With Democrats like these who needs Republicans?

ttystikk

ttystikk

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SneekyNinja said:
You don't have an opinion, you simply believe anything you see on YouTube.

Cos you're a dumb cuck who's too dumb to even realize he's dumb.
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Derp. You just missed every one of hundreds of posts detailing my positions and their underlying logic.

Meanwhile your favorite words are cuck and flapjack. You're a credit to your discredited party.

Keep sitting and spinning, Stinkydigit.
 
SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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ttystikk said:
Derp. You just missed every one of hundreds of posts detailing my positions and their underlying logic.

Meanwhile your favorite words are cuck and flapjack. You're a credit to your discredited party.

Keep sitting and spinning, Stinkydigit.
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Like I've time to read all the words you swallow and then vomit forth onto the forum.

I'd rather read datasheets, and that's pretty fucking boring but at least I'd learn something factual.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
How would you know what my opinions are? You don't take the time to listen.

Enjoy your echo chamber.
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I merely repeated back to you what you had already posted. How could I have done that if I weren't listening? Your stated opinion is contained in what you wrote. I don't presume to know what you are thinking but I can know what you wrote.

Attributing low voter turnout to "the system" as the end of all discussion into why Colorado has such an abysmal turnout compared to Oregon is an example of how you end most discussion with your cynicism. This is a documented and verifiable fact, not opinion. I'm glad that I was able to get you to look further into the problem and identify issues with voter registration. Perhaps there are other causes. You need to open up to searching for truth and not close yourself to learning opportunities with false belief.
 
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SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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Fogdog said:
I merely repeated back to you what you had already posted. How could I have done that if I weren't listening? Your stated opinion is contained in what you wrote. I don't presume to know what you are thinking but I can know what you wrote.

Attributing low voter turnout to "the system" and then ending all discussion into why Colorado has such an abysmal turnout compared to Oregon is an example of how you end discussion with cynicism. This is a documented and verifiable fact, not opinion. I'm glad that I was able to get you to look further into the problem and identify issues with voter registration. Perhaps there are other causes. You need to open up to searching for truth and not close yourself to learning opportunities with false belief.
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The irony of it discussing an echo chamber, lol.

Guess who taught him that term?
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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SneekyNinja said:
The irony of it discussing an echo chamber, lol.

Guess who taught him that term?
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The first I heard of the term was in a description of the right wing radio propaganda machine where each and every day, multiple right wing nut show hosts repeated the same shit all day long. The article called it the right wing echo chamber.

What are you referring to?
 
Ripped Farmer

Ripped Farmer

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Fogdog said:
Ah yes, pumping gas. Spandy hated it and claimed people were always spilling gas on his truck. Too funny that. I can only imagine how shitty he treated people to get that treatment.

We changed that law beginning this year so that in rural communities with small populations station can be self serve and people are freaking out. Some are, at least, and it's become a national joke.

A lot of people like sitting in their car and letting somebody pump the gas. It's also touted as a jobs-saving measure. The cost of fuel isn't noticeably affected. It provides jobs for college students and people who need the money. So, overall not such a bad thing. It does take time to get used to it if you are used to pumping your own gas.

Rather than crab about the system, maybe you should start opening your mind about alternatives rather stick to your close minded cynical belief. I know you won't but just saying, your kneejerk reaction about the system keeping people down so they don't vote was an unhelpful logical dead end. Also not true.
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I like the new law for Oregon. I noticed many fuel stops are keeping the attendants on the clock during daylight hours and you can opt for help or not. I like that for the people that just getting in and out of their vehicle can be a hell of a chore. I have a knee surgery planned next month so I'll be using that service again soon.

Some of those people really did slosh the fuel down the sides though. Ive had it happen after giving them a couple bucks for washing my front screen. Some people really just dont care and could be the particular in many situations as to why they are pumping gas in the first place. Or maybe they own the joint, make millions a year but their cat was ran over that morning and their head was elsewhere. Who knows. Either way, I like getting out and fueling up my vehicle. Even with all the warning bells and whistles and still like to visually inspect.

And I never see college kids working in town at fuel stops. Seems more like people in their 30s-50s that work those jobs. Years ago it was full of young kids running around, especially back in the full service days.
 
SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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Fogdog said:
The first I heard of the term was in a description of the right wing radio propaganda machine where each and every day, multiple right wing nut show hosts repeated the same shit all day long. The article called it the right wing echo chamber.

What are you referring to?
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Its a psychological phenomena whereby people of similar beliefs tend to group together on social media and only read/discuss things that they already believe to be true, causing massive confirmation bias.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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SneekyNinja said:
Its a psychological phenomena whereby people of similar beliefs tend to group together on social media and only read/discuss things that they already believe to be true, causing massive confirmation bias.
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Except somehow you and the others are magically immune to it..

I read all different sources of information, independent and mainstream, left and right, and develop my own opinion based on the collaboration of evidence collected through that endeavour, and dare any of my opinions be either more liberal than "the collectives", I'm labeled some kind of extreme leftist, pie in the sky liberal. Dare any of my opinions venture more moderate, well obviously it's because I'm just a red-pill, Trump supporting conservative.. Simultaneously, somehow..

The problem with this kind of analysis of political ideology is that it fails to actually address any of the points being made. It's a tactic primarily and exclusively used to dismiss arguments you simply don't like; TL;DR... "But did you watch the video?!?".. These are ways to dismiss actually addressing the questions you find too difficult to answer, which I find to be extremely sad. But as your side has constantly repeated, none of you are actually here to get questions answered or share ideas, you're here to troll.

The main problem I have with your faction of the Democratic party is that you focus solely on social issues and completely ignore economic ones. So if we get a black president, while African Americans still earn less than white Americans or go to prison at a significantly higher rate than white Americans while committing the exact same crimes, you mark it up as a win. I don't. Obama's administration did OK, much better than Bush Jr. and Trump so far, no doubt about it, but black people still earn less than white people, women too. What good is it to talk about racism without addressing the earnings and the incomes of minorities; the single leading factor involved in the kind of blind economic oppression they still face to this day, after Obama?

Democrats have to address the needs of the poor and minorities if they hope to have any chance of energizing an electorate come 2018 and 2020
 
SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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Padawanbater2 said:
Except somehow you and the others are magically immune to it..

I read all different sources of information, independent and mainstream, left and right, and develop my own opinion based on the collaboration of evidence collected through that endeavour, and dare any of my opinions be either more liberal than "the collectives", I'm labeled some kind of extreme leftist, pie in the sky liberal. Dare any of my opinions venture more moderate, well obviously it's because I'm just a red-pill, Trump supporting conservative.. Simultaneously, somehow..

The problem with this kind of analysis of political ideology is that it fails to actually address any of the points being made. It's a tactic primarily and exclusively used to dismiss arguments you simply don't like; TL;DR... "But did you watch the video?!?".. These are ways to dismiss actually addressing the questions you find too difficult to answer, which I find to be extremely sad. But as your side has constantly repeated, none of you are actually here to get questions answered or share ideas, you're here to troll.

The main problem I have with your faction of the Democratic party is that you focus solely on social issues and completely ignore economic ones. So if we get a black president, while African Americans still earn less than white Americans or go to prison at a significantly higher rate than white Americans while committing the exact same crimes, you mark it up as a win. I don't. Obama's administration did OK, much better than Bush Jr. and Trump so far, no doubt about it, but black people still earn less than white people, women too. What good is it to talk about racism without addressing the earnings and the incomes of minorities; the single leading factor involved in the kind of blind economic oppression they still face to this day, after Obama?

Democrats have to address the needs of the poor and minorities if they hope to have any chance of energizing an electorate come 2018 and 2020
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I tried to read it, but it became tl;Dr when you started jacking yourself off.

You got trapped in an echo chamber, it's obvious from your inability to accept that Bernie simply didn't have the votes.

Your echo chamber of confirmation bias had you believe that "everyone" wanted Bernie because that's all you were exposed to.

You can tell someone like me isn't suffering from the same phenomena because we can adjust our preconceived notions when exposed to fact.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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SneekyNinja said:
Your echo chamber of confirmation bias had you believe that "everyone" wanted Bernie because that's all you were exposed to.
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That's pretty easily demonstrably false. Every piece of objective evidence, even today, says Sanders is the most popular politician in the country, every piece of objective evidence says Sanders is the frontrunner in 2020

You're the one denying reality

And he's already assembling a team to run again in 2020. So knowing his record, what he stands for and what he says and supports; universal healthcare, universal college, a living wage, a new new deal, an end to the 8 current US conflicts abroad, etc., who aside from him do you see as leading the Democratic field in 2020?
 
Padawanbater2

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Meanwhile, The Intercept just released a bombshell report about how the DCCC is actively trying to stifle progressive candidates chances ahead of primary elections in favor of more corporate, business friendly candidates; The Dead Enders
 
dagwood45431

dagwood45431

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Padawanbater2 said:
Except somehow you and the others are magically immune to it..

I read all different sources of information, independent and mainstream, left and right, and develop my own opinion based on the collaboration of evidence collected through that endeavour, and dare any of my opinions be either more liberal than "the collectives", I'm labeled some kind of extreme leftist, pie in the sky liberal. Dare any of my opinions venture more moderate, well obviously it's because I'm just a red-pill, Trump supporting conservative.. Simultaneously, somehow..

The problem with this kind of analysis of political ideology is that it fails to actually address any of the points being made. It's a tactic primarily and exclusively used to dismiss arguments you simply don't like; TL;DR... "But did you watch the video?!?".. These are ways to dismiss actually addressing the questions you find too difficult to answer, which I find to be extremely sad. But as your side has constantly repeated, none of you are actually here to get questions answered or share ideas, you're here to troll.

The main problem I have with your faction of the Democratic party is that you focus solely on social issues and completely ignore economic ones. So if we get a black president, while African Americans still earn less than white Americans or go to prison at a significantly higher rate than white Americans while committing the exact same crimes, you mark it up as a win. I don't. Obama's administration did OK, much better than Bush Jr. and Trump so far, no doubt about it, but black people still earn less than white people, women too. What good is it to talk about racism without addressing the earnings and the incomes of minorities; the single leading factor involved in the kind of blind economic oppression they still face to this day, after Obama?

Democrats have to address the needs of the poor and minorities if they hope to have any chance of energizing an electorate come 2018 and 2020
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Naive.
 
SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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Padawanbater2 said:
That's pretty easily demonstrably false. Every piece of objective evidence, even today, says Sanders is the most popular politician in the country, every piece of objective evidence says Sanders is the frontrunner in 2020

You're the one denying reality

And he's already assembling a team to run again in 2020. So knowing his record, what he stands for and what he says and supports; universal healthcare, universal college, a living wage, a new new deal, an end to the 8 current US conflicts abroad, etc., who aside from him do you see as leading the Democratic field in 2020?
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Delusional.

He'll be in his mid eighties in 2020.

Harris is a real progressive that actually gets legislation passed...

What has Bernie got passed in his whole career?
 
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