Vertical growing with lm651c and UV, FR & PR in organic soil

Discussion in 'LED and other Lighting' started by psychedelicdaddi, Oct 10, 2017.

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    psychedelicdaddi

    psychedelicdaddi Well-Known Member

    Hey family,
    Advice is more than welcome here as I have never grown vertical but i made two 2'x4' ScrOGs and figured i should do some mad vert tricks. [​IMG]

    I'm starting with heavy yielding autoflowers; Mephisto genetics sourced directly from them. I picked a few of their sativa dominant strains and received some Hubbabubbasmelloscope freebies. I also have some homebrew strains that will find their way in next.

    So, Is there a pattern to the plant shaping? autos and photos


    Without further adieu, lets get started.

    These lights are just 20w of rigid 12v LED strips each. Seed starters. And if i need to later, supplemented lighting.
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    The bigger light will be hung horizontally but vertical facing. There is also another large light, only slightly more powerful than a QB. Not sure i need it for this first grow with the autos.
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    VegasWinner

    VegasWinner Well-Known Member

    Nice looks real interesting. Try out your qb style looks like good light.
     
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    psychedelicdaddi

    psychedelicdaddi Well-Known Member

    Can do:hump:
     
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    psychedelicdaddi

    psychedelicdaddi Well-Known Member

    plants are looking dandy
    big one is creme bubbly - mephisto
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    (using BT, fly paper is a bit old)
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    Hubbabubbasmelloscope (~1.5 weeks younger)
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    psychedelicdaddi

    psychedelicdaddi Well-Known Member

    LST into place while the branches are still pliable. I pulled everything outwards and/or forward. Almost at height of the screen, im supposed to expect a meter tall plant when all is said and done, lets see what happens.
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    I like the size of this light. I went and got 4 wavelengths of Uva diodes. I got 405nm, 390nm, 380nm, 365nm. They looked pretty good and were on CREE pcb. Theyre rated for 5w 350mA -1200mA. I'll power them at 600mA. I thinki want to slap them on the face of these TCI strip, i may ask on a thread in a few days to see if anyone has any thoughts. The TCI led strips are pretty heavy duty aluminum or copper but coated with an enamel. I am contemplating using thermal adhesive tape to line pcb starboard in between the rows of white leds.

    anyway, i got a number of cree xpe photo red and far red diodes too.


    Here's the tea delivered to Creme Bubbly:
    2ct half pint jars of spent mushroom substrate
    1T BT
    2T EMe
    2T molasses
    2T fish aminos
    2T fermented fruit extract tea
    2T azomite
    1.5 gallons water aerated for 2 days

    The creme bubbly is the large one. This smaller plant didn't get watered but only a few cups today.
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    psychedelicdaddi

    psychedelicdaddi Well-Known Member

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    reds (left) and UVs (right)
     
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    psychedelicdaddi

    psychedelicdaddi Well-Known Member

    Light is now vertical and about 12" from the canopy. Getting pretty nice penetration this way. Looks like maybe 24 hours until its at the first string.
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    added next photoperiod crop to veg out some.
     
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    psychedelicdaddi

    psychedelicdaddi Well-Known Member

    eh, much more stout than i imagined.
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    nc208

    nc208 Well-Known Member

    Looks good so far, what brand are the UV diodes?

    As to placement on the actual TCI strip I wouldn't. The extra Leds will just add more heat onto that pcb strip. I would add channels in between the TCI strips and attach them to that. That's what I did at least with my strips and Vero cobs. Here's a pic so you can see what I mean.
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    psychedelicdaddi

    psychedelicdaddi Well-Known Member

    ebay 5w chips on cree pcb. They could be cree semiconductors in there but i dont think they make a UV as short of a wavelength as 365nm.
     
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    psychedelicdaddi

    psychedelicdaddi Well-Known Member

    5w chips are to go to this panel instead. Its got a much heftier heat sink.
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    psychedelicdaddi

    psychedelicdaddi Well-Known Member

    had to cut the scrog off, it was doing more harm than help in such a short plant. If i had a vert scrog at the soil height, maybe itd have worked out. Anyway, cranking up the power on this panel after adding fans. Runs cool aF
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    Hubbabubbasmelloscope (yea it's kinda short!)
     
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    Dave455

    Dave455 Well-Known Member

    Nice penetration is the key !! To her heart also !!
     
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    psychedelicdaddi

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    next crop bushing up. THESE will be start of some vertical ScrOG-ing as soon as these autos allow room. I think they have another month left on them which should be goo for these girls. They were just transplanted into 7 gallon fabric pots from a 1 gallon plastic pot. They got fish aminos and banana kombucha last watering in the one gallon pots. I think theyre done being topped and im just tying them back for the next month to bush her up. Hope fully not a mistake. CIMG5493.JPG CIMG5494.JPG
     
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    psychedelicdaddi

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    hubbabubbasmelloscope
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    psychedelicdaddi

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    started stenciling the grow tent. would be easier layed flat :\
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    psychedelicdaddi

    psychedelicdaddi Well-Known Member

    hubbabubbasmelloscope is yellowing up a little. Day 52-58 thereabouts.
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    psychedelicdaddi

    psychedelicdaddi Well-Known Member

    Creme Bubbly is finally putting on some trichomes. Havent really had time to manicure her decayed leaves. Still pretty imo. I planted two more of these which have sprouted above the soil, one today and the other four days ago. They're in 5 gallon pots. This, 7 gallons.

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    Serva

    Serva Well-Known Member

    Looking good!

    May I ask you for a link to these slim fans you are using (#12)?
     

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