Whathe would you do? Leaf removal.

Jeffro420

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Ok guys I'm not one of these 3 a light guys that wants to remove all the fans leaves. But this geow I vegged longer than normal and added an extra 1000 watt hps and my plants are huge but also have a lot of leaves which I know is a good thing but it almost seems like this particular strain is too leafy for an indoor geow. I'm asking your opinion on whether I should

A. Leave it be.
B. Remove a few fan leaves if so what ones.
C.I'm a dumb ass for even thinking about it.

I'm on day 29 of 1212. There is 12 Gaspberry plants in 7 gallon pots using promix and advanced nutes under 3 1000s. Humidity is 40-50 and Temps are 74° and 66° night.

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dandyrandy

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My only concern would be mold. Not knowing your situation they look great. But for some in a very enclosed environment they may need to remove a bit. I like lots of strains so I tend to try to allow lot's of air movement. I wish I had more space.
 

GroErr

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Plants are healthy as f*k, the leaves provide theiir energy to build big buds, don't screw with them. Just keep good airflow in there and manage your RH, ideally <55% and you'll have no worries with mould. You concern should be finding some help trimming that shit when it's done ;)
 

Jeffro420

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My only concern would be mold. Not knowing your situation they look great. But for some in a very enclosed environment they may need to remove a bit. I like lots of strains so I tend to try to allow lot's of air movement. I wish I had more space.

They are in a 13'×13' space with lots of fresh air coming in and lots of air being sucked out thru the 10" carbon filter. I've also got 3 oscillating fans going. I'd say 60% of the room is filled with growth. My main concern was the good amount of buds near the middle not getting much light. I remove the lower 1/3, 14 days into flower.
 

Indacouch

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Plants are healthy as f*k, the leaves provide theiir energy to build big buds, don't screw with them. Just keep good airflow in there and manage your RH, ideally <55% and you'll have no worries with mould. You concern should be finding some help trimming that shit when it's done ;)
That pretty much sums it up ...
 

dandyrandy

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They are in a 13'×13' space with lots of fresh air coming in and lots of air being sucked out thru the 10" carbon filter. I've also got 3 oscillating fans going. I'd say 60% of the room is filled with growth. My main concern was the good amount of buds near the middle not getting much light. I remove the lower 1/3, 14 days into flower.
Looks great. This time of year humidity for me is a problem. I tend to go for more open personal grow. I got bit by mold once several years ago. Some of the tight bud strains I like are prone to that.
 

bryan oconner

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jam pack the room . thats the way to do it . lol once i had to climb on my hands and knees to get into the room and water . it sucked ! looks good . leave it .
 

Bareback

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It looks like a jungle, great job.

I usually only have high humidity problems in late flower, the rest of the time it's low lol.
 
Remember. Even lower fan leaves in shade are helping. Removing these lower ones will help upper growth...But only if they have time to heal. And some herbs are just freaky about change. Fan leaves are solar collectors helping photosynthesis. Remove these and you also remove energy. You just need to space them differently or wait and see.
 

westcoast420

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Just be prepared if you follow all this "leave all the leaves on" stuff you will have a significantly reduced harvest and anything growing under those leaves will be popcorn if that. Alot of people dont grow big plants, so they think the same practices apply when you grow a small plant with lots of space. Also its a good thing to have a full room of plants, but you can over do it and when your plants overgrow each other and you cant get any airflow under the canopy thats when you start having problems with mildew and other issues.
 

Jeffro420

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Just be prepared if you follow all this "leave all the leaves on" stuff you will have a significantly reduced harvest and anything growing under those leaves will be popcorn if that. Alot of people dont grow big plants, so they think the same practices apply when you grow a small plant with lots of space. Also its a good thing to have a full room of plants, but you can over do it and when your plants overgrow each other and you cant get any airflow under the canopy thats when you start having problems with mildew and other issues.

We'll if you could walk into that room right now how much of the large fans would you take off?
 

westcoast420

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Alot man. How many plants are in there? You dont wana go pulling a bunch at once. I pull about 10-20 leaves at once per plant every few days. If they are healthy they just grow back lol. I would look at the fans that are just down from the tops, if they are blocking light to buds, remove them.
 

Jeffro420

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Alot man. How many plants are in there? You dont wana go pulling a bunch at once. I pull about 10-20 leaves at once per plant every few days. If they are healthy they just grow back lol. I would look at the fans that are just down from the tops, if they are blocking light to buds, remove them.
There are 12 plants. Today is day 30.
 

hellmutt bones

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Dude thats too many leaf imo you are gonna get fluff.. just trim it down to 50%.
If you dont you are gonna hate doing it at harvest so start now.
 

bryan oconner

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dont cut the leaves . lolly pop the plants trim off those popcorn bud sites. the light will only go about 1.5 foot deep into the plants. those are not big plants lol . people that grow bigger plants spread them out over a wider area so the light is able to hit the sides as well . there are to many plants close together . so what these best thing to do is an opinion i would lolly pop them all put poles and zip ties to space the branches out more
 

GroErr

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Lollipopping after the stretch is fine to keep some air flow below canopy but once they're this far in only dead leaves should be removed. Basic botany, leaves collect light, transpire and respire using photosynthesis to feed/grow the plant cells, that process gets thrown off when you start chopping off leaves or have an environment that throws the respiration/transpiration process out of balance. Light to flowers doesn't generate bigger flowers, light to leaves = bigger flowers. Basic botany, MJ is no different than any other flowering plant.


If you want this in a 3 gal pot, you won't get it by chopping off healthy leaves:

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