worlds highest THC auto?

Who cares if they're promo pics (which the first two are)? You asked for autos covered in triches, I delivered. I personally don't think the auto triangle looks like shit, but that's a subjective opinion (and we know you're biased against autos, most people are).

The Walter White isn't a clone; you can't effectively clone autos since clones have the same genetic life as the mother, and autos have set lifespan (you can't keep them in perma-veg like photos). Instead of assuming all I smoke is ditchweed, how about you educate yourself on autos before you trash talk them or criticize.

If the only reason you're in the auto subforum is to shit-talk autos, then you can just leave. If you're not here to offer anything productive or helpful, just to post your own bud and trash talk the rest, you're not needed or wanted. The entire rest of the site is fine for photo discussion.

You think autos are always shit and can't be any good? Fine, go think that and stick with photos and talk elsewhere. Nobody's forcing you to grow them, nobody's putting a gun to your head to make you smoke them. Personally, I think you're wrong, and I've seen and smoked enough results that aren't shitty and poor quality to know you're mistaken. Will every single auto strain result in rock-hard nugs and sky highs? No, but then again not every photo strain will either, and in BOTH cases it depends heavily on the grower's skill and equipment. You're not going to get decent bud from a photo if you burn it with too much nutes, give it too little light, and forget to water it.

Mr.Head said:

Grow something like Grape Stomper OG by Gage Green. Get off the barneys farm garbage and tell me it's not better then every single auto you've ever smoked by 100x.

I've grown auto's when I first started growing the best auto I grew was blue mystic by nirvana, it was fucking garbage but had a nice flavour. my $3 northern lights and big bud seeds produced better product then every single auto I grew. I am speaking from experience auto flowers are garbage.

Find me an auto that's as covered in trichomes as that. Shit most the autos i see posted around here barely even have trichomes on the buds. Tek is about the only one on this entire site I've seen impressive things from auto flowers with and I still think the dude could do a load better for himself

I gave a bunch of this Grape Stomper OG Bud away it was so strong. It stunk so bad the cops were called on me for walking around my neighborhood smoking a joint. #realcannabis

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that looks good lol, if you say so

StonedAgeTimeTraveler said:

Who cares if they're promo pics (which the first two are)? You asked for autos covered in triches, I delivered. I personally don't think the auto triangle looks like shit, but that's a subjective opinion (and we know you're biased against autos, most people are).

The Walter White isn't a clone; you can't effectively clone autos since clones have the same genetic life as the mother, and autos have set lifespan (you can't keep them in perma-veg like photos). Instead of assuming all I smoke is ditchweed, how about you educate yourself on autos before you trash talk them or criticize.

If the only reason you're in the auto subforum is to shit-talk autos, then you can just leave. If you're not here to offer anything productive or helpful, just to post your own bud and trash talk the rest, you're not needed or wanted. The entire rest of the site is fine for photo discussion.

You think autos are always shit and can't be any good? Fine, go think that and stick with photos and talk elsewhere. Nobody's forcing you to grow them, nobody's putting a gun to your head to make you smoke them. Personally, I think you're wrong, and I've seen and smoked enough results that aren't shitty and poor quality to know you're mistaken. Will every single auto strain result in rock-hard nugs and sky highs? No, but then again not every photo strain will either, and in BOTH cases it depends heavily on the grower's skill and equipment. You're not going to get decent bud from a photo if you burn it with too much nutes, give it too little light, and forget to water it.

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Walter White is a clone only line, the same as most of their strain names. I am wondering if the nugs are from the clone parents and not the auto child plant. I've never seen an auto with that much frost, very very few clone only lines have that level of trichome coverage.I did not say you can clone autos.

Triangle Kush is a clone only line as well, go look up pictures of the finished buds. 24 Karat is also a clone only strain, they changed the K to a C. Clever.

The issue I take with promo pics is they aren't honest, lots and lots of breeders don't post honest pictures of their plants, not saying it's just auto guys. Your plant looks great though and I agree with 99% of what you're saying.

weednurd420 said:

that looks good lol, if you say so

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Untrimmed drying nugs, you can't see past some fan leaves? lol. note trichome covered front and back of fan leaves.

Also those Grape Stomper OG's were 12/12 From seed more or less.

True, they got clone cuttings to start their lines. I don't know about all auto breeders, but mephisto breed from photos to autos over time, they don't just cross autos to get what they like. There's a lot more care taken to make sure the quality is there when it transitions over.

All the photos are taken of the auto itself, not the clone parent. I've bought direct from the farm and they're about the most upfront, honest breeder I've dealt with (it's just a 3 man operation in Spain, not a major breeder or bank). They're pretty well known on Autoflower Network (AFN) because of their honesty and integrity as breeders and effort to produce top-notch auto strains. They take several years to develop a line, so the Walter White and Triangle Kush only just came to market this year after being in the works since like, 2012.

Also, the non-promo pic isn't my grow, but another auto growers. Mine are just seedlings atm, and I'm more of a novice in growing so I doubt they'll be as sugar-frosted as the promos (though a lot of other Mephisto growers swear they're super easy, I don't believe anything till I see it, do it, or smoke it; safe practice in this world IMO).

Again, I can't speak to ALL auto breeders; I suspect there's some shady types out there doing everything they can to trick people (for example, the old "harvest in 6 to 8 weeks!" line is complete BULLSHIT unless you want tiny nugs and barely any triches). I was just trying to show not ALL autos are garbage. Can't speak to what the ratio of good to shit is though; I've also heard good things about Sweet Seeds and Heavyweight's auto lines.

I'm just saying why limit yourselves? and for what real gain? is it really a gain to run your lights 24/0 or 20/4? Or is it an unnecessary expense? When you're shopping for seeds there's no reason to say "oh I need autoflowers" unless you're putting them outside.

Why spend your time growing something that is a cross between Super good clone only A x Medium quality auto flower? When you can grow Super Good Clone Only A x Super Good Clone Only B for instance? Or selfed versions of clone only strains? The options go on for a while my friend and once you find that one that produces nugs like that Walter White pic you clone that lady and treat her right for years

Trichome coverage and potency is mostly genetics, gotta grow them properly of course but that should go without saying . If they are actually working their lines a bit to achieve well balanced crosses and not just working until they lock in the auto flower trait and selling it like so many others then good on them. Link me to your journal I'd love to follow along.

Some more 12/12from seed plants This one is a Northern Lights I grew a few years back when I was using synthetic nutrients and burnign the hell out of my plants


Big Bud *left Norther Lights *right


Big Bud *left Northern Lights *middle Pure AK clones *Right

There's a number of factors at play that make autoflowers a viable option.

In my personal case, I don't have a big enough box to keep separate flowering and vegging chambers, and autos give me the freedom to stagger plants in the same small stealth box without stressing them or causing issues. Also, autos tend to grow smaller than photos due to the ruderalis genes keeping them short (which is good for me, as my box can't be 6 feet tall either, so shorter plants are a pro for me). There's also a belief, though not backed by hard science yet, that the ruderalis genes keep roots short as well, helping autos to thrive in smaller than normal pots (since I can't use a nice 5 gallon pot, being able to get a zip or more off a plant in a 1 gallon pot is a big factor).

I use LEDs so cost isn't a factor for me; I can run 24 hours a day and not see more than a dollar or two increase over a 12/12 power bill (the LEDs are partly a cost concern, and partly because the no-heat light lets the plants grow right up to the light and not burn, increasing usable space).

I'm not saying photos aren't great; hell, if I had room for a 6 foot tall growbox I'd grow photos in a heartbeat. I'm just saying there's plenty of times where a person might find autos are a good fit for their needs and situation, especially in stealth grows like mine where space, complexity, and time frame are all critical concerns. There's quality auto genetics out there that make it feasible to grow them as well.

I haven't got a journal started on here yet, but will be in a few days or so. I'll send you a link when I do.

StonedAgeTimeTraveler said:

There's a number of factors at play that make autoflowers a viable option.

being able to get a zip or more off a plant in a 1 gallon pot is a big factor

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i get a lil over a oz a per gallon , a 3 gal will pull 3-4 usually " 24/0 in mostly soil less , chopping at week 10 " , ive ran 12/12 from seed a few times and its a waste of time IMO , there is still a veg period with most photoperiods even when 12/12 from seed

Here's a bud shot of an auto I worked

Yoda's Dragon Breath
Another auto I grew
Lemon Sherbery bred by Seraphim

Another

Auto have come a very long way! They are much more finicky to grow but once mastered you can find some real gems, autos I've found seem to help my ms greatly...
Now grant you I will give you that grape stomper is just purely INSANE I got some that was tested at 28%, no your not going to find an auto to match that... So why not have the best both of both world and have a puerperal harvest and grow both autos and photos that's how I been rolling....
Stayed Stoned

Edit Ive also grown a few of Mephistos gear and let me tell you, get it dialed in and it will rival many or most photos out there, mad legit gear... Love their stuff...

yodabuds said:

Now grant you I will give you that grape stomper is just purely INSANE I got some that was tested at 28%

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funny part is the auto haters dont hate on the the other 99.9999% of photo's that dont test that high .....
auto's have higher CBD is why they help with your MS , glad you have found something that helps you with that

tekdc911 said:

funny part is the auto haters dont hate on the the other 99.9999% of photo's that dont test that high .....
auto's have higher CBD is why they help with your MS , glad you have found something that helps you with that

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Come on now Tek that's just not true at all. There are tonnes of threads regarding Tangerine dream and other shit strains all over this website. The information is spread and the majority of people don't grow them.

The seed section is dedicated to sharing opinions on genetics, there's loads of opinions in there on photo plants that aren't up to par. That information is spread across the community so people don't waste their time growing them.

Think there's 5 orange hairs over the whole plant. This is the Fireballs I had posted earlier in the thread. 2 Gallon Organic soil.

She's only about 16-18 inches tall I'd say I'll grab a pic with a tape measure later this evening when lights come back on.

thinking at least 2-3 more still so who knows what she's going to do before then lol. Prolly get mold and rot I should have topped.

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Come on now Tek that's just not true at all. There are tonnes of threads regarding Tangerine dream and other shit strains all over this website. The information is spread and the majority of people don't grow them.

The seed section is dedicated to sharing opinions on genetics, there's loads of opinions in there on photo plants that aren't up to par. That information is spread across the community so people don't waste their time growing them.

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that test at 28% ???
i hope so otherwise youre just wasting your time growing it .........

tekdc911 said:

that test at 28% ???
i hope so otherwise youre just wasting your time growing it .........

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Sir I did not say mine tested at 28% that was Yoda who said he had some test at 28% I believe. I don't have testing available to me, the best I can do is say it was damn good. My one gripe was the yield was really low on those ones but the quality made up for it, in my opinion at least. Probably an OZ. a plant which wasn't very good at all I admit. The lowest I've had doing this but the best smoke.

Now dude I've shown you respect as I have seen you around for a long time there's no reason to be a bitch.

If I am wasting my time what are you doing? lol

Lol nah I said some grape stomper I got from the dispensary (they do the testing as I don't have it available to me either) was tested at 28%

I'd you don't like autos.

GET THE FUCK OFF AN AUTO THREAD!

Yes you can make cannabutter or hash from the trimmings of a good successful grow of good genetics.

IVE SEEN IT WITH MY OWN EYES!

EFF WHAT YOU GOTTA SAY.

Possibly auto Anesthesia, from Pyramid Seeds

GrowUrOwnDank said:

I'd you don't like autos.

GET THE FUCK OFF AN AUTO THREAD!

Yes you can make cannabutter or hash from the trimmings of a good successful grow of good genetics.

IVE SEEN IT WITH MY OWN EYES!

EFF WHAT YOU GOTTA SAY.

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Yeah I'm totally going to make a 12/12 from seed journal in the auto section just for you! I've successed much butt hurtz is this one!

Mr.Head said:

Yeah I'm totally going to make a 12/12 from seed journal in the auto section just for you! I've successed much butt hurtz is this one!

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There's no need to troll the entire sub-forum over one person; the rest of us have managed to discuss things like reasonable gentlemen (and women). It's obvious the angry one here was late to the party and skimmed, or he'd have seen we already moved past our disagreements on autos and had managed to end the discussion amicably.

I have a great paying job so I don't need to make money from growing and can afford any grow equipment I want to buy. With that being said, I'm a personal stash guy growing in a 3X3 tent inconspicuously in a spare room in my basement. One or two plants at a time keep me in more smoke than I know what to do with. I grow mainly autos because I can start a new seed at anytime without regard to light schedules. I don't give a shit about wearing out my equipment either. My stuff runs 20/4 everyday of the year and has done so for years. That's why I run autos in addition to the high CBD content. Not everyone has a desire to grow the absolute strongest weed just like not everyone has a desire to chug liquor other than alcoholics.