What kind of deficiency is this?

Grenier5413

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I'm having the same looking issue with my plants. They have been totally fine up until I started to flower then it really showed up. I thought p but I have several close es of same batch still in veg that are starting to show signs. I'm gonna try epsom salts thinking it might be magnesium deficiancy. The only other thing is my grow box temps are farely high like 85 degrees. Currently working on ventilation and intake. My ph is six five and general nute test reads borderline to little and ideal on the rapitest meter.
 

sponge

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I'm in week 4 of flower and I have pretty much the same thing. I tried 2tsp/gallon of GH Floronova Bloom to see if it helps or makes it worse. I keep PH between 6.1 and 6.5.

30 Minutes till I can open the flowering room and update.
 

BiG $m0k3

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What kind of soil are you using i had samething going on soon as i hit 2 weeks into flower. Fox farms ocean forest is what i was using
Im also using fox farm ocean forest. The drainage was fine at first. But then all of a sudden when i water. It takes forever to drain. I think it could be root rot.
 

BiG $m0k3

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I'm in week 4 of flower and I have pretty much the same thing. I tried 2tsp/gallon of GH Floronova Bloom to see if it helps or makes it worse. I keep PH between 6.1 and 6.5.

30 Minutes till I can open the flowering room and update.
Do you have slow drainage in your soil? I think that might be what's causing my issue. I've researched it quite a bit and the only conclusion I could come to his root rot because of the slow drainage in my soil. I thought it was the pH at first. But then I tested the runoff and the pH was fine. It takes so long for my water to drain out of the bottom. It used to drain super fast but now it seems like the soil has moved around and formed dense pockets. The pictures I've seen online of root rot and over-watering look like what's happening to me. Do you think you're having the same issue as me?
 

sponge

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Do you have slow drainage in your soil? I think that might be what's causing my issue. I've researched it quite a bit and the only conclusion I could come to his root rot because of the slow drainage in my soil. I thought it was the pH at first. But then I tested the runoff and the pH was fine. It takes so long for my water to drain out of the bottom. It used to drain super fast but now it seems like the soil has moved around and formed dense pockets. The pictures I've seen online of root rot and over-watering look like what's happening to me. Do you think you're having the same issue as me?
Well, it seems like we have tentatively narrowed this down to FFOF as I am using it as well. However, I did ad about 15% perlite to mine so I think drainage is out of the question.

I have one plant in Coast of maine out of six which at the same time I had forgotten to ad perlite to and just let it go. It's also a different strain from the other 5. This one plant takes weeks to need water again and while it doesn't show the same issues as the others it is also growing at a much, much slower rate than all the rest. The limbs are smaller and the buds are very airy compared to the critical kush plants with perlite.

If you sat back for a moment and just assumed, perhaps a little bit fictitiously or perhaps not, that we all have the same issue....only one thing really comes to mind. Only the lower leaves have this issue on my plans. Very lower fan leaves which are getting hardly any light penetration are one by one shriveling up and falling off. Maybe 5 leaves total per 24 hours. Not a catastrophic problem by any means for plants with as much foliage as mine have. The upper plants which get a lot of light are thriving. buds coming in nicely, or so they seem to be to my novice eye.

A hypothesis is starting to form in the back of my mind that maybe the plant is just doing away with the leaves which aren't getting enough light to be productive anyway and so it's using up their nutrients and shedding them away.

Maybe this isn't logical at all? I'm not a pro or anything so take it with a grain of salt. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable on this stuff can chime in with a comparison with all the info we've given. I'll leave a link to my thread in case you want to investigate any further as well as attach a couple pictures here for reference.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/passive-intake-600w-6-plant-lst-critical-kush.932706/

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Grenier5413

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I also am using Fox farms ocean Forrest. I didn't add any calcium or greensand so I will try that next time. I am waiting to see if some calmag does the trick. It's the only thing I haven't put in the mix.
 

Oregonhwy101

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Do you have slow drainage in your soil? I think that might be what's causing my issue. I've researched it quite a bit and the only conclusion I could come to his root rot because of the slow drainage in my soil. I thought it was the pH at first. But then I tested the runoff and the pH was fine. It takes so long for my water to drain out of the bottom. It used to drain super fast but now it seems like the soil has moved around and formed dense pockets. The pictures I've seen online of root rot and over-watering look like what's happening to me. Do you think you're having the same issue as me?
I thought it was my ph as well i was also thought it was a cal/mag issue but i was running the whole lune of cutting edge solutions all 8 bottles i then thought it was nute burn just fed water but it didnt stop they finished up but were very stunted compared to what they should have been im switching to roots organic for my next run
 

Grenier5413

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I will get some better pics up later so you can see the actual leaves that are discolored. The good thing is it's not happening to new growth. However I have seen plants die in 24 hours before so I'm always nervous. I know they are not over feed and pH is dead nuts. They didn't see any food until I transplanted them into there containers from beer cups.
 

sponge

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Well I gave them 2tsp/gallon of GH Floronova Bloom 3 days ago. Today, 3 days later only 1 fan leaf fell off last night for 6 plants. No new signs of deficiency/burn/over-watering or anything that has developed over the last 24 hours.

I'm pretty sure at this point, for me, that I just didn't catch the window of feeding with a high enough ppm at the right time. this caused me to bounce back and fourth for awhile trying to figure out what was wrong; including trying a watering with no food at all, when I think that is exactly what they needed exacerbating the problem.
 
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