what happens if you cross an auto with a regular (non-auto) strain?-
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Ganjapussy
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You can't clone autos. Because they flower on how old they are instead of switching to "flower" if you clones a auto, the clone with flower the same time resulting in waste of time.
If you cross, the % of auto gene goes down. You can do it. But there's a chance it won't auto flower
If you cross, the % of auto gene goes down. You can do it. But there's a chance it won't auto flower
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
mating an autoflower to a photoperiod plant will result in some of the seeds being autoflower and some of the seeds will be photosensitive. assuming the male is the autoflower, preserving the pollen from the father and using it to pollinate the seeds which exhibit the autoflower trait will result in even more seeds which autoflower and a smaller percentage which still exhibit photosensitive traits. Pollinating the females which autoflower from this batch should get you pretty close to all of the resulting seeds exhibiting autoflower traits. If not then one more time using the original pollen on that batch surly would.
Ganjapussy
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Jogro
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Photo x auto crosses supposedly start and finish flowering a little earlier than the photo parent, and will likely be somewhat larger than the auto parent. Supposedly yes, they will flower with a little more light than the pure photo parent would.
I can't answer the question about whether or not they'll flower specifically under 16 hours of light. I just don't know the answer though I'm speculating that its possible and might depend on exactly which photo and auto you've crossed.
The reason you haven't is that auto plants can't be maintained in "mother" form to generate clones.
Yes, you can take a cutting from an auto and root it, but the clone will mature just as fast as the mother, and when the mother is done, so will the clone be. There is no advantage to taking such a cutting; the net effect is just to reduce your overall yield without maintaining the genetics you're after.
Well, depending on what you're trying to accomplish, it can take that many crosses to create a "pure" autoflowering version of a standard photoperiod plant, though in practice, very few breeders really go that far, and you can get most of the way there in quite a few generations sooner than that. I don't think this is what the original poster was asking about, though.
I don't believe this is correct.
Since the most common autoflower gene is recessive, it requires TWO copies (one from each parent) for any offspring plant to be autoflowering.
If you cross an auto with a photoperiod plant, each of the offspring will only carry ONE copy of the autoflowering gene (from the auto parent) and you would expect NONE of these F1 offspring to be autos.
If you then crossed two of these F1 plants to create an F2 generation, you would expect ONE QUARTER of the ensuing F2 generation to be autoflowering.
And if you then crossed two AUTOFLOWERING F3s (or an autoflower F3 with any other auto) you'd expect all of those offspring (or nearly all) to be autoflowering.
seanel
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Sassafras¥
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Realized this thread was a few yrs old after I already wrote this, so fuck it. Anyways I recently made an auto cross consisting of Heisenberg Special x an unamed photo period strain. I plan on starting a few out and seeing how the said strain turns out. If anyone's interested in seeing the results of said auto breeding feel free to check it out on my regular thread. I will be doing other breeding adventures also. Hope to see yall there.
bripay50
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Yooo I'm doing this now.
Check out my new thread and help me find yours I want too see what happened with your auto cross
Sassafras¥
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Got link?
CriticalCheeze
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You would breed the 'auto' genes right out of it. Prob also result in unstable genetics.
bripay50
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Sassafras¥
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Not necessarily. If you keep back crossing the auto into the mix of things.
george milton
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I can think of a few situations where you might want to clone an Autoflowering plant. For example if you have a single feminized seed of a very special Auto strain and want to do both use it and recreate seeds for it. You then might wait for good solid vegetative mode and grab a couple of clones for later usable harvest and keep them separate. Then take that mother plant and do the 5 days on 2 days off thing to cause her to self pollinate and produce more seeds of that precise mother for future years.
beefcakesteak
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this is old but you can clone some autos fine.
i did it with an auto gg , i took it in start of flower , it rooted , vegged a bit then flowered as big as the mother.
i think it allowed longer veg though on the clone.
i def got more than the single would of made.
i joined just to add this bc of the wrong information
source, i breed autos and photos for seed banks
i did it with an auto gg , i took it in start of flower , it rooted , vegged a bit then flowered as big as the mother.
i think it allowed longer veg though on the clone.
i def got more than the single would of made.
i joined just to add this bc of the wrong information
source, i breed autos and photos for seed banks