Vert(600+400) 5 plant, from Ukraine with love

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ttystikk

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Our guys order spare parts in China and solder the LED, to save money. The result is amazing. As I said before, in many ways, the sodium lamp, even the best, is inferior to the LED! But in my growing method, LED will not work, because Shines a beam, and illuminates only a small area in front of him. I will get the result more than a minimum of 1.5 times on the sodium lamp now! But, in the future, I think to find a way out for the LED to shine in a circle!
LED works great for vertical grows. Simply adjust the shape of your trellis.
 

Sedan

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LED works great for vertical grows. Simply adjust the shape of your trellis.
Now, once again, we'll try to figure things out together!
This is not about the vertical method of cultivation, but specifically about the method of "Sphere". The way that I use.

We have two types of lighting: LED and Sodium lamp.

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There are four plants: A, B, C, D

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The sodium lamp (here everything is clear, all plants get evenly across the entire surface of 600 watt of light.)

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But with LED does not work all smoothly:


So (Only one plant receives 600 watt of light throughout the plane.)

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So (in this case, only the upper part gets a total volume of light of 600 Watts, the lower ones are much smaller.)

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Or so (if you divide the panel into four parts, you get 600/4 = 150 watts per plant or 4X600 = 2400 watts in total.)

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My conclusion is simple: LED in the form that it is not suitable for cultivating Sphere - the most productive way in terms of parameters: light / area / yield.
 

Sedan

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After a week of "ripen GHE" 0,5 ml / l, today began to wash with water. He poured 5 liters of PN 6.5 into a ten-liter pot. Let me remind you that the Dwarf auto stood 12/12 almost the entire cycle, so he did not get the full condition. Still, recently, the Oaks began to obscure it. But still, I think, I'll take 80 grams, which is the average result for this grade.

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And the main garden .. a small preview ...

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Sedan

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Nothing wrong with using LED for vert.
Just change the reflector in the way we do when we want to evenly distribute sound.....

Wow! What is it?))) Show how it works, is it interesting, is there in YouTube?
 

ANC

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Those are high quality speakers.
The bottom part is more for show, as low-frequency sound waves are much bigger than the speaker so harder to pinpoint.
Our ears are very good at finding the source of high frequencies, which is not ideal if you want all the sound to originate from one point.(the same point the bass and mids come from​
If you put a loudspeaker horizontal like usual, the tweeter makes a beam of good sound with bad zones outside of this... (almost like an LED or a car's headlights).
By putting the cone in front of it and firing upwards, the sound now radiates more asif it comes from a point source with no beaming.
 

Sedan

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Those are high quality speakers.
The bottom part is more for show, as low-frequency sound waves are much bigger than the speaker so harder to pinpoint.
Our ears are very good at finding the source of high frequencies, which is not ideal if you want all the sound to originate from one point.(the same point the bass and mids come from​
If you put a loudspeaker horizontal like usual, the tweeter makes a beam of good sound with bad zones outside of this... (almost like an LED or a car's headlights).
By putting the cone in front of it and firing upwards, the sound now radiates more asif it comes from a point source with no beaming.

Bro, very competent scientific calculations you have!

Bro, I see a diffuser audio speaker.))) And realized already logically that this is part of an expensive acoustic system. Although I did not see the current (I have an acoustics bose in my car))) I thought that you showed the LED lamp, converted from the speaker, and ready to use! I understand your concept, but, unfortunately, I do not understand in electronics. And I can not understand the principle of the operation of diodes. This requires funds and time, for experiments and experiments. I do not have no other then .......
 

ANC

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You don't have to know very much once you choose an LED.
People use premade drivers, that put out fixed current or voltage.
All diodes in a string run at the same current, so you can get a driver that puts out current at a good level for the diode, and then just divide the output voltage it can do by the forward voltage of LEDs to see how many you can string up.. There are good tutorials on youtube.

You are a good grower, I don;t think it will add to your yield. but will be cheaper to cool if you use air conditioning in the room.
 

Sedan

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You don't have to know very much once you choose an LED.
People use premade drivers, that put out fixed current or voltage.
All diodes in a string run at the same current, so you can get a driver that puts out current at a good level for the diode, and then just divide the output voltage it can do by the forward voltage of LEDs to see how many you can string up.. There are good tutorials on youtube.

Bro, I do not understand either in the electrician, or in electronics .... only I can guess a little. I have enough material to study and progress without it.))) I have a lot of friends in the former USSR who are just sick with LED. They are constantly with soldering irons and something to solder.))) They are not important as a matter of fact the garden, the main thing is to solicit that-niyuud such .., such as that said! I'll give them an idea, and I'll tell you what they think about your concept !!

And if we do something with you, it will be a fundamentally new solution for the VERT !!

Bro, on YouTube, that's what we know, and what they want to sell, and we need fresh solutions !! They can come only from us !! All that has already been invented, we know !! It remains only to leave your .. it is your mark in history-this is the goal of a true scientist!

You are a good grower, I don;t think it will add to your yield. but will be cheaper to cool if you use air conditioning in the room.

As we say: "Do not press on the sick callus"))) Just think: I now pay for the light about $ 100, I use 1500 watts. The weakest outdoor air conditioner consumes 1800 watts. How much do I have to pay a month, if the average salary is $ 200 for us)) Another rent, food, clothes, son, car, wife and cat Elsa))) Do you understand what I mean?))

The problem is that I can not realize myself in the face of a constant economic crisis! You do not understand this, but here it is the main problem for me. But I'm working now to get rid of the burden of need, the main thing is to move forward and only forward, no matter what!
 

ANC

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I actually thought of another way too, I'll have to try and draw it a bit later... You already have one half of the components installed for that.
 

ANC

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You already have a reflector at the top, make another at the bottom, each side has a LED pointing at the opposite side reflector. The tube's reflective sides prevent light being wasted.
 

Sedan

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I actually thought of another way too, I'll have to try and draw it a bit later... You already have one half of the components installed for that.
And it is right! I will also add something to the next cycle, which will increase the result and thereby lead to a new level! Protsto it so happened that over the past three years, that I am cultivating, my result is better and better! Naturally, I'm going ahead! Bro, and also, as the revolutionaries used to say): "When we are one, we are invincible." Fresh ideas from diametrically opposite sides will give an unprecedented result! Minus and minus-plus-do not forget it's math!)))
I liked your ideas too, Bro! You have a fresh head !!
 

ANC

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The metal top you have, make one for the bottom too. The hole can be smaller. hang a few CM above bottom fan, air can go around. 3 notches cut out for plant bases. In the centre of each hole place one LED or a cluster firing at the other side.

It will be nice and bright like the inside of a UFO.
 

ttystikk

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Now, once again, we'll try to figure things out together!
This is not about the vertical method of cultivation, but specifically about the method of "Sphere". The way that I use.

We have two types of lighting: LED and Sodium lamp.

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There are four plants: A, B, C, D

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The sodium lamp (here everything is clear, all plants get evenly across the entire surface of 600 watt of light.)

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But with LED does not work all smoothly:


So (Only one plant receives 600 watt of light throughout the plane.)

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So (in this case, only the upper part gets a total volume of light of 600 Watts, the lower ones are much smaller.)

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Or so (if you divide the panel into four parts, you get 600/4 = 150 watts per plant or 4X600 = 2400 watts in total.)

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My conclusion is simple: LED in the form that it is not suitable for cultivating Sphere - the most productive way in terms of parameters: light / area / yield.
Use LED to light vertical walls. Fits in square rooms better, too.
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