World of Seeds Landrace strains?

brotherjericho

brotherjericho

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So...who has grown and sampled any of the following WoS landrace strains? I am very interested in growing some landrace strains indoors in the future. Thanks!

* Wild Thailand
* African Kwazulu
* Pakistan Valley (I've seen some positive reviews of this)
* Kilimanjaro
* Columbian Gold (may be a challenge indoors in my smaller space)
* Brazil Amazonia
 
Natural Gas

Natural Gas

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Hey again bro, I think you are aware I have a passing interest in landrace equatorial strains...If you are willing to invest the time and have indoor space concerns you may want to check into Plant Growth Regulators, PGRs for short. Often used in the house plant (container grow) industry to promote bushy plants...One I have used in the past is "Bonsai"...Can control inter-nodal stretching...There are other commercial PGRs. I have only tried "Bonsai"...I was into it for a brief period but there are other factors that come into play that were objectionable for me...Otherwise, unless you are into coming to terms with hormone regulation, think here PMS and its complications, the only strain I know of on your list for the hobbyist is Pak Valley...The others require a career change to indoor octopus wrestling...FWIW
 
MarWan

MarWan

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I've ordered Pakistan Valley by WOS, 10 regs, only 3 made it above the soil (the ones I scratched with sand paper) got 1 male, hopefully a female, and a little one that might be a male.
the male & female where sprouted in soil (organic mix) on mar 01-2013.
The growth is really slow, I'm currently collecting pollen, and waiting for the female to get bigger so I can take clones (first try ever) then flower her and use the pollen to get more seeds.
Its pretty sensitive to nutes, and showed signs of mag def.
for info, I've grown bagseed indoors a couple times only, and the Pak Val are my first run with branded seeds.

good luck
 
brotherjericho

brotherjericho

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MarWan said:
I've ordered Pakistan Valley by WOS, 10 regs, only 3 made it above the soil (the ones I scratched with sand paper) got 1 male, hopefully a female, and a little one that might be a male.
the male & female where sprouted in soil (organic mix) on mar 01-2013.
The growth is really slow, I'm currently collecting pollen, and waiting for the female to get bigger so I can take clones (first try ever) then flower her and use the pollen to get more seeds.
Its pretty sensitive to nutes, and showed signs of mag def.
for info, I've grown bagseed indoors a couple times only, and the Pak Val are my first run with branded seeds.

good luck
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Thanks, but I don't concern myself with reports of low germination rates unless I see several poor reports. You could have just been given some old stock.
 
Natural Gas

Natural Gas

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brotherjericho said:
Some of the ones on the list are relatively short flowering African sativas, not sure of the stretch in them.
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The "Columbian Gold" a friend of mine grows in the Shenandoah Valley outdoor about Lat 37...It is a hybrid, not landrace, and it hits 14ft...Starts indoor in March transplants outdoor June 21, "Solstice". We pray for few caterpillars and no frost until Thanksgiving to harvest...If you are into bringing "wildlife" indoors go for it...Super Silver Haze or Somantra are still a challenge indoor but I find more satisfaction with less frustration...That's just me...Go have yourself a bunch of fun a learn a lot...I look forward to reading about it...Like I wrote before, I love my time in the Marine Corp and my time growing Malawi Gold indoor but I won't do either again...FWIW

OMG...Forgot to list Flying Dutchman Original Haze...Based on what I have done in the past and what I enjoy from an "old school" introduction to counter-culture TFD O H I would recommend as required growing for those who care about my opinion...Again that opinion is only worth what you pay for it...FWIW
 
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kindnug

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If you do it right, they aren't so bad.
Veg the bean plants until you can take a few clones + immediately flower the "mom's" to determine males/females(then destroy/reveg them)
Keep the female clones, toss the male clones. Flower rooted clones only + scrog will do well with them.
 
hsfkush

hsfkush

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Natural Gas said:
The "Columbian Gold" a friend of mine grows in the Shenandoah Valley outdoor about Lat 37...It is a hybrid, not landrace, and it hits 14ft...Starts indoor in March transplants outdoor June 21, "Solstice". We pray for few caterpillars and no frost until Thanksgiving to harvest...If you are into bringing "wildlife" indoors go for it...Super Silver Haze or Somantra are still a challenge indoor but I find more satisfaction with less frustration...That's just me...Go have yourself a bunch of fun a learn a lot...I look forward to reading about it...Like I wrote before, I love my time in the Marine Corp and my time growing Malawi Gold indoor but I won't do either again...FWIW

OMG...Forgot to list Flying Dutchman Original Haze...Based on what I have done in the past and what I enjoy from an "old school" introduction to counter-culture TFD O H I would recommend as required growing for those who care about my opinion...Again that opinion is only worth what you pay for it...FWIW
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I recently smoked some GeForce grown by a friend which came from Flying Dutchman seeds. It was a pretty damn good smoke.
 
Jogro

Jogro

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Tricks/tips for growing outdoor sativas in limited height indoor spaces

-Everything you do is to control vertical height. Anticipate a full 3x stretch in height during flowering, and some strains can do a LOT more than that.

-Use wide shallow pots.

-Either put rooted clones right into 12-12 flower or run 12-12 from ceed. (Starting from clones is better, if you have the ability to do that).

-Did I say 12-12? Consider running 11 hours on -13 off to speed up flowering times a bit.

-Train early, train often. Doesn't matter exactly HOW you do it, just do it: SCROG, spiral trellis, bending (ie "low stress training"), tying down tops, combinations of above. You want as much of the plants growth to be HORIZONTAL as possible.

-Anticipate hermies. . .they're common in many landrace sativa lines.
 
brotherjericho

brotherjericho

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Some of the sativas are listed as having much shorter flowering times. Yes, I know you can't always go by this, but WoS seems to particularly mention that they are shorter flowering pure sativas. Of the list, the short flowering ones are Kilimanjaro (60-70 days) and African Kwazulu (55-60 days).
 
Natural Gas

Natural Gas

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brotherjericho said:
Some of the sativas are listed as having much shorter flowering times. Yes, I know you can't always go by this, but WoS seems to particularly mention that they are shorter flowering pure sativas. Of the list, the short flowering ones are Kilimanjaro (60-70 days) and African Kwazulu (55-60 days).
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Can not speak to those strains though I would suspect them to be hybridized to some degree...Again, I have no clue and only one sure way to find out...The road to success is paved with failure...Live and learn so to speak...Be ready to extract male flowering from plants you have selected as females...These are not hermaphrodites. They are an expression of a dioecious plant...I have grown for a while and never had a hermaphrodite. That is both sexes expressed in the same flower. The male flower is easily removed, I use a wet cotton ball. Just check the plant often. Even if you miss one and it pops you get some s33ds...It has never been something I get too bummed about...Hermies you read about on these forum pages I would suspect are monecious male flowering traits of strains not stabilized...Anyway, that's enough botany for a Sunday morning...FWIW

BTW...Once I remove the male flowers from my plant I find that they don't usually come back...IMO not worth throwing out a plant I have 4-6 wks TLC invested in because today's pollen chuckers are producing "fire" that has not been stabilized through eight generations of selection...BWDIK???
 
kiwi

kiwi

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I got gifted 1 free seed of Pakistan Valley and it was by far the slowest growing seed I have ever come across, it was still in seedling stage while other seeds of the exact same age were put into flower... meaning I waited for fucking ages for the seedling to grow when most people would have given up on it, but in actual fact it turned out to be a fucking awesome strain and the patience was highly worth it.

Although it might not have that OG level flavor, it is still a yummy smoke with a very powerful and clear high

The plant itself is also awesome, super strong, super frosty, large trichs, vigorous and did i say super strong?

Recommended for the price - will definitely look at adding more WOS genetics in the future
 
cannakis

cannakis

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Natural Gas said:
Hey again bro, I think you are aware I have a passing interest in landrace equatorial strains...If you are willing to invest the time and have indoor space concerns you may want to check into Plant Growth Regulators, PGRs for short. Often used in the house plant (container grow) industry to promote bushy plants...One I have used in the past is "Bonsai"...Can control inter-nodal stretching...There are other commercial PGRs. I have only tried "Bonsai"...I was into it for a brief period but there are other factors that come into play that were objectionable for me...Otherwise, unless you are into coming to terms with hormone regulation, think here PMS and its complications, the only strain I know of on your list for the hobbyist is Pak Valley...The others require a career change to indoor octopus wrestling...FWIW
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or just use lots of phosphorus...
 
cannakis

cannakis

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Natural Gas said:
The "Columbian Gold" a friend of mine grows in the Shenandoah Valley outdoor about Lat 37...It is a hybrid, not landrace, and it hits 14ft...Starts indoor in March transplants outdoor June 21, "Solstice". We pray for few caterpillars and no frost until Thanksgiving to harvest...If you are into bringing "wildlife" indoors go for it...Super Silver Haze or Somantra are still a challenge indoor but I find more satisfaction with less frustration...That's just me...Go have yourself a bunch of fun a learn a lot...I look forward to reading about it...Like I wrote before, I love my time in the Marine Corp and my time growing Malawi Gold indoor but I won't do either again...FWIW

OMG...Forgot to list Flying Dutchman Original Haze...Based on what I have done in the past and what I enjoy from an "old school" introduction to counter-culture TFD O H I would recommend as required growing for those who care about my opinion...Again that opinion is only worth what you pay for it...FWIW
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haha i like that, been in.Corps and grown sativas indoor, but wont do either again.! haha i love it!
 
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higher self

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Kilimanjaro at 42 days. Not my 1st time with this strain, out of 4 fem seeds no herms & 1-2 pheno's. I dont know about it being a landrace but its a good sativa, zippy high with some nice terps. After a long cure it reminded me of amnesia. We'll she how the Jaro's stack up to my other keeper sativas.

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CaptainZack

CaptainZack

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brotherjericho said:
So...who has grown and sampled any of the following WoS landrace strains? I am very interested in growing some landrace strains indoors in the future. Thanks!

* Wild Thailand
* African Kwazulu
* Pakistan Valley (I've seen some positive reviews of this)
* Kilimanjaro
* Columbian Gold (may be a challenge indoors in my smaller space)
* Brazil Amazonia
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i'v got these today in the post ... they 100% sativas ! any good anyone ? any tips and shit would be appreciated ... loves extra N etc etc
 
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higher self

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CaptainZack said:
i'v got these today in the post ... they 100% sativas ! any good anyone ? any tips and shit would be appreciated ... loves extra N etc etc
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The Kilimanjaro is easy to please, I run all organics. Haha I dont know of any sativa that loves extra nitrogen, I try to give them just enough. You can pretty much grow the Jaro like you would any other plant you have grown.

This is my Jaro at 56 days. These are Fems ordered regs but they sent a 10pack of fems instead. I wasnt complaining though I wouldnt mind a male as this is definitely a short flowering sativa.

Pheno 1

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Pheno 2 Clone

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Pheno 2 from seed

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CaptainZack

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higher self said:
The Kilimanjaro is easy to please, I run all organics. Haha I dont know of any sativa that loves extra nitrogen, I try to give them just enough. You can pretty much grow the Jaro like you would any other plant you have grown.

This is my Jaro at 56 days. These are Fems ordered regs but they sent a 10pack of fems instead. I wasnt complaining though I wouldnt mind a male as this is definitely a short flowering sativa.

Pheno 1

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Pheno 2 Clone

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Pheno 2 from seed

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u say short flowering, yea i saw that on the packet a couple week early.

these are 100% sativa ?
 
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