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Am new to rollitup, and trying to get more things useful on growing mmj, i am kindaof old school i use cmh 315 and hps 800w for grow my plants mmj in a 5x5 area, since i heard other guys around probably swicthed to led now, but i didnt see they get very good result, so i would ask if you guys use led light for the grow,also how was the grow harvest proved there. thanks buddy 4 ur help in advance, i will make my decision later.cheeeers

Hi all I'm new here but only a few days left till harvest wish I found you all earlier peace

starboy420 said:

Hi all I'm new here but only a few days left till harvest wish I found you all earlier peace

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cheeers buddy and hope learn more from you guys

Smellbud-King said:

Am new to rollitup, and trying to get more things useful on growing mmj, i am kindaof old school i use cmh 315 and hps 800w for grow my plants mmj in a 5x5 area, since i heard other guys around probably swicthed to led now, but i didnt see they get very good result, so i would ask if you guys use led light for the grow,also how was the grow harvest proved there. thanks buddy 4 ur help in advance, i will make my decision later.cheeeers

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Its been my first time growing and from what I read and researched mh and hps are the way forward imo and we each have our own of course

starboy420 said:

Its been my first time growing and from what I read and researched mh and hps are the way forward imo and we each have our own of course

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I am also would try led since i hope to save electricity bill in next summer days.and my hps is kinda heat problem in my room .

Smellbud-King said:

I am also would try led since i hope to save electricity bill in next summer days.and my hps is kinda heat problem in my room .

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I had that good old heat problem to lol I bought all kinds cool tube cool hood ended up going back to the good old reflector and upgrading all my fans problem solved ive got 600w hps temps are at 23.6c at the min happy I would like to try the led out tho bit pricey

Smellbud-King said:

I am also would try led since i hope to save electricity bill in next summer days.and my hps is kinda heat problem in my room .

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Take a wander over to the LED section, have a look at some of the grows in the DIY quantum board thread, have a look @lukio 's journal if you can find it. Check out @Moflow 's plants if you can find some pictures.

LEDs are great but not all are equal, you don't want a cheap blurple light. Almost all of us use white light like COBs or Quantum boards or other highly efficient strips or boards.

The key is how efficient they are, they are not magical, watts equals heat, so we aim to create the same or more light per watt than HPS counterpart in doing so we have less heat.

If you want a great example of what can be done with the right LEDs go on youtube and check out growmau5, he's a DIY light enthusiast as well as a great grower, check out his early vids, see the quality and weight he is pulling.

If you want to buy DIY kits or ready built units there are a few good sellers on here. A great example for your 5x5 would be a HLG550 or HLG600 from horticultural lighting group or growers lights.com. The 550 is 550w and matches a 1000w HPS, that's your heat almost halved right there...

Edit, I notice your asking someone about mars lights. That's exactly the kind of light you want to stay away from, no point switching to LED unless its more efficient than your current set up.

Smellbud-King said:

try led

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saving the heat of your led lamp in a heatexchanger can triple energy efficiency of any aircooled led light --- and it is simple to build and understand.(you have my free support)
With your size and wattage you can produce 150-200L / day - of hot service water,
which may help you to have big savings in your "energy" bill.

...so if your grow room is close to your bathroom or kitchen *** watercooled is a smart way to go
- and a powerfull tool against global warm up.

Stltoed said:

You plants look good. Granted there are some strains that have colored trichomes sometimes, i dont know if your strains are like that. If they arent then i would say pull them. There are a lot of pistils they haven't turned. In that respect some of the buds look like they have a ways to go. So, why dont you pull the buds with the most cloudy and darkened trics. And save the buds deemed underdone for a week or two.

A lot of plants will show leaves that turn colors. Some turn yellow and dry up and are used to give the plant a little Nitrogen and help feed the buds by giving up their contents to the flowers. Some hardening additives like Koobloom dry will make this much more prolific.

The pictures are of a strain from Barneys Farm called Ayahuasca Purple. It was beautiful and did well for harvest.

Your plants are fine. Make sure your Trichomes are at least 80% cloudy. Usually amber trichomes tell you your plants is a tad bit over done. But some folks like the skunkier effects of a later harvest. It's possible you just have a couple dark ones early. If you havent started yo flush then i highly recommend you start, and go for 7 days

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Thanks for the advice. I am using koolbloom so that would explain the leaves. I lowered the nutrient concentration yesterday and didn't add any koolbloom but didn't want to flush completely not knowing when I should harvest. The issue i have is that I am leaving for a week on Saturday so I either need to chop then or it will need to run another week. I dont want it to go too long and lose potency, but I am still seeing some clear trichs and not too many amber (just a few here and there mostly).

Should I go ahead and add more koolbloom and wait a week?

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There are a LOT of pistils that haven't turned yet. Be sure you have a good way to check your trichomes.

If you use trichomes to judge doneness ( it's the most accurate) then make sure you have something to magnify the them to see them as clearly as possible. Be sure you can tell clear from cloudy. Then when they are a little bit better than 80% cloudy pull em'

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I'm using a handheld microscope that I bought from radio shack a while back that does the trick, but I don't think I have quite reached 80% cloudy yet. The amber trichs made me a little worried about running them too long. Also, other than the lower buds, the white pistils seem to all be coming off of foxtails which are much younger than the buds they are growing off of. Do I wait for the foxtails to retreat and turn cloudy?

bdigi said:

Thanks for the advice. I am using koolbloom so that would explain the leaves. I lowered the nutrient concentration yesterday and didn't add any koolbloom but didn't want to flush completely not knowing when I should harvest. The issue i have is that I am leaving for a week on Saturday so I either need to chop then or it will need to run another week. I dont want it to go too long and lose potency, but I am still seeing some clear trichs and not too many amber (just a few here and there mostly).

Should I go ahead and add more koolbloom and wait a week?

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From what i can see you could use a little more time. But you will need a solid source to take care of your plant in its final days. AND you need to do a solid flush without anything in the water. If you were running hydro and could set it up to auto refill your reservoir that would be great. If you trimmed you still have a weeks worth of watching to make sure they are drying slow and not molding. The choice is your depending on your situation. Both has risks.

Unfortunately I don't have anyone to take care of them while I'm gone. I figured I could drop the pH to the lowest acceptable level (~5.5 pH) and hope it doesn't creep above 6.8. I'm not sure whether to go with plain water while I'm gone or keep the koolbloom and nutes at half strength. I have Cyco Kleanse that I planned to run on the final couple of days if that makes any difference.

If you leave it then just do fresh water if you plan on harvesting when you get back. If you leave them in nutrients it will take another week to flush which isn't terrible. I'm thinking You will be out of water by the time you get back. It may be safest to flush all you can and harvest. Then hang it in a place that won't let it dry too fast, has a humidity below 40%, is fairly clean. Your bud isnt ready, but it looks like your situation doesnt give many great answers. It's really up to you.

Okay, sounds good. Thanks for all of the feedback. I'll go with plain water and hopefully they will all be ready when I get back. I don't see much of a drop in water level in my 40 gallon reservoir over the course of a week so I'm not worried about that. I just don't want to undersupply them with nutrients/koolbloom if they still need it.

Thanks to everyone who gave their two cents on my question a few pages back! I have decided to do a small scale grow and right now im just hoarding genetics. "OG tomatoes" for life

Antisocial Extrovert said:

2 years in the county jail is nothing. A friend of mine got caught trafficking lbs and lbs of marijuana back in the 70’s. He went in with a MBA of marijuana and came out with a PHD in cocaine. Needless to say, he became a big time drug dealer once he got his product from El Patron himself. He ended up getting caught and served close to 20 years for drug smuggling. He’s been out a few years and is doing quite well, although he’s old as fuck now lol.

May the spirit of Fat Pat keep you safe in those Texas streets. S.U.C for life.

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damn sounds like a rough time.

S.U.C. for life baybay

FPKTX said:

damn sounds like a rough time.

S.U.C. for life baybay

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Isnt yhat cute?

starboy420 said:

I had that good old heat problem to lol I bought all kinds cool tube cool hood ended up going back to the good old reflector and upgrading all my fans problem solved ive got 600w hps temps are at 23.6c at the min happy I would like to try the led out tho bit pricey

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That temps is good, maybe i will try more methods to keep heat down, hi mate if you will try led out, do you have idea now ?

coreywebster said:

Take a wander over to the LED section, have a look at some of the grows in the DIY quantum board thread, have a look @lukio 's journal if you can find it. Check out @Moflow 's plants if you can find some pictures.

LEDs are great but not all are equal, you don't want a cheap blurple light. Almost all of us use white light like COBs or Quantum boards or other highly efficient strips or boards.

The key is how efficient they are, they are not magical, watts equals heat, so we aim to create the same or more light per watt than HPS counterpart in doing so we have less heat.

If you want a great example of what can be done with the right LEDs go on youtube and check out growmau5, he's a DIY light enthusiast as well as a great grower, check out his early vids, see the quality and weight he is pulling.

If you want to buy DIY kits or ready built units there are a few good sellers on here. A great example for your 5x5 would be a HLG550 or HLG600 from horticultural lighting group or growers lights... The 550 is 550w and matches a 1000w HPS, that's your heat almost halved right there...

Edit, I notice your asking someone about mars lights. That's exactly the kind of light you want to stay away from, no point switching to LED unless its more efficient than your current set up.

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Yes mate,I think i should do more reserach before i choose the light, i will take your suggestion into consideration, thanks, right now i see mars led, fluence and spectrumking.I will talk with my partners and make a decision in the end . Thank you.