What's the rules on naming an unnamed plant?

SouthCross

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I grow primarily bag seed. Unknown strains. Some of the strains I come across have been cross bred by accident. Thanks to honey bees.

What's the rules on naming a plant you didn't specifically breed and doesn't have a known breeder? I'm not about stealing someone's hard work....or mistake, but some of these strains need proper identification. Calling it bag weed doesn't work.
 

Jimmy Verde

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I grow primarily bag seed. Unknown strains. Some of the strains I come across have been cross bred by accident. Thanks to honey bees.

What's the rules on naming a plant you didn't specifically breed and doesn't have a known breeder? I'm not about stealing someone's hard work....or mistake, but some of these strains need proper identification. Calling it bag weed doesn't work.
Lol call it as u please just get the Indica or sativa part right the name can be anything at this point
 

greg nr

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Not only can you name it anything you want, literally nobody can stop you. there is a federal law prohibiting the trademark or copyright of anything cannabis related. The only exception is artwork. You can trademark a piece of art with a brand in it, but you cant register or trademark the brand itself.

So the dirty little secret is nobody owns the strain names. Well, maybe monsanto will, but bodhi or tga or tony green or hso or a hundred other breeders don't, even if they created the genetics and named them 20 years ago.

That's one of the reasons there is a scramble to document strains in dna databases. If the guvvies ever allow strains to be trademarked or patented, they will have a leg up on prior art claims.

Wild West Claim jumping will look like child's play when the gates open.
 

too larry

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No rules. I have grown out a few bagseed myself. I started off calling the bought pot Bag Seed Testers 1, 2, 3 etc. etc. Then I name the plants from there. The best BST male last year got named Big & Stinky. I use patch names and numbers to keep the plants straight. A few of my strain names: B&S X FP#2 is Rotten Stinking Bastard, B&S X FP#3 is Peach, B&S X BST1 FP is Hurricane Head FP. I also have BST2 GN crosses named Little Sister and Prickly Pear.

My BIL gifted me seeds from an old sativa heavy cross he had made. The first year I called it Jack Carlos Cross, from the two growers it came from. The 2nd year I made CP1, CPDA, CP2R3, GV2, GV3, GV4, Slo2, SOL and BP

A friend gifted me some bud and seeds. They were both dusted with Donkey Kong pollen. I named the Cindy's Blue Cheese cross Ass Cheese. The other my friend called Grapish BS {bag seed}. I started off calling it Grape Ape. But one of my friends was growing the real Grape Ape, so I changed it to Grape Gorilla. Well it turned out there was a strain named Grape Gorilla too. So I went to Goggle Translate and tried several different languages until I came up with Gorille de Raisin.
 

too larry

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This year I'm growing a bunch of Shit/Skunk crosses. So far I haven't thought up names for them.
 

Nugachino

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I'm still doing bag seed. I keep finding the little bastards. Not that I'm complaining. Technically I didn't pay for the seeds. So when I do find em. I try and bag up and mark them as best I can to describe the taste, smell and look of the buds. I've got dozens. And hope to obtain dozens more.

Current plant is crazy good. Like a 70/30 Sativa Indica hybrid. Sativa high and thin, pointy leaves. With the stocky Indica growth and a little bit of stone to keep the freakouts at bay.
 

too larry

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I'm still doing bag seed. I keep finding the little bastards. Not that I'm complaining. Technically I didn't pay for the seeds. So when I do find em. I try and bag up and mark them as best I can to describe the taste, smell and look of the buds. I've got dozens. And how to obtain dozens more.
I took an 11 year break from smoking and growing. Sometime during that time, a breaker tripped in an old shed, and I lost my seed collection. Well, I still have the seeds, they just are no good. I had saved all the good bag seeds for years. The meanings of some of the names were lost to me. Brenda's Spastic Posse, The Last Supper, and too many more to remember. Those were the NAFTA days, so most of it was green Mexican. But with plenty of local homegrown thrown in too.
 

SoOLED

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for personal use, do whatever you want.

if you plan to market them, I think you owe it to yourself, and others. to get a cheap lab work at the very least.

a $300 test will ballpark you well enough to back up anything you might claim.

some of the Dutch LAbs, prices up to $$K will tell every bit whats going on with their very complete data bases.

this is why a lot of EU breeders have a bit of an advantage, since we don't have the data base or ease of access here in the states.
 

SouthCross

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I went back to the person that gave me the seeds. It's a member of his family that grows. Unless some honey bees crossed some plants.

It's White Widow. Every aspect of the plant fits the description. Bud looks the same. Height, leaf shape and cola size. If it was crossed by bees. It's Blueberry/White widow. A natural cross making Berry white....if the male was Blueberry...

It's not showing any blue colors. Mild or otherwise. I consider it White Widow. Even if it's not, the breeder still gets the credit. Not my plant. I didn't breed this thing. I just grew it.
 

morgwar

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There are no rules. Just be a dude, not a dick. Give credit if you can.
If you don't know who bred it you can't hurt their rep if you mess up.
Look at chemdog for instance, he has no idea what that strains lineage is before that bag of beans.
Anything popular at the time of its growing could be its origin. But we now have an empire built on chem dawg.
Do we thank serious seeds, dna, no.
Its yours buddy!
work it and make it great, ill buy it.
 

Nugachino

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So you're saying. If I wanted to breed my current unknown plant with an auto and call it Midnite Starfish or Donut Punch. I can?
 

Nugachino

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Interesting. I've tried the manifolding. Ive tried the scrog. I've even built a cob light. And now I've successfully tried clones. Maybe my future thing to do could be to make that hybrid.
 

morgwar

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Were at a point where they're nearly all related anyway. Unless you work a line for a few years there's nothing to claim.
 

too larry

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Were at a point where they're nearly all related anyway. Unless you work a line for a few years there's nothing to claim.
For the last 3 seasons I've been growing a cross made in 1988. The seeds spent 25 years in a freezer not being grown until they were gifted to me. It works great in the sandhills here in NW Florida. Not as heady as some strains today, but almost no problems. I have made some crosses with it, so I will have to wait to see how they do, and go from there.
 
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