Vegan Organics Aka Veganics With Matt Rize

DonPetro

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Huh. I played in the NHL and am in great shape. 6'3" 225lbs. I don't think you'd consider me sickly or scrawny if you saw me. That's just a silly notion that all people that don't eat meat are unhealthy.
I had a feeling you had an athletic background st0w.

@sunni your eyes are magic...i had no idea you were so lovely.
 

cannakis

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vegan 5 years and strong, ya real sickly scrawny and pale


if youre against veganisim , than why come to a thread just to stir up and put down opinions that are not necessary and unwanted?
Haha well hey there pretty lady... I'm not saying I Am against "veganism" you can do whatever you want I Am just saying I disagree whole heartedly about it and I believe well Raised and Fed animals actually Is Beneficial and Healthy, for both Humans and Animals.

But Veganics is an Extraordinary idea... Specifically providing Cannabis for Individuals who Truly Are sick and ail in health, because you are providing a GOD Blessed Herb without Any toxins whatsoever to the very Food of the plant... Which in Turn provides even Truer Virtues for the individual.

Just like animals are healthy and beneficial for humans If their Food and environment is Healthy.
 

greasemonkeymann

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Huh. I played in the NHL and am in great shape. 6'3" 225lbs. I don't think you'd consider me sickly or scrawny if you saw me. That's just a silly notion that all people that don't eat meat are unhealthy.
Damn, now that's a big monkey!
From your pic you look a lil shorter and somewhat hairy.. :mrgreen:
Got me beat, i'm 6'4" but a scrawny 200lbs.
Actually my "fightin" weight is 190
Hmm, this thread is totally off topic, after slumbering for months.
Here lets try to get back on track.
Gluetrap chopped at day 63 grown all organically and veganically! Whoever says you need bottles and animal byproducts to pack on weight is wroooong (=
Dude that's a beautiful set of flowers, GREAT job, i'm dying to know what you used for phosphorus.
I just can't stop using my fish bone meal...
 

Midwest Weedist

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Damn, now that's a big monkey!
From your pic you look a lil shorter and somewhat hairy.. :mrgreen:
Got me beat, i'm 6'4" but a scrawny 200lbs.
Actually my "fightin" weight is 190
Hmm, this thread is totally off topic, after slumbering for months.
Here lets try to get back on track.

Dude that's a beautiful set of flowers, GREAT job, i'm dying to know what you used for phosphorus.
I just can't stop using my fish bone meal...
Jeez you guys make me feel like a freaking twig, AND I EAT MEAT! I'm 6'3" and 140lbs with clothes, on a good day.
Thank you! My soil mix is pretty simple: Basemix - Cococoir, rice hulls / black lava rock, screened castings, screened compost. After that it's just Kelp meal, alfalfa meal, azomite, karanja/neem meal, screened rotten wood chunks from a local protected wooded area, and some native soil heavy in clay. I don't even mix my amendments in very heavily either.
I water with feeder fish pond water and once a month-ish I add some unsulphured bsm. My key ingredient, imo, is kelp tea. I use coots rehydrated method so I always have some ready in my fridge to mix up whenever I need it. I've pretty much cut out everything of my watering schedule but kelp, bsm, young coconut water, and casting tea. Though I'm going to try implementing sunflower sprouts into my recipe to see if I can knock some overhead off and use ssts more again. Even aloe I only foliar with unless Im transplanting. I made some pretty heavy aacts a few times this last grow to compensate for some negligence, but other than that I've been stripping stuff away to keep it simple and cheap.
 

cannakis

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Jeez you guys make me feel like a freaking twig, AND I EAT MEAT! I'm 6'3" and 140lbs with clothes, on a good day.
Thank you! My soil mix is pretty simple: Basemix - Cococoir, rice hulls / black lava rock, screened castings, screened compost. After that it's just Kelp meal, alfalfa meal, azomite, karanja/neem meal, screened rotten wood chunks from a local protected wooded area, and some native soil heavy in clay. I don't even mix my amendments in very heavily either.
I water with feeder fish pond water and once a month-ish I add some unsulphured bsm. My key ingredient, imo, is kelp tea. I use coots rehydrated method so I always have some ready in my fridge to mix up whenever I need it. I've pretty much cut out everything of my watering schedule but kelp, bsm, young coconut water, and casting tea. Though I'm going to try implementing sunflower sprouts into my recipe to see if I can knock some overhead off and use ssts more again. Even aloe I only foliar with unless Im transplanting. I made some pretty heavy aacts a few times this last grow to compensate for some negligence, but other than that I've been stripping stuff away to keep it simple and cheap.
Hahaha I stand corrected... @stowandgrow i didn't know you played in nhl!?! That's pretty awesome... What team?
 

greasemonkeymann

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Jeez you guys make me feel like a freaking twig, AND I EAT MEAT! I'm 6'3" and 140lbs with clothes, on a good day.
Thank you! My soil mix is pretty simple: Basemix - Cococoir, rice hulls / black lava rock, screened castings, screened compost. After that it's just Kelp meal, alfalfa meal, azomite, karanja/neem meal, screened rotten wood chunks from a local protected wooded area, and some native soil heavy in clay. I don't even mix my amendments in very heavily either.
I water with feeder fish pond water and once a month-ish I add some unsulphured bsm. My key ingredient, imo, is kelp tea. I use coots rehydrated method so I always have some ready in my fridge to mix up whenever I need it. I've pretty much cut out everything of my watering schedule but kelp, bsm, young coconut water, and casting tea. Though I'm going to try implementing sunflower sprouts into my recipe to see if I can knock some overhead off and use ssts more again. Even aloe I only foliar with unless Im transplanting. I made some pretty heavy aacts a few times this last grow to compensate for some negligence, but other than that I've been stripping stuff away to keep it simple and cheap.
I sure as hell can't knock anything you are doing, but maybe try to cultivate some comfrey and nettles, I bet they'd be helpful in that regard.
I have been contemplating a grow using just my compost, aeration and comfrey.
But even that isn't vegan, not even close..
got crab and shrimp meal, insect mashings, fish bone meal, fish meal...
Ummm I uh.. even threw four very dead mice that I got in there...
Stupid little fuckers kept messing with my food, and shitting on my eating utensils, I tried the non-lethal traps but these redwood mice are too damn big, plus they keep coming back..
I live in a lil cabin type thing and those bastard-mice crawl up the outside walls of my house and eat holes through my screen to steal my food!
And my 50 lb pitbull does nothing but THIS. (see pics)
 

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Midwest Weedist

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I sure as hell can't knock anything you are doing, but maybe try to cultivate some comfrey and nettles, I bet they'd be helpful in that regard.
I have been contemplating a grow using just my compost, aeration and comfrey.
But even that isn't vegan, not even close..
got crab and shrimp meal, insect mashings, fish bone meal, fish meal...
Ummm I uh.. even threw four very dead mice that I got in there...
Stupid little fuckers kept messing with my food, and shitting on my eating utensils, I tried the non-lethal traps but these redwood mice are too damn big, plus they keep coming back..
I live in a lil cabin type thing and those bastard-mice crawl up the outside walls of my house and eat holes through my screen to steal my food!
And my 50 lb pitbull does nothing but THIS. (see pics)
Already on it! I've got some comfrey propagating as well as a couple of cover crops that would probably considered dynamic accumulators. As soon as my veggies in one of my beds are done I'll transplant my accumulators into it so I have a plethora to harvest next year for a massive soil mix I plan on mixing up.
If it's been composted, is it still considered an animal byproduct? I've always been unclear on the specific definitions of such things.
Sounds like you've got your hands full with those little bastards, never been a fan of mice. You should invest in a cat, they're usually great at killing anything smaller than themselves.
I'd bet that if you had enough soil mass you could get a good harvest from that mix. I've kept plants alive in vermicompost / screened wood compost for almost two months with just water and aloe. (Vermi)Compost is king! If the stuff wasn't so clumpy and hydrophobic when dry I'd use it, my amendments, and just enough aeration to prevent compaction.
 

Midwest Weedist

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I think wood ash is a good source of phos. I also use phosphoric acid to lower the pH of my tap water. It also turns out that avocadoes require periodic phosphoric acid waterings to deter bad root issues!
I use the ash from my spent bud from my pieces in my garden, it's never very much but I imagine it's still a great source.
 

greasemonkeymann

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I use the ash from my spent bud from my pieces in my garden, it's never very much but I imagine it's still a great source.
you know that's ironic, I was pondering that same thing when I dumped my ashtray out yesterday.
I knoe technically it's the "hardwood" ash you want, but I can'i imagine cannabis ashes hurting anything.
Weird though, I've been growing for yrs and yrs and NEVER crossed my mind to use cannabis ashes in my soil.
Until yesterday
oh and I hear ya on the cat...
but we have owls, bobcats, cougars (not the sexy older MILF type either), and an un-fixed german shepard that is near my cabin...
soooo.. yea... a kitty will be merely food.
And keeping it inside is just cruel considering...
annnnnnd I hate litterboxes.....
 
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greasemonkeymann

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Already on it! I've got some comfrey propagating as well as a couple of cover crops that would probably considered dynamic accumulators. As soon as my veggies in one of my beds are done I'll transplant my accumulators into it so I have a plethora to harvest next year for a massive soil mix I plan on mixing up.
If it's been composted, is it still considered an animal byproduct? I've always been unclear on the specific definitions of such things.
Sounds like you've got your hands full with those little bastards, never been a fan of mice. You should invest in a cat, they're usually great at killing anything smaller than themselves.
I'd bet that if you had enough soil mass you could get a good harvest from that mix. I've kept plants alive in vermicompost / screened wood compost for almost two months with just water and aloe. (Vermi)Compost is king! If the stuff wasn't so clumpy and hydrophobic when dry I'd use it, my amendments, and just enough aeration to prevent compaction.
hell I germinate my seeds in pure compost.
Only reason I did that is because I kept seeing avocado seeds germinate in my compost pile, and I swear I have a hard-ass time to germinate avocados for some reason.
Finally got one to actually take and now I have an 18inch avocado tree.. errrr plant.
All my Bodhi seeds I popped in pure compost, and then stuck em in party cups with just compost and volcanic rock. They shot off way faster than a seed-starter mix
 

greasemonkeymann

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I put it all in my compost and the worms seem to be very happy and reproductive :)

@sunni - He is a lucky man!
so true man, I really think my compost pile has more reds in it than my wormbin.
Course it's a big-ass pile, but still.
I scrape away a quarter inch off the top of the compost pile and there are redworms EVERYWHERE.
I don't feed them either, they just eat rootballs and the leaves/amendments I have in there.
off topic, those hash pics are cool looking, i'm just trippin on the cool effect of the water coming out, nice camera.
 

Midwest Weedist

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Hash pictures (Matt made this possible):















Holy Smoke Mulanje Gold Landrace Sativa - best hash I have ever enjoyed :)


Cheers,
Mo
Is that a Matt Ryze method? Btw, FUCK that looks like good hash.

you know that's ironic, I was pondering that same thing when I dumped my ashtray out yesterday.
I knoe technically it's the "hardwood" ash you want, but I can'i imagine cannabis ashes hurting anything.
Weird though, I've been growing for yrs and yrs and NEVER crossed my mind to use cannabis ashes in my soil.
Until yesterday
oh and I hear ya on the cat...
but we have owls, bobcats, cougars (not the sexy older MILF type either), and an un-fixed german shepard that is near my cabin...
soooo.. yea... a kitty will be merely food.
And keeping it inside is just cruel considering...
annnnnnd I hate litterboxes.....
My thought was that if anything at least it would give it some carbon.
hahaha yeah definitely not a cat friendly home. Not in the slightest. I really hate the litter box situation but it's less of a hassle than letting a dog or dogs out multiple times a day, imo. I like that my cats pretty much take care of themselves.
 
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