Discussion in 'The Black Briefcase' started by MMJ Dreaming 99, Apr 21, 2017.
yeah we get them from 800-1200 down south normally the lower.
Fast, Motorcycle, Fast.
To put some meat on the bones of O' Bama's mongering.The Mex. Cartels, during the Fast and Furious era, were getting their automatics, well over 100 thousand, from, drum roll please,.... Germany, Czeck Republic.Israel, and South Africa. Would these, our close allies, along with S. Korea and the US. support an armed conflict in someone else country? NO WAY! Not this collection of sweet nosegays (flowers).The 1600 +/- the cartels (mostly Sinaloa) got from Fast and Furious, was a token # the US. allowed across to scotch any need for a Kabuki "moral high ground" sharade and allow a wide open path for all the arms our "allies" were pouring in. Can't go after German salesmen for something WE are also selling to the same customers (over a 100 to 1 ratio, no problem, it's math, if It comes up gringos in the US will "No comprende".The uproar over Fast and Furious was 100% effective in drowning out any inconvenient discussion of what we should do about all those guns the O' Bama regime knew were being smuggled into Mexico or why they were allowing it.
The hand grenades were coming from S. Korea, S. Africa, and Israel. Please assure me, we were powerless to stop grenades, made in Israel, sold in Israel and shipped out of Israel from reaching Mexico.They were mostly falling into the hands of criminal gangs and used as terror weapons against the general public, for extortion purposes (a grenade bouncing across the dance floor on Friday night, live or dud, may, thin your crowd on Saturday night. Thank God they were very unreliable ( by design? maybe?). I assume it was the Israeli ones that were going off, the others, not so much. They were not popular long, could have been reliability or, constantly being thrown into Cantinas could have been an unintended consequence and some powerful person told his minions "Nix the grenades". Please suggest who might have done that. I'm at a loss. Pretty sure it wasn't Chapo tho.
The recommendation is not the 800 lb. gorilla. There is no smoking of med. weed in the state. A typical Republican "We know we will lose in court but we will pass it anyway and appeal every sneeze in the courtroom, delaying tactic. Smoking is in the original initiative. It took a powerful prohibitionist or group to engineer this green weenie ILLEGAL tactic (who?). I don't see Morgan loosing but it took one of my cases 3 years to clear the FL.Supreme Court. Will that be the schedule? In 2020 I believe the Devil's Lettuce will go legal here. Smoking MMJ, under a worst case, positive outcome, may not happen until around the time a "Go Legal" initiative is about to be voted on in 2020.
it is by now. when i first had it it was so bomb. probably related to kush. don't buy from the strain bank . org everything is fake.
Was paying 900 for cali og n that was my buddy making prolly a hundo on it
If you lived in south Florida in the early 80s and didn't want to do weed or coke, you were fucked because they were impossible to avoid.
My mom fixed me up with a 'nice Jewish girl' because she thought I needed a girlfriend. Turns out the girl had been reluctant to meet me too, having been pressured by her mother. Though we weren't physically attracted, we discovered we liked to get high, and she became a friend. What a friend!
She was a mule hauling 35 pound bales of square grouper (Colombian red - see picture above. 420producer is showing us the real thing) in her capped pickup from West Palm to Boston once a month. I'd visit her upon her return. After we chilled and caught up, she'd put a new vacuum bag in her machine, walk out to the carport and get up all the shake out of the truck bed. She'd remove the bag from the vacuum, hand it to me with a kiss and a smile, and happily home I'd go to Miami with a huge bag of free weed! My record was 22oz total. Breakdown after cleaning was 14z herb/8z seeds. That's a lot of seeds. That's what fold out albums were for. Ironically, those seeds and many pounds more went straight in the trash! Pure sativa Colombian! What a shame.
If street value is $35 an eight a pound should be around $2,500, give or take for appearance, quality etc.
If the street value is $20 an eight a pound should go for around $1,500.
You guys do realize it only costs about $1 to grow an eighth, indoors, on a small scale, right? It's probably a lot less in a production environment, and even less for outdoor bud.
I haven't run the numbers on that yet, I'm sure you're not taking into account labour or risk.
If I go outside and ask someone for an eighth and the answer I get is on the ring of $35 for good bud and $40-50 for outstanding bud, the wholesale prices will follow the retail prices, in a linear progression.
Say you sell someone a pound at $240, that's two dollars an eighth, they sell it for $35 an eighth.
Do you know the profit margin?
HOLY FUCK I WANT TO GET IN ON THAT!!!!
That's more than gold!
Nope, no labor, and in a legal state, no risk for personal use. But even if you add labor, depreciation, and spoilage in a legal commercial grow, it wouldn't be a lot more; in fact, it would probably be less.
I'll tell ya what.
Put me on credit for 1,000,000 lbs, over the next ten years.
I will pay you for all 1,000,000 lbs before you are able to grow them.
I'll be rich, bitch!
if you don't count the time invested, the space reserserved or the effort and you don't count the price of a seed or clone and you can grow outdoor in privacy for free in the right soil then you just need water and fertelizer. supposing all your tools where free.
You amortise all the equipment costs the first run.
I don't grow for profit or money ....I grow for cancer patients and disabled who need good clean medicine.....I've seen first hand MMJ save a family members life by stopping siezures completely.....that said, I take pride and try to grow the best I possibly can for these people. I've had patients family members try to get me to sell for way more than what I'm seeing people getting above....even had a club trying last year...I have a normal 9 to 5 job and that's how I make my money....but it seems with everyone becoming growers there's a lot more low quality bud around...so if the smoke is exceptional it still commands a decent price .....nothing like years ago, but far more than 800 to a G..... Im amazed how persistent people are when they can't have something they really want ....I wouldn't sell no matter the price. I got into growing to help people many years ago and it's my hobby,so I try to produce the best I can ....plus I was seriously irritated watching sick people get ripped off by people because they had no other option..... I had no idea prices were that low especially after getting the offers I did......so if someone is growing for money ((which I'm not)) I suggest you grow dank and let it speak for itself.......I've never advertised at all and had strangers trying to contact me......it's already stressful enough just growing trying to help people....couldn't imagine the money angle thrown in there ....no thank you
It is one of those things that the buyer wants low prices and the seller wants high prices.
You can't get away from over-head, only marginalized it with automation and technique.
Some may be able to produce a lb. at "x" cost while another using higher efficiency can produce at "y" cost.
Just because one is more efficient than the other doesn't change the market price unless it becomes flooded.
We see this at certain times of year when outdoor crops come in or summertime is over and indoor is firing back up.
Then you have theft, legal issues etc.
At the end of the day, legal or not, there is a figure that can be applied.
The fly in the ointment is that cannabis is NOT a commodity. People want it to be, but there are too many variables; quality, strain, cannabinoids... This makes it harder to determine fair market value.
Exactly, and people will pay good money for good product....but usually those people are smokers...not people trying to flip lbs at the growers expense so to say....
..I had a patient start selling half of what I was giving her this year...so after long thought and suggestions from lots of people I trust here....I gave her a well established plant and told her....if your guna try to make money you need to grow your own ....6 weeks later she called and said I can't find any good meds could I please help her again she promised to never sell anything I help her with again LOL....I think it was her son/grandson making her do that......no problems since ....so many people are tossing plants in there yard for a quick buck ...it's flooding the market with complete shit....so when well above average stuff shows up ....people want it BAD!! still
Quality speaks for itself, 'loud' lol
Wouldn't cannabis be a commodity regardless of people's views?
We consume it like coffee or oranges.
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