What to use together with Canna nutes

There's nothing funny about watching guys/gals throw their money away on watered down fancy nutes. Trust me bro I've used em all from canna to AN to GH back to roots organic. You'll never understand. Take a cup of ray Cogo's to any cup of your choice nutrient and you'll be pretty disappointed in how watered down your products are. Not to mention if your using all of cannas products you might as well be using advanced with a different label. #truth


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DirtyEyeball696 said:

There's nothing funny about watching guys/gals throw their money away on watered down fancy nutes. Trust me bro I've used em all from canna to AN to GH back to roots organic. You'll never understand. Take a cup of ray Cogo's to any cup of your choice nutrient and you'll be pretty disappointed in how watered down your products are. Not to mention if your using all of cannas products you might as well be using advanced with a different label. #truth


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I pay about 60$ for 5l each of coco a&b. don't remember how much the pk was, a little bit goes a long way. all in all maybe 100$ worth, and that sees me through maybe four or five harvests - or even more, those bottles seems to last forever. my tiny bottle of Canna Boost was free, it's not something I've used before. I'm considering blowing a little on Bloombastic, just to squeeze the margins. if that's excessive spending you need to get your eyes on the prices in my country. I'm definitely not dissing diy nutes, it's just not in my skill set yet, if ever. I've gotten decent results in the past with Canna, and this time I'll get even better results. for all I know Canna's no good, but I know it's not very overpriced. in my overpriced little European country, that is. I realize that cost is both varying and relative, I just wonder if you do. total cost of nutes is way less than 1% of the value of my crop. if I were to increase my crop by 2% by increasing nutes cost by half, it's just good business.

I admit the clear possibility that one could design a more efficient nutrient base than Canna Coco a+b, but I fail to see how it could be done cheaper, under the pricing regime around here. and taking my lack of knowledge it could easily end up more expensive than Canna, even if you gave it to me for free. just because something is overpriced one place doesn't mean it's overpriced everywhere.

Edit: and I've multiple times mentioned what I'm using, so continued insistence on me using the complete line is borderline ill willed.

Im with you @Stiga.
I do keep records. Each crop. I know what it costs me to do this. I know how much Canna I use, how much power I use, and how much that is costing.
I will continue to use Canna for now.

jeepster1993 said:

Im with you @Stiga.
I do keep records. Each crop. I know what it costs me to do this. I know how much Canna I use, how much power I use, and how much that is costing.
I will continue to use Canna for now.

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I've only ever used biobizz and Canna, but I never went back after trying coco with Canna. there seems to be differences in pricing, because Canna is totally affordable/reasonably priced in my country. it seems likely that Canna gets a big bump on the way across the Atlantic. I find Canna forgiving and relatively simple to use. after reading up on Canna I came across the story that Canna Coco is designed for about 200 ppm water, so my 60ppm water needs to be fortified to avoid defs. they've greened up nicely in the couple of days since I got them, so I'm hopeful.

As I've said before, it's pretty much impossible to beat Canna on price in my market, but if something is better I'm willing to try, but price is hardly a consideration, unless it's insanely expensive.

all you need in canna is
Canna coco a/b
pk 13/14
and boost

nothing else

run it @ 8ml a gal or 2ml a L for A/B
use pk during week 4 of flower only and follow directions on boost

if you are in coco
you will not need calmg or bloombastic or anything else
they say use 200ppm water not for Calmg but for tge ph buffers contained in tap water
I have seen many people use Canna coco perfectly with RO water with great success without the need for Calmg

I agree they are high priced nutes for what they are but effective none the less

there are many nutes that are much more cost effective but you already have it so USE IT!!!!

Wisher2 said:

all you need in canna is
Canna coco a/b
pk 13/14
and boost

nothing else

run it @ 8ml a gal or 2ml a L for A/B
use pk during week 4 of flower only and follow directions on boost

if you are in coco
you will not need calmg or bloombastic or anything else
they say use 200ppm water not for Calmg but for tge ph buffers contained in tap water
I have seen many people use Canna coco perfectly with RO water with great success without the need for Calmg

I agree they are high priced nutes for what they are but effective none the less

there are many nutes that are much more cost effective but you already have it so USE IT!!!!

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I've fallen down on 2 ml/l of a+b, just by playing with the ppm meter. in one week the girls went from pretty messed up to fountains of delicious green. of course, I have no idea what the 150ish ppm calmag I've been adding did. But I'm nervous about messing up again lol. then again, 900ppm total might be a disaster in the waiting.

Thanks for your advice, I'll definitely add it to my increasing database lol. I have to google the price of Canna in America, they're cheap as ... here

AtterStiga said:

I've fallen down on 2 ml/l of a+b, just by playing with the ppm meter. in one week the girls went from pretty messed up to fountains of delicious green. of course, I have no idea what the 150ish ppm calmag I've been adding did. But I'm nervous about messing up again lol. then again, 900ppm total might be a disaster in the waiting.

Thanks for your advice, I'll definitely add it to my increasing database lol. I have to google the price of Canna in America, they're cheap as ... here

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Canna is extremely expensive here in the States
but here in the states we can get premium salts for next to nothing
fertilizer used for agricultural hydroponics on a large scale for pennies on the dollar

you can get a hydroponic premix of dry salts of 5-11-26 25lb bag for about 30-40 us dollars and a 50lbs bag of calcium nitrate for about 20 us dollars

that is enough to make literally 1000's of gallons of hydroponic nutrient solution
so here in the states you can spend $100.00 and purchase enough to grow a million plants or spend $200.00 that will last you maybe 3 cycles

but dont get me wrong
canna is a great nutrient line

good luck on your grow

jeepster1993 said:

Expensive is relative.
We are growing something with a real value to it. Dollars/Euros per gram.

I keep some records, like cost. I run cost of Canna including boost, which is real expensive up front, at a cent or 2 a gram of finished bud, my cost.

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I agree it is relative
but those costs really only come into play when you are selling IMO

for personal use
I would rather pay pennies up front for great medicine than try to recoup my money later if that makes sense

and in all honesty
where I live in this world
Cannabis doesn't really hold that much value anymore

and soon the cost of high quality cannabis will be something like 50 cents per gram or $15.00 an ounce

pretty soon it will have about as much value as the tomato in the back yard
so to throw all that money into salts that have been premixed with water and sold at a premium.....to ME is not worth it

with that being said
Canna would probably be one of the only premium lines I would use if need be

It sells here legally at a store, for $80 now, bunk weed no doubt, hermies, popcorn, bottom of the plant, but $100 with tax.(Good, worth smoking cannabis is much more expensive, to be fair)
But price is not the only consideration. Eagle 20.. pesticides. fungicides, bugs, Scares me enough to grow my own, even at a couple bucks a gram.
Same reason folks grow tomatoes at home, taste and health.

jeepster1993 said:

It sells here legally at a store, for $80 now, bunk weed no doubt, hermies, popcorn, bottom of the plant, but $100 with tax.(Good, worth smoking cannabis is much more expensive, to be fair)
But price is not the only consideration. Eagle 20.. pesticides. fungicides, bugs, Scares me enough to grow my own, even at a couple bucks a gram.
Same reason folks grow tomatoes at home, taste and health.

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i agree but I don't think that was ever considered when I was talking about expense of nutrients...

and here in California where I live...in the very near future...cannabis will be going down in price dramatically

I to grow tomatoes in my back yard...which are delicious.....and I don't spend any money on seeds...(save my own) and since I grow organically...cover crops...no till...so I spend no money

for my cannabis....outdoors organic for hash
indoor hydroponics grown from RO water and pharma grade mineral salts

spending a higher price for a company to take those same mineral salts and mix them in ro water making a stock solution and selling it to the public for an exorbitant amount isn't for me

but to each there own

there are many company's that can sell people all the mineral salts, kelp, humic and fulvic, etc.....for your own mix....literally for pennies on the dollar....buying bottled nutrients...you are paying for water and a plastic bottle

when you go to a large scale hydroponic agricultural grow......you will NEVER find bottled nutrients...EVER
bags of dry salts
the reason why there produce doesn't taste as good as the home produce......it isn't the fact that home is organic
it is the fact that those crops aren't picked when they are ripe...but picked green....shipped across the world...and then subject the ethylene gas...to artificially ripen the outside of said product
but the inside is still pubescent
do a side by side test at home and you would see there is no difference

on this forum...many people have moved to dry salts with outstanding results

DirtyEyeball696 said:

There's nothing funny about watching guys/gals throw their money away on watered down fancy nutes. Trust me bro I've used em all from canna to AN to GH back to roots organic. You'll never understand. Take a cup of ray Cogo's to any cup of your choice nutrient and you'll be pretty disappointed in how watered down your products are. Not to mention if your using all of cannas products you might as well be using advanced with a different label. #truth


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I agree... I have been using Cogo's for a while and it is beating everything else I tried and wasted lots of money on.