Vert Scrog Flooded Tube Banana OG, Dog Kush 1000w

jigfresh

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Hello everyone. My name is Jigfresh and I really enjoy growing marijuana. I also really enjoy RIU, it's where I go for many things and I want to say thanks to all of you reading this, because you are what makes RIU a cool place. I've been growing since I joined the site in early '09. Hydro has been my preferred method and Dutch Master nutes are the only ones I've used. This round I'll be growing an unknown number of plants with harvest due sometime around Dec 15. There is only room for 10 plants so it will be either 10 or less. I have some Dog Kush and Banana OG clones at the moment, and I will most likely be picking up some more plants soon. I have grown both Dog and Banana twice before and loved them both, hence the return trip.

The Dog Kush is from Breeders Boutique who sells their stuff on their own website, or on sea of seeds. It's a great yielding, easy growing, heavy hitting smoke. OG x Headband. Tastes and smells lovely. Kinda smells like dog shit, lol. Not where the name came from though. The Banana is a clone only deal. I'm sorry, I didn't make up the rules. It also yields nice and gets frosty as anything. The last batch I grew was insane. It has a really nice hybrid high, more indica leaning I guess. Smells like old banana peels.

My closet is in my bedroom. It's 2' x 3' and I use the whole height, something like 9'. I have a 30 gal rez on the floor (i never fill that high), a table to set things on and keep the grow & rez area separate, then there are 4" waste pipes wrapping around 3 walls with 2 levels. I got the idea from Heath Robinson and adapted for my little space. I have 5 plant sites per level. Last few grows I have used a 1000w hps mounted vertically in the center of the room (or close enough). It's cooled by a diy cooltube. There is a 6" 435 cfm fan mounted to the ceiling. The air goes strait out my roof into the air. Yeah... I cut a hole in my roof. Ha. One winter was bad, the rain was just pouring in. I fixed things eventually. This time I will be running the 1000w hps, and I'm thinking of running the 400w cmh at the same time. The hps on top, the cmh below.

Hmm, what else. I love scrogs. Love the control and it helps me manage a lot of plant matter in a small space. Ask me anything you want to know more about.

I will be talking about lots of things in this thread. Feel free to join in and share what's going on with you and your grow. I have met many wonderful people on here and would love to get to know you as well. So pull up a seat, be nice to the locals, and enjoy yourself.

We are going to grow some DANK!!!!!
 

jigfresh

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The plants are in a conventional DWC to grow their roots out a bit for the flooded tubes. Usually I have to do this for about a week to 10 days. This round it's taken over 4 weeks and continues. I can't tell you my frustration.

Here was the plants right after I got them
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And 2+ weeks later I think. They still haven't grown much. It's quite odd how much they have stayed the same.
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And here is about 4 weeks later, which was 2 days ago or something.
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bassman999

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Hey Jig!
I wonder why they arent growing this round?
I had a clone of GSC, that sat in the cup for 4 weeks and grew an extra 2". I threw her out, didnt know why she wouldnt grow.
 

wormdrive66

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Thats some BS man. I have had similar issues in the past and always chalked it up to root damage. I have a pre 98 bubba doing the same thing right now. 6 weeks old and not even 2 inches.
 

jigfresh

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It's crazy man, I never would have even guessed it possible. Apparently my buddy who I got them from is experiencing the same thing, but I still don't get it. One at least is spitting roots like I'm used to. There are 3 others that have some roots showing.

I'm off to bed, thanks for checking things out guys. Good to have you both back around.
 

DST

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maybe you have discovered a new disease similar to the one that nearly wiped out the Wine industry in the old world growing regions...it was called Phylloxera vastarix (had nothing to do with Asterix and Obelix btw!). These little bugs laid their young in the leaves of the plant. They would hatch, and each young bug could then lay hundreds of eggs for the next round. The leaves fall off and grow back. Plant fruits. The following year the plants production would reduce, with finally in the 3rd year the plant would basically die off at the root. This was a 3 year long cycle of killing. A very efficient bug.

The only way the old world wine was saved was that they brought roots from over in the US to Europe and grafted the European vines onto the American vine roots. So in essence, you could say that the US (along with the other Allies of course), saved France in the WWII and also saved it's Wine industry in the 1800's. Although if you look deeper, the French accuse a wine producer in France of working with US wine makers and importing Vines from the US back to France which they think was the initial cause of the outbreak (it was the same wine producer that came up with the grafting technique that save the industry as well).

I think the only wine producing area that does not have US roots is in Sicily, or some other Island. I'll clarify that. (it was Cyprus btw!!!)

Anyway, if you need some roots, let me know? lol.
 

cues

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Good luck.
Just to clarify, did you say the room was 2ft x 3 ft?
Sounds awful tight for a 1000w.
 

F.M.I.L.Y

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Sub'd up jig. I am sure you will figure it out. If not I can always get you some MD clippings. I got a mom vegging. I posted pics of her on the 600.

Peace

FM
 

mr west

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looking slow jig. Its like waiting for ever when ya used to 10 day rooting. I hate taking clones at the best of times. Subbed btw>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>:joint:
 

Dezracer

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Good luck.
Just to clarify, did you say the room was 2ft x 3 ft?
Sounds awful tight for a 1000w.
Stick around and you'll get to see what it looks like when full. What comes out of that closet with a 1000 is insane and the quality is always top notch.

I"m subbed up as well Jig.
 

genuity

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lurkin like always............cant wait to see it all full,i know them plants are about to kick in to over drive soon.
subd in.
 

DST

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don't hold your breath lad, Jig's cursed these clones I think, lol.

Come on little ones, get yer wiggle on!!!!
lurkin like always............cant wait to see it all full,i know them plants are about to kick in to over drive soon.
subd in.
 

jigfresh

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Good luck.
Just to clarify, did you say the room was 2ft x 3 ft?
Sounds awful tight for a 1000w.
Welcome welcome cues. It is indeed tight for all that light. I'm guessing you don't think I should add the 400 to the mix as well? To tell the truth I really wish I had gone with a 600, or even two 600's instead of the 1000w, but it's what I got now, so it's what i'm rolling with. I don't have to deal with heat too much as the fan is big for the space, and I live in the mountains where it stays pretty cool. Plus winter is coming!!! As for the actual light being too much, I have only bleached a couple little buds that got too close. The rest have been all good, tied back to the walls keeping them off the light.

I think you'll enjoy seeing what I do with all that light.

Anyway, if you need some roots, let me know? lol.
That would be a trick for sure. Grafting roots. Crazy what people do with plants. Sounds about right that the US is the savior... yet also the root cause lol. No pun intended but it sure works well, eh?

Sub'd up jig. I am sure you will figure it out. If not I can always get you some MD clippings. I got a mom vegging. I posted pics of her on the 600.
Thanks for the offer Fam. If time weren't an issue I'd take you up on it. I gotta get these things flipped in about 2 weeks. That plant is looking Boss. With a capital B. Shame about the outdoor screen man.

looking slow jig. Its like waiting for ever when ya used to 10 day rooting. I hate taking clones at the best of times. Subbed btw>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>:joint:
lol... I can't even say I hate taking clones cuz I've never done it. I still mooch of other growers. For being a pretty good grower, I sure don't know how to do much but get clones and make big buds from them.

subbed up jiggy! been too long since that cab was full ;)
Ain't that the truth Donny. Glad you are along for the ride.

Back in action huh? subbed.
I'm trying bro. I'm back in the game at least, not sure anything's in action yet, ha.

I"m subbed up as well Jig.
Thanks Dez. Appreciate the support.

lurkin like always............cant wait to see it all full,i know them plants are about to kick in to over drive soon.
subd in.
I'm hoping that's the case G. I know the place will be so full soon I'll be wishing I had less plants. It's just getting to that point that kinda sucks right now. Good to have a crew along to help.

don't hold your breath lad, Jig's cursed these clones I think, lol.
I can't think of what I done to deserve the wrath of the mj gods, but damned if I didn't piss in their tea. Maybe a forgiveness dance will rectify things.

Hey Jig!
I wonder why they arent growing this round?
I had a clone of GSC, that sat in the cup for 4 weeks and grew an extra 2". I threw her out, didnt know why she wouldnt grow.
It's already a bitch to toss a plant, but it really sucks when it's such good genetics. I heard that girl scout cookie was some serious smoke. Hope things settle down for a little while bro.

It's the Fucking Chem-trails man!!!! lol Nighty Night.
Lol brother. Damn chem trails got my shit all messed up. Did you know the government actually pays aliens to make those trails. And they are listening to dubstep while they do it.
 

jigfresh

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Things are looking a little bit up in the closet. There are root explosions going on with two of the plants. They grew something like 1/2 inch overnight. Stoked. Got at least a couple viable ones. I think they are both Dog... really want one Banana. I'm running out of smoke and would like to have more than one strain after harvest. I took a couple pics. The -- on the thermometer is the humidity reading. It goes down to 10%. We are below that right now.
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Also, here's some other stuff going on with me right now:
I've gone out to Arizona a couple times the past couple months to visit a buddy in prison. Really nice drive out there, lots of cacti. This one is probably 20 feet tall.
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This is Mama Cat. He, yes he, was very sick a couple weeks back and we didn't think he would make it. He has since recovered and because of all the love he got while ill, he is a changed cat. You couldn't much pet him before, and now he sleeps in our laps. It's crazy. Before he would come by for food, eat, then leave. Sometimes gone for months at a time. He won't leave our deck now. I guess we are stuck with him.
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This is super fun. Me and my wife are going through fertility issues. One step in the IUI we are doing now is me having to give my wife a shot. I don't like doing it very much, but oh well. You do what you gotta do I guess.
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And... I'm starting to play the sax again. Played in high school and loved it, but never had my own instrument. I still don't as I'm renting this, but I do enjoy playing still. I may get my own next year, we'll see.
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Lastly, there are no pictures for it, but I'm in two classes right now, so I'll be talking about them a bit. I have class later today, and I'm both looking forward to it, and dreading going. I want to get high and play video games!!!
 

Dezracer

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Mama Cat is a cool cat and you can tell has had a rough life thus far. Hopefully he continues to see how good he's got it with you guys so he can keep on living and loving.

You can't tell very good in the pic but he's tore from the floor up. All scarred on his head and that one ear was like that the whole time I was there. Nice kitty though and is already becoming trusting to humans. He let me get pretty close to him and didn't trip like I thought he was going to do. These things are a testament to the type of people Jig and the Mrs are.

@ Jig - You guys will make awesome parents when the time comes, no question.
 
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