Why use Nuts at all

Hi,

I have no experience yet. So this is a rather stupid question, sry.

But I wonder whats this all about with these nuts and 100 components.
Why not just use some quality plant soil. I mean all sorts of plants with fruits grow easily in that, and Canna is just a plant too, isnt it?

Is it because it increases yield or u dont want to gamble in any way or does this plant have some uber requirements?

Why do you eat?

I mean good soil is full of nutrients and all plants grow perfectly in it in my garden...so thats not really the answer i was looking for

lax123 said:

I mean good soil is full of nutrients and lots of plants grow perfectly in it...so thats not really the answer i was looking for

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it's a choice thing, as you mention good soil is full of nutes.

some soil runs out of nutes in late bloom so they need to be topped up.

some people grow in a sterile medium (coco, rockwool, hydroton) these contain no nutrients at all so we add the nutrients in whatever way we see fit. if you can see the plant needs nitrogen you add it and so on.........

but i may add that is one of the noobiest questions i have read on this forum.

i grow indoors so i do not like taking dirt into my house, then have to throw it away when i have used up all the nutrients in it. also dirt weighs a lot when wet so yet another reason not to use it.

There is most likely a distinction between plants which simply bloom into flowers than those that will grow large quantities of "fruit". Some plants will also have very different nutritional requirements than others. There is a reason people use compost and such.

Cannabis certainly seems to be able to grow naturally, but people grow cannabis with the aim of the biggest yield they can realistically obtain, and as such, adding more nutrients to the soil is common practice, be it a bottle of biobizz, or throwing some charcoal into the soil.

And just remember, people use bottles nutrients for all kinds of houseplants etc when they want them to grow to their potential.

In short, it's simply the question of what do you want from your cannabis plant. Most people want a good yield, so most people use nutrient supplements.

Thx for your answers.

but i may add that is one of the noobiest questions i have read on this Forum.

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In the past i had some palms, growing nicely for 7 years. someone told me i need to give them some nuts, i used them exactly as explained on the back of the bottle...plants got burned, so im a little bit scared.

If I have no Problem with takin dirt into my house, would u recommend to just use quality soil.
-all from a beginners perspective.
As im a beginner, i guess I will have a lot of other Problems too, so i dont want more of them.
Also i have a compost, so I guess I should use it?

ghb said:

then have to throw it away when i have used up all the nutrients in it. also dirt weighs a lot when wet so yet another reason not to use it.

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umm you do know if you stick all the roots and foliage in a lime-water misted container you get compost, there are carts for moving it. its self replicating, so you will never run out.

lax123 said:

I mean good soil is full of nutrients and all plants grow perfectly in it in my garden...so thats not really the answer i was looking for

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It is. We eat food for the nutrients. You plant needs nutrients. Your average "good soil" will get most plants 1 month or so before it is depleted, unless the soil was preloaded with these nutrients.

Yeah, there's a recipe for a feedless grow soil/soilless medium out there, start with (organic or not) base soil that has 3 wk - 1 mos supply of food (like FF OF) and then "super soil" it with added nutes (blood/bone/kelp meals, dolomite azomite etc.) and use the richer mix at bottom can reportedly feed through harvest.

Myself (very first grow, so practically worthless), I've used almost no food through 7 weeks of veg (two transplants up to new FFOF soil/perlite/etc. provided sufficient food so far - solo cup 2 wks; 1 gal 2.5 wks; 2.5 wks ago into 3 gal or bigger) and just changed to 12/12 a few days ago and just top dressed with some time releaed food (Osmocote plus) - which they'll start getting next time they get watered I guess.

Haven't made the 'subcool' supersoil yet (but made some of my own mix from scratch: sph. peat/perlite/worm castings base at 2:2:1 or something, plus all the goodies, mixed 1/3 each with FFOF and FFHappy Frog or FFLW, depends on the batch). Recipe's findable and more than one person here tells of a grow they did with it.

thx,

base soil that has 3 wk - 1 mos supply of food (like FF OF)

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Sry Im noob and not english, whats wk and mos? and FF and OF?

I have have large amounts of homemade compost, so I could mix it in any percentage with soil.

Which percentages would you use?
Would I still be needing this Perlite and wormcastings and other stuff?

I know nothing, so if you tell me I should get it...

Your average "good soil" will get most plants 1 month or so before it is depleted

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I dont know, i grow 1m tomatoes in it, bearing lots of fruit...its been much longer then one month and they dont look like they lack anything. I thought tomatoes r like nut suckers, but maybe im wrong.

lax123 said:

thx,

Sry Im noob and not english, whats wk and mos? and FF and OF?

I have have large amounts of homemade compost, so I could mix it in any percentage with soil.

Which percentages would you use?
Would I still be needing this Perlite and wormcastings and other stuff?

I know nothing, so if you tell me I should get it...


I dont know, i grow 1m tomatoes in it, bearing lots of fruit...its been much longer then one month and they dont look like they lack anything. I thought tomatoes r like nut suckers, but maybe im wrong.

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Sorry.

FF OF : FoxFarms Ocean Forrest, an excellent dirt for growing weed (organic, and reported to have enough plant food for 3 weeks (wks) to 1 month (abbreviated as mo. or mos.).

Don't know if ganga (herb) eats more food than tomatos, do tomatos sit on the vine for 8 weeks or more?

I don't have any advice for soil recipes that use compost instead of organic nutes (like I mentioned, the blood meal, bone meal, kelp meal, alfafa is the food, but you can get that from chemical plant salts or compost, I just don't have any good advice, just google a bit and you *will* some recipes with compost.

Perlite is generally a good additive to any soil or soilless medium you're mixing - Perlite does not retain water (opposite of, say, peat moss which has great absorbant properties) and is good for beginners (like myself) who tend to overwater. But logic says if you mixed 50/50% of Perlite and FFOF, that the food in the FFOF would only last 1/2 as long, right? So more perlite will help your drainage, but mean less total food in a 5 gallon pot (for e.g.), and also mean you will have to water more often. But OTOH you are less likely to drown your plant. So Perlite (many also add or substitute Vermiculite, but they are not exactly the same thing) is completely optional. Many growers add up to 50/50 perlite if the soil they mix with is dense, heavy soil.

The earth worm castings (EWC) are just a great source of organic nutrient potential, much like the meals etc. I've read that it takes at least 2 weeks for many organic sorces of food to become available for uptake by roots. I don't know if EWC has a NPK rating of any consistency, but I did like the recipe that started with Peat/Perlite (if you stop there, it has zero food! and needs some Dolomite just to get started) and mixed with piles of EWC, then added organics. I am experimenting so that after a half-dozen grows in next couple of years I will actually know something, not be relying on credibility of others.

Good luck amigo.

thx,
I appreciate that.