Week 8 Flower Still SMALL BUDS!!!!

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Niblixdark

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I haven't taken pics in awhile but when the room is back on tonight I'll get some pics snapped for you. Wish I had pics of a crop I did two grows ago that particular grow was super beast. Needless to say I will pop some photos up later on so you guys don't think am full of it lol. This cycle is at week 7 of a 9 but these girls might be done at day 60-65. 9th gen clones.

I DEFINITELY have nothing to prove and I just like to help people at this point in my life as I have gained a boat load of knowledge in the time I have been doing this and I learnt from a really really experienced grower who owns a hydroponics store locally a well, he's from BC originally, great guy !

Heck sometimes I don't believe it myself ! Lol there's nothing magic about it though guys it's just a matter of vegging and training for a long time it's really that simple. (Big roots)
 
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growingforfun

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MichiganMedGrower said:
I agree with @GroErr that the pic with the whole top with white hairs still has a good week to 10 days but I would only give fresh water to those plants for the last week. They have been way overfed and will get what they need from the medium and leaves now.

Nutrients don't "flush" out of buds. But they may taste harsh from the extra chlorophyll. And a good long dry and cure will go a long way to mellow it back out.

I like to harvest my plants with the leaves a nice medium healthy to lighter green. Sometimes easier said than done.
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I think he is doing dwc but maybe i missread something. I know that when i used to run dwc you can actually "proove" nutrients are being flushed from the plant by using R.O. (0-1) ppm water and using a ppm meter. After a day the ppm will read around 100 if i remeber my old numbers and around 200 in a few days.

This coupd be missremembered though, because it was several years ago since the soil switch. Found and foul memorys...
 
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Budley Doright

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Niblixdark said:
I haven't taken pics in awhile but when the room is back on tonight I'll get some pics snapped for you. Wish I had pics of a crop I did two grows ago that particular grow was super beast. Needless to say I will pop some photos up later on so you guys don't think am full of it lol. This cycle is at week 7 of a 9 but these girls might be done at day 60-65. 9th gen clones.

I DEFINITELY have nothing to prove and I just like to help people at this point in my life as I have gained a boat load of knowledge in the time I have been doing this and I learnt from a really really experienced grower who owns a hydroponics store locally a well, he's from BC originally, great guy !

Heck sometimes I don't believe it myself ! Lol there's nothing magic about it though guys it's just a matter of vegging and training for a long time it's really that simple. (Big roots)
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I don't think I've seen a 3lb plant grown indoors that's why I asked to see it, and yes a bit skepticle to be honest lol.
 
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Niblixdark

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Here are some other pics with different strains. I believe photo ending in number 1952 is the 3.3lber. although I can't remember jack lol I asked my buddy for the photos. He takes all the pics to store. I'll take pics of my new ones tonight. Sorry for thread hijack.
 

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Niblixdark

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Here some pics from tonight and I can't tell you the weight obviously but when it's done I will. I do have more pics on buddies PC I will look some other time but he has one of the most beastly ones out of a past grows. I can't fit the whole thing into a pic but you get the idea. Photos are 7th week.


My strains

Not all flowering but anyways.

Blue Dream
White Voodoo
White Cookies
Acapulco Gold
 

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Niblixdark

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Two grows ago one of my White Voodoo pheno clones yielded 3 lbs 3 oz most of the time I get around 2.5lbs to 2.8 dry almost 3 lbs dry each time! Thanks to Maui wowee genetics in the Voodoo. When I jar it, It takes less jars then any other stain to equal more weight. They are dense and heavy dried.

I am actually trying to reach 4lbs to break a personal record if I could, but who knows, probably need Co2, perhaps someday ! I will find the photo of that gem at my friends house when I can make it over he's computer illiterate lol

I will make a new thread on my next grow to show everyone how I do things. After this grow is over. I am in the middle of building another room atm for a 4k hydro room. A bit more space that I muchly need.

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growingforfun

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Niblixdark said:
I have been growing for a long time and can usually get over 3lbs per plant (dry) in RDWC 1000w each light with my genetics. (No Co2) With different genetics I can get vastly different numbers such as (1.58lbs vs 3lbs 3oz). (Real numbers). So my take on yeild is what genetics you use. Light plays an important role as well. As in 30 watts per square foot vs 50w. Finally how you train them and veg times also will effect yields. Then boosters/hormones lastly.
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Whats the best watts/sq ft in your opinion, and how far from a 1000watt hps to the canopy?
 
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Niblixdark

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I run 50 watts per every square foot, try too anyways. My lights are 12 inches from tops of plants, on sides, plants in middle get light from both lights a bit further away. I am using cool tube enclosures, no heat issues in my room. All dialed in. No bleaching effects on plant tissues. Just the odd tip burn sometimes from over zealous ppm increments that happen once and awhile. I should note to everyone not every strain can take intense light up close like this White Voodoo can.
 
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goldberg71b

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5x5 for 1000 = 40 watts/sf
4x4 for 600 = 37.5
You can go up to about 50 watts in my opinion but you have to be able to cool it! If you get to hot the extra is doing more harm than good. I've always found the temperature to be my limiting factor. Unless it's below 40 degrees outside. I'm doing some cooling! (every area I have has 2 lights minimum)
 
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Niblixdark

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5x5 for 1000 = 40 watts/sf
4x4 for 600 = 37.5
You can go up to about 50 watts in my opinion but you have to be able to cool it! If you get to hot the extra is doing more harm than good. I've always found the temperature to be my limiting factor. Unless it's below 40 degrees outside. I'm doing some cooling! (every area I have has 2 lights minimum)
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It's a bit easier to control for me when its winter for sure. Summer time it's AC from the central air.
 
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goldberg71b

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Niblixdark said:
It's a bit easier to control for me when its winter for sure. Summer time it's AC from the central air.
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I hear ya. But you still need fresh air. From end of June to mid September I tone it down. I barely use the heater it's a great perk! AC heats the basement and it rises. I can crack windows for fresh air and the upstairs areas provide the rest. As great as that is everything works against cooling. It all works out. I keep 2 light for flower. And 1 light for can't lose moms. Then everything else is in cuttings under a T5. I ran at 100% one summer. To many times my AC couldn't keep up. So I had to turn the lights down at times. It didn't help we had a multi week heat wave.
 
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Niblixdark

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goldberg71b said:
I hear ya. But you still need fresh air. From end of June to mid September I tone it down. I barely use the heater it's a great perk! AC heats the basement and it rises. I can crack windows for fresh air and the upstairs areas provide the rest. As great as that is everything works against cooling. It all works out. I keep 2 light for flower. And 1 light for can't lose moms. Then everything else is in cuttings under a T5. I ran at 100% one summer. To many times my AC couldn't keep up. So I had to turn the lights down at times. It didn't help we had a multi week heat wave.
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Sounds very similar to my setup except I use a 400mh for vegging or a 1000w MH for bigger girls. My AC is outside my house and does a good job at cooling. Fresh air that comes in is filtered by a carbon filter and another intake that has a 120mm fan on other side of room. Both ends of the room have intakes. Definitely helps with water temps too but not so much the electrical bill lol
 
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Niblixdark

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Here is an idea for everyone if you struggle with water temps in the summer.

This keeps my res always under 70 always mostly 65 to 68. Take your basic thermal cooler that uses a 60w electric pelt and cut out a square in your res and install this using a two part epoxy or a strong epoxy putty.
 

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Alaric

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Niblixdark said:
Two grows ago one of my White Voodoo pheno clones yielded 3 lbs 3 oz most of the time I get around 2.5lbs to 2.8 dry almost 3 lbs dry each time! Thanks to Maui wowee genetics in the Voodoo. When I jar it, It takes less jars then any other stain to equal more weight. They are dense and heavy dried.

I am actually trying to reach 4lbs to break a personal record if I could, but who knows, probably need Co2, perhaps someday ! I will find the photo of that gem at my friends house when I can make it over he's computer illiterate lol

I will make a new thread on my next grow to show everyone how I do things. After this grow is over. I am in the middle of building another room atm for a 4k hydro room. A bit more space that I muchly need.

Ps. I edit allot lol
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This is why its difficult for me to believe those yields from your pics (hope I'm wrong).

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Two 10' x 4' sections---each under three 1000w hps air cooled lights on a mover.

Yield was 24 zips per 1K-----now looking at those canopy pics-----to yield 3 lbs per 1K would be double the density in the same space.

Running 75 watts per square foot-----push-pull blowers for cooling. Lights are 16" above tippy tops supplying 10,000 foot candles (full sunlight intensity).

That is why I'm skeptical it can be done.

Hope you will document the steps you take for your next grow.

Stay safe,

A~~~
 
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Budley Doright

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Yes Nib please start a thread showing what your doing. I would have to agree with Alaric that it doesn't look like any 3lb plants in there but its pics so they could be deceiving ;). Don't want to take away from this thread though.
 
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Niblixdark

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Looks really well done Alaric ! Impressive
Nice setup too ! I wouldn't doubt about being skeptical as well ! Of course anyone would be on the Internet. But I have no reason to bullshit because I love growing and helping others. But I will start my own thread on the next grow. Happy growing !

And yes photos never do justice as what you can visually see is always much differently precieved through a camera. Guess the only way to prove it would be whitnesses like my two friends and girlfriend but I am not going that far lmao

It also seems to me you are pretty experienced and it shows. Your definitely on a whole different level of growing experience !
 
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Budley Doright

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Niblixdark said:
Here is an idea for everyone if you struggle with water temps in the summer.

This keeps my res always under 70 always mostly 65 to 68. Take your basic thermal cooler that uses a 60w electric pelt and cut out a square in your res and install this using a two part epoxy or a strong epoxy putty.
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How big is the res? I've heard they don't work well and a 60w is only 17 btu's. Very small amount of cooling unless it's a very small res. I would think. I'm in the process of turning a water cooler into a res cooler but still not expecting much, just curious to see if it does much.
 
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Niblixdark

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Budley Doright said:
How big is the res? I've heard they don't work well and a 60w is only 17 btu's. Very small amount of cooling unless it's a very small res. I would think. I'm in the process of turning a water cooler into a res cooler but still not expecting much, just curious to see if it does much.
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YES you are correct it's small and will NOT chill the water like a professional chiller but it works just enough to keep the water at the correct temperature in the summer if you have cooling problems. Not major heat just a bit excessive water temps over 70. I run 17 gallons.

It does work though ! I guess if you wanted you could install 2 lol

If you go on ebay you can buy these just like this instead of buying a thermal cooler and ripping it apart. You can buy 40w 60w 100w 120w 180w or more. $25 to $80. Beats paying $250 to $500 for a pro grade chiller.
 
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