What's wrong this plant?

gday friends
There's this plant that's 2 weeks old, bag seed, growing in soil and perlite under four 23w CFCs and a 150w full spectrum led.
There's this weird whiteish colouring to one of the leaves that's double in size since yesterday and weird marks to others. Was wondering what's going on and how to fix?

Bagseeds are typically not good. Why spend all that time and effort and money fucking with a retarded stepchild. it looks pretty healthy though for the most part. I wouldn't start worrying just yet. Hopefully once it begins to flourish it will look OK.
I think it looks a bit hungry. I would just keep doing what you're doing as of now though.

Cheers for the reply mate, I got home and had a look during lights off and found two little caterpillars munching away, have no idea how they got I. There to start off with but oh well.

Keep close eyes on your growing enviroment

smokermore said:

Bagseeds are typically not good. Why spend all that time and effort and money fucking with a retarded stepchild. it looks pretty healthy though for the most part. I wouldn't start worrying just yet. Hopefully once it begins to flourish it will look OK.
I think it looks a bit hungry. I would just keep doing what you're doing as of now though.

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Untrue. Bagseed are just fine.

Some fella said:

gday friends
There's this plant that's 2 weeks old, bag seed, growing in soil and perlite under four 23w CFCs and a 150w full spectrum led.
There's this weird whiteish colouring to one of the leaves that's double in size since yesterday and weird marks to others. Was wondering what's going on and how to fix?
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I wouldn't worry much. Looks fine. Looks like nutrient water was spilled on it.

whitebb2727 said:

Untrue. Bagseed are just fine.

I wouldn't worry much. Looks fine. Looks like nutrient water was spilled on it.

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I think I may have had it wrong I guess the genetically bred seeds are the ones you want to stay away from. My bad. Also that was a horrible analogy, I don't support using the word retard in any context, I must've been having a bad day or drunk or something.

In my experience all of the bagseeds I've grown ended up getting a horrible case of powder mold during the last few weeks of flower. Just that reason alone is enough for me not to mess with bagseeds and get something that's genetically engineered for mold resistant. I'm not saying all bags seeds are shit and it's an automatic fail, just doesn't seem worth the risk for me when you could spend $10 on a decent seed.

Some fella said:

found two little caterpillars munching away

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Get some DE and sprinkle some on top of your soil it will help keep bugs away

My very first grow that produced bud back in '78 was 4 strains of bagseed. If I'd known then what I know now I'd still be growing those strains. :sigh:

smokermore said:

I think I may have had it wrong I guess the genetically bred seeds are the ones you want to stay away from. My bad. Also that was a horrible analogy, I don't support using the word retard in any context, I must've been having a bad day or drunk or something.

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Genetically bred seeds? All seeds are genetically bred.

I get what you are getting at. People think that bag seeds are inferior genetics and prone to herming out.

With bag seed it is possible for a hermaphrodite. Its possible in all cannabis seeds.

Newer studies show its not necessarily the genetics but an enzyme (can't remember if that's the correct term) that cause hermaphrodites.

It is a survival mechanism.

I spent many years growing bag and brick seed. Its still not legal where I am.

For the most part, the end product will be better than what the seed come from if grown with care.

If the bud is completely seeded then either a male or full on hermaphrodite seeded it. Its a toss up. Might be good might be bad. Even if it came from a hermaphrodite it is still only a slightly higher chance of herming.

If it has very few seeds it came from small male expression in the female plant. Either from being over ripe or a bit of stress. Those type seeds will mostly be full on female.

Now this said, I have been growing seeds from respected breeders for a number of years. I have a small setup and ran fem beans for a while just for the conveince.

I still grow bag and brick seed even though I have good genetics.

I have moved on from buying seeds to making my own crosses. I have more seeds than I will ever need.

whitebb2727 said:

Genetically bred seeds? All seeds are genetically bred.

I get what you are getting at. People think that bag seeds are inferior genetics and prone to herming out.

With bag seed it is possible for a hermaphrodite. Its possible in all cannabis seeds.

Newer studies show its not necessarily the genetics but an enzyme (can't remember if that's the correct term) that cause hermaphrodites.

It is a survival mechanism.

I spent many years growing bag and brick seed. Its still not legal where I am.

For the most part, the end product will be better than what the seed come from if grown with care.

If the bud is completely seeded then either a male or full on hermaphrodite seeded it. Its a toss up. Might be good might be bad. Even if it came from a hermaphrodite it is still only a slightly higher chance of herming.

If it has very few seeds it came from small male expression in the female plant. Either from being over ripe or a bit of stress. Those type seeds will mostly be full on female.

Now this said, I have been growing seeds from respected breeders for a number of years. I have a small setup and ran fem beans for a while just for the conveince.

I still grow bag and brick seed even though I have good genetics.

I have moved on from buying seeds to making my own crosses. I have more seeds than I will ever need.

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Dang it, this is why I hardly ever try to help out in this section. There's always somebody who knows more than me and I always get shown up/corrected. I promise I'm giving my best advice. I might come back here and try again in a few years LOL. After so many years you'd think Id have it down pretty well, but I obviously don't. I'm just a Noob who sticks to the basics.; Clean fresh new soil before every grow and bottled nutes. I know doing it that way is probably nowhere near professional, but for me seems to be a foolproof system.

I would really like to take my growing skills to the next level, and not use any bottled nutes, as well as recycling and composting all of my old soil. Seems like it's just been hard for me to find the time to learn all these new things.

Don't feel bad @smokermore. I've been growing and reading about growing pot for longer than a lot of members here have been alive and just can't get into all the minutia of some of the grow techniques. I've always tried to keep it as simple and easy as possible. Right now I'm tending about 30 plants all in pots. Multiple plants in some pots so 16 pots all told that need watering/feeding every 3-4 days and bug checking everyday thanks to thrips I didn't get completely rid of before flowering most of them. Only finding 6 or 7 bugs a day so it's not bad now. At least 2 hours/day. Every frickin day and that's just too much like work.

Then there's all that damn trimming.

I found a great spot to download FREE POT BOOKS. I downloaded a grow bible first and got lots more. Books look great and complete like the real ones I have here. No web site but just a page of links. Just right click on what you want and then "Save Link As" to download so they don't open first as some are 50+ megs. They got lots. Enjoy.

OldMedUser said:

Don't feel bad @smokermore. I've been growing and reading about growing pot for longer than a lot of members here have been alive and just can't get into all the minutia of some of the grow techniques. I've always tried to keep it as simple and easy as possible. Right now I'm tending about 30 plants all in pots. Multiple plants in some pots so 16 pots all told that need watering/feeding every 3-4 days and bug checking everyday thanks to thrips I didn't get completely rid of before flowering most of them. Only finding 6 or 7 bugs a day so it's not bad now. At least 2 hours/day. Every frickin day and that's just too much like work.

Then there's all that damn trimming.

I found a great spot to download FREE POT BOOKS. I downloaded a grow bible first and got lots more. Books look great and complete like the real ones I have here. No web site but just a page of links. Just right click on what you want and then "Save Link As" to download so they don't open first as some are 50+ megs. They got lots. Enjoy.

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Theres a fair few books to read there

OldMedUser said:

Don't feel bad @smokermore. I've been growing and reading about growing pot for longer than a lot of members here have been alive and just can't get into all the minutia of some of the grow techniques. I've always tried to keep it as simple and easy as possible. Right now I'm tending about 30 plants all in pots. Multiple plants in some pots so 16 pots all told that need watering/feeding every 3-4 days and bug checking everyday thanks to thrips I didn't get completely rid of before flowering most of them. Only finding 6 or 7 bugs a day so it's not bad now. At least 2 hours/day. Every frickin day and that's just too much like work.

Then there's all that damn trimming.

I found a great spot to download FREE POT BOOKS. I downloaded a grow bible first and got lots more. Books look great and complete like the real ones I have here. No web site but just a page of links. Just right click on what you want and then "Save Link As" to download so they don't open first as some are 50+ megs. They got lots. Enjoy.

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Have you ever tried using Spinosad for the bugs? I found that works extremely well for pretty much all the bugs I have come across.

Oh how I dread trimming. Luckily my little brother usually helps out but I have to pay him handsomely.

16 pots would be borderline full-time work for me.. I can't imagine all your trimming at the end of the season.. I'd need a team for sure LOL..

Thank you so much for the link. I'll definitely check it out later on. I'm usually better learning stuff through the videos though. Seems like whenever I try to read and learn, my ADD eventually kicks in pretty bad.

I could have sprayed and got rid of then when they were vegging but I've hunted thrips a few times before and always got rid of them without spraying but let a few get through I guess. No sprays of anything once in flower. I usually use neem and insecticidal soap when I absolutely have to and that always works.

I have 4 different strains going in there so they will be ready at different times. The Blue Heaven should start finishing in about 2 weeks and all being from seed they will be different times too. I've grown them many times and they finish anywhere from 51 - 68 days. (L.S.D. x Blueberry). Others are more Sativa and also from seed so 9 - 12 weeks for them.

The 5 bigger OG18s are a first for me so no idea when they will be ready but around 10 weeks is what I've read I think. One Purple Kush is pretty small so about an hour to trim it up. The TrimPro will help a lot and save my hands from cramping up so bad.

I don't read the grow books all the way from front to back but pick subjects I'm interested in and browse that area plus they're handy for reference when you're trying to come up with something to help in the grow room.

Here's the garden from a few days ago.