american, i can kind of gather that from your posts. but i can also gather that you think because there is more "religious people" then bankers that they "control" a lot more but this is flawed. but having more money then bankers? this is arguable, and may be true, but i promise you that the printers of the money is the one that control it. compare the IMF to the vatican and you will surely see that the IMF has a far greater grasp on this world then the vatican does.
if "religious people" had more control the banks would of been asking them for money and not the government. the govnt itself has no control of the money any way. its all smoke and mirrors. why not "beg" for money? we were stupid enough to give it to em. well not me the govnt...
and so what about slavery. we have human rights now, which is more then i can say for some other countries like mexico, china, etc.. slavery was as acceptable as owning a horse, its a different world now. this isn't the 18th, 19th centuries, catch up with the times.


very nice quote. coming from the usual suspects? love that movie.

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First, I just want to say that you have provided a very good argument. In the essence of bankers, I think that may relate to those who currently control the greater majority of the US Dollars in the world. Most of the dollars owned would be by the holders of the largest debt in the world, the American Debt.

I also want to add that I am not refering to "religious people", I am subjecting " Religious Control", while related, they are different subjects. The Indoctrination of Religious control has everything and everyone under Control.

I also would like to state that everyone is intitled to interpritation based on their own wisdom. Moreso, everyone has a opinion. In mine, I would not say that those who print the money control the money. The US government prints the US Dollar, when they become flat broke, or have to pay off their largest world debt, they are certianly not going to have the money to continue print curriencies. Certianly not going to be controling curriencies any longer. This is where the banker/printer theory is flawed, in my opinion.

To awnser another statement of yours, you stated that you "know I am not American". That statement is correct. However it is COMPLETELY irrellavant to our subject of discussion. My actual physical whereabouts have no relation at all to our discussions.

The reason the bankers asked their Government for a bail out is because it is not only the right thing to do, but the most logical ( a rare event on wall street, IMO). First, the government is liable, and has a very high interest in the sucess of bankers and wall street. Second, even if they were to ask the vatican, trust me, they would point the finger at the US Government without any thought into it. Similar to the dogma that Jews are stingy, Christians are just as so, IMO.

I dont really think it matters on this debate to comment on whether the government is stuid or smart for what it did. Human RIGHTS??? Please refer to my signature about that issue. I am caught up to the times. Slavery, of any kind, is not something to just say so what to. Humans are not horses. Whats not acceptable as owning a human as a horse, is having americans believe that they have been "freed" from slavery. No one has. Hence why there is a total loss of Human Rights. We only have Human Privelages in this world nowadays. Only the gullible believe in RIGHTS.

Id be happy to see a good debate be able to remain civil. Intellegence is the key to that happening in my opinion. We can have great debates while still maintaing the peace. Just takes wisdom to control ones self from offending. I think of all people, Americans ( who have the larges prison population in the WORLD) should have learned by now how to control ones self, otherwise, some one else will help you by controlling you for you.

Peace, Love and Happiness

the ignorance is thick in this thread

1. america was not the only country to have slaves (pretty much everyone did it)

2. we are not the same people

3. ":The reason the bankers asked their Government for a bail out is because it is not only the right thing to do, but the most logical ( a rare event on wall street, IMO)"



you have proven you know nothing about politics... you speak a lot of words but your not really saying anything, especially when it comes to the banker bailout?


your telling me tricking the nation with panic, fear, and false numbers was a GOOD, LOGICAL idea? 23.7 trillion dollars... gone, but it was a good idea according to you


you might want to research what goes on in the real world

the us government doesnt print the money (although it is granted to them in the constitution) it is the federal reserve, a bank independent from governance. each dollar the govnt gets from the bank it has to pay it back with interest, putting us in perpetual debt. it was designed this way. designed to fail. we will have a coming crisis, then be forced to change currencies, and soon the constitution will not matter because the united states will transform into something else.

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the us government doesnt print the money (although it is granted to them in the constitution) it is the federal reserve, a bank independent from governance. each dollar the govnt gets from the bank it has to pay it back with interest, putting us in perpetual debt. it was designed this way. designed to fail. we will have a coming crisis, then be forced to change currencies, and soon the constitution will not matter because the united states will transform into something else.

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Actually the US govt DOES print money, the Bureau of engraving and printing prints the dollars we use. But your correct, they are just printing it for the use of the Fed. Im sure you know this, but the Constitution does not give authority to the congress to create any money at all, but only to regulate the value of SILVER and GOLD. Only Silver and Gold are constitutionally a money.

it grants congress the power to coin and regulate money, not a bank which is what the fed reserve is. and although the b.e.p. is a government agency it is producing money for a independent government agency, the fed, that chargers the actual government that wants the money interest for every dollar it loans out, which in turn HAS to keep loaning more money, printing more money. this is all stupid. it would be like owning a restaurant and paying for what you eat. making a homebrew beer and paying your wife...i dunno, choose any metaphor like that.
this is all designed to be far fetched. the best way to control is to keep the masses mis guided and dumbed down so they dont ask questions.

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it grants congress the power to coin and regulate money, not a bank which is what the fed reserve is. and although the b.e.p. is a government agency it is producing money for a independent government agency, the fed, that chargers the actual government that wants the money interest for every dollar it loans out, which in turn HAS to keep loaning more money, printing more money. this is all stupid. it would be like owning a restaurant and paying for what you eat. making a homebrew beer and paying your wife...i dunno, choose any metaphor like that.
this is all designed to be far fetched. the best way to control is to keep the masses mis guided and dumbed down so they dont ask questions.

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the money creation process is so simple that the mind is repelled.