why are conservatives so concerned with other people's money?

NoDrama

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no, the order got put in at 3:28, and i got done eating and put change in the meter at 3:48. then i sat and waited. then i walked around, then i waited some more. finally, 5:30 came, and no sight of uber-hetero marines, so i went home.

i was thinking hemcock might be there at 4, and i was hungry, so that's when i showed up. i hung around until 5:30 to see if he would even reply to this thread, but he vanished.

mARINES are Pussies.
Meh, well you got at least something to show for it, i award you largest EPeen for the thread, Congrats, try not to step on it on the way out.
 

abandonconflict

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Emarines are pussies. Actual marine infantrymen are killing machines. I like the rivalry stuff to make fun but those boys do know how to party.
 

beenthere

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when did hemcock acknowledge or confirm my previously preferred time?

i played it safe so i wouldn't miss my little super-hetero buddy.

don't be mad because your partner in assplay and racism pussied out.
I'm not mad at anything, in fact my laptop is bouncing from laughter as I write this.
I just don't believe the crap you're trying to peddle, and for good reason.
Perhaps he backed out when he seen your wife with you, or maybe you were with a bunch of friends, I don't know and neither does anyone else but you and Hemlock.
 

kpmarine

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goddamn, the homo-erotic imagery is non-stop from you. did you also learn how to be a major homosexual in the marines or something?
You know what's funny? I have never met a Marine that took a joke about their homosexuality seriously. We invented "Gay chicken" for goodness sake.
 

NoDrama

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If it were me, I would Most definitely meet you there, I think we would get along great and could sample each other's Meds. Plus Long Island teas are my favorite drink of all.
 

beenthere

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If it were me, I would Most definitely meet you there, I think we would get along great and could sample each other's Meds. Plus Long Island teas are my favorite drink of all.
Not me, don't get me wrong i love to drink but I wouldn't want to be sued.
 

UncleBuck

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I'm not mad at anything, in fact my laptop is bouncing from laughter as I write this.
I just don't believe the crap you're trying to peddle, and for good reason.
Perhaps he backed out when he seen your wife with you, or maybe you were with a bunch of friends, I don't know and neither does anyone else but you and Hemlock.
my wife gets in tomorrow, hence why i have chores to do.

keep making excuses for your buddy who went AWOL, maybe he'll let you play gay chicken with him later on.
 

abandonconflict

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All Marines are Infantrymen, its the Creed of the Corps, Every Marine a rifleman.
It may be the creed and indeed the average marine is tougher than the average from the other services but marine cooks are not prepared like infantrymen. Not in the current era.
 

UncleBuck

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Not me, don't get me wrong i love to drink but I wouldn't want to be sued.
you'd only get sued if you exhausted your mental faculties (that would happen with 4 minutes) AND decided that you should fight your facts into being correct. that's what hemcock implied was gonna happen.

looking back, he did express homicidal ideation towards me, many times talking about the bullet that would end my life. i'm not sure it was a good idea to meet him at all, which is why i chose a public place that was among the fanciest in portland, or at least the most well known.
 

NoDrama

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Not me, don't get me wrong i love to drink but I wouldn't want to be sued.
Oh c'mon, why would you visit violence over something so stupid as a disagreement over politics. Get 200 people together and not one will agree wholly with another. The arguments are what help us see other's points of view. Buck aint gonna sue anyone who just came to talk and drink.

Besides, tight jeans interest me, gals round these parts wear bib overalls, not appealing.
 

NoDrama

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but marine cooks are not prepared like infantrymen. Not in the current era.
HAHAHA that is no shit, good god the cooks were absolutley HORRIBLE!!!! The potatoes had weevils in them that would crawl out when you cut the potato open. The bread had nuts and bolts baked into it because the machine was shedding parts, the meat had to be boiled before human consumption as it was USDA Grade D beef, shoe leather was better than steak. Coffee would melt your spoon and your gut. Had to wipe the rat droppings off the small cartons of milk before you could open them.

Good times, OOOOOH FUCKING RAHHHH!

The Mid Rats was good though, because it was cooked to order breakfast and simple fare for those Marines working 6PM to 6AM. Hard to fuck up omelletes and toast.
 

BigNBushy

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You know what irks me? When I create $100 of value, and then some prick in a suit who does nothing of consequence comes and takes 70 of it because he's the "boss". Another thing that irks me is tax cuts for the wealthy, since that's just a redistribution of wealth from the middle class to the upper class, which has no need for it, just greed. It also irks me when I see people working 60 hours a week and living in poverty. I'm also irked when I hear about people who are bankrupted by medical expenses because healthcare in this country is still considered a service, and not a basic human right like a truly civilized society would embrace.

So to be honest, I don't think there's nothing wrong with taxes, as long as they're going to provide for neediest and most vulnerable in society and not for corporate welfare or politically motivated wars.
This is such a load of horse shit...

1) That empty suit does plenty I imagine. Your example is rather sparse on details, but it sounds like a situation where you (an employee) does something that someone (a customer) pays $100 for. Then some prick (the business owner) gives you a $30 commission or something. How can you say he does nothing of consequence? Sounds like he provides the place of business, probably pays for advertisement, and assumes all the risk (if business goes south, he loses his investment, if an employee fucks up, he is liable) while you just rake in a paycheck. You say he is a prick, he might call you a short sighted, ignorant, ungrateful sack of shit.

2) How does the government taking less money from rich people constitute distributing wealth from the poor to the rich? I don't understand why liberals think that taking 35% of a rich persons salary instead of 40 or 50 per cent constitutes screwing poor folks? Considering that the very low income earners get more back on their refund checks than they pay in, and middle-bracket earners pay considerably less than 35%. Defies all logic.

3) I know plenty of folks working 2 jobs who are still poor. Most of this can be traced back to poor decisions they have made. I'll use myself for example. Buck likes to ride my ass about being a recovering heroin addict. No doubt I will be paying for my addiction for years to come. If, God forbid, I were to relapse, survive, get clean again after a long time back out there, I too might be 45 years old working two jobs and being broke as fuck. It will suck, but it will be my fault. Im not saying all those folks are junkies. However, I would feel confident in saying that if you ask them, and they are honest, there will be some poor choice they made that has held them back in their life. Maybe they had a kid at 17 years old. Seeing folks that are in poverty is sad, but it is part of the human condition. Every society that has ever lived has had poverty. The poor in this country, by and large, have heat and air, televisions, refrigerators, and cell phones. I think our society is doing pretty well in the poverty department.

4) What else could it be? A right, you say? Lets look at some rights. Right to free speech. No one needs to do anything in order for you to practice this right. In fact, action by others would only be required to deprive you of this right. The same could be said of all other rights (at least the ones I can think of right now.) For sake of a thorough argument, however, let me assume that there is a right that both you, the Supreme Court, and I agree is indeed a right, that requires action on the part of others for you one to enjoy. It is very likely that the person who would need to act would only have to do so in specific circumstances. Such a person is likely a police officer, a common carrier perhaps, or maybe even military. But here is a fly in the ointment. These rights are to society, not the individual. Sure there are some interactions with individuals here, but thats only because society is made up of individuals. After a disaster like Hurricane Katrina triage centers are set up where the injured are brought and treated. They are not charged.

So, what does making health care a right mean? It means then that doctors, nurses, hospital owners and the entire medical industry is obligated to treat you. This means, then, that you have an enforceable claim on a portion of their life. In my view, your right to healthcare infringes on their already established rights. You would basically force the medical industry to treat you, and what, depend on the charity of some of those they serve to eek out a living? Oh, the government would pay them, you say. Fine, well, first off, I doubt they would make as much money as they do now, so there goes a big reason specialize. My sister-in-law is some kind of super special surgeon. I think she had it rougher that John McCain had it in the Hanoi Hilton while she was in residency. She makes uber bank. I doubt the government would pay her that much.

Furthermore, it doesn't make it OK to claim the efforts and services of another as something owed to you so long as the government pays them. And yes, it is completely different than having an insurance company pay them on your behalf. Its still a service with the insurance company, not a right you have coming to you by virtue of your tax dollars, or the tax dollars of others.

TL/DR everything you said makes a good bumper sticker, but anyone who believes this shit or has your opinions has serious cognitive deficiencies.
 

beenthere

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Oh c'mon, why would you visit violence over something so stupid as a disagreement over politics. Get 200 people together and not one will agree wholly with another. The arguments are what help us see other's points of view. Buck aint gonna sue anyone who just came to talk and drink.

Besides, tight jeans interest me, gals round these parts wear bib overalls, not appealing.
I was being facetious and I wouldn't put myself in that position in the first place, well maybe 15 years ago I might have been that stupid.
Even if I did, if it went past four minutes, I'd have to ask for a time out!
 

abandonconflict

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HAHAHA that is no shit, good god the cooks were absolutley HORRIBLE!!!! The potatoes had weevils in them that would crawl out when you cut the potato open. The bread had nuts and bolts baked into it because the machine was shedding parts, the meat had to be boiled before human consumption as it was USDA Grade D beef, shoe leather was better than steak. Coffee would melt your spoon and your gut. Had to wipe the rat droppings off the small cartons of milk before you could open them.

Good times, OOOOOH FUCKING RAHHHH!

The Mid Rats was good though, because it was cooked to order breakfast and simple fare for those Marines working 6PM to 6AM. Hard to fuck up omelletes and toast.
Good thing about airborne units is access to airforce chowhalls.
 
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