Would you work for a new (small) LP?

What is an inflated salary to you, being able to afford to go to the doctor? have kids? send them to school?
Afford any protein that isn;t in some horribly unhealthy takeaway snack?

And only union employees can afford those things? The vast majority do not belong to a union and manage to do all those things. The lack of manufacturing sectors here and in the States is largely because unions priced the labour out of reach and consumers wouldn't absorb the costs. I don't want this to get into an argument, you sound as passionate about unions as I am about not working for one. I'm not going to convince you to denounce unions and you'll never get me to endorse one - it's a stalemate! lol Cheers!

Not true, because China literally has factory villages, where you earn a pittance but at least have somewhere to sleep. They make everything we use.
Americans will never do this. Many employers today think that they can abuse their position of privilege like a cotton field owner in the 1800s.

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And only union employees can afford those things? The vast majority do not belong to a union and manage to do all those things. The lack of manufacturing sectors here and in the States is largely because unions priced the labour out of reach and consumers wouldn't absorb the costs. I don't want this to get into an argument, you sound as passionate about unions as I am about not working for one. I'm not going to convince you to denounce unions and you'll never get me to endorse one - it's a stalemate! lol Cheers!

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The lack of manufacturing is absolutely not sure to unionised labour costs. That's a false argument if there ever was one.

The trade agreements out in place that allowed manufacturers to move their plants to countries with poverty wages and tax havens is what destroyed American manufacturing.

Did big business craft a story to sell to the peasants so anger would be directed at someone else? They sure did. Those greedy union workers, living high on the hog! Not the greedy owners looking to squeeze even more money from the less fortunate.

It's really amazing that you would even fall for such thinly veiled fabrications. If you look at these 'right to work' states you can see how much lower standards of living become when the unions are broken up and chased out.

Your argument is that rich owners will pay well, simply because it's the right thing to do? Or people should get paid shitty? There's a fundamental ignorance of the economic history of North America for the last 30 years if you're genuinely convinced unions chose to lose jobs before taking pay cuts.

You need a strong reality check.

ANC said:

Not true, because China literally has factory villages, where you earn a pittance but at least have somewhere to sleep. They make everything we use.
Americans will never do this. Many employers today think that they can abuse their position of privilege like a cotton field owner in the 1800s.

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I think that's what he's advocating, chatel slavery.

It's bizarre to believe people have to be treated in such a manner in order to create consumer goods that are affordable. Business has done a masterful job of deceiving the masses for decades, convincing them that if they want nice things, someone needs to suffer for it.

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I think that's what he's advocating, chatel slavery.

It's bizarre to believe people have to be treated in such a manner in order to create consumer goods that are affordable. Business has done a masterful job of deceiving the masses for decades, convincing them that if they want nice things, someone needs to suffer for it.

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So you gonna have union labour when you become an LP?

redi jedi said:

So you gonna have union labour when you become an LP?

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If I had a million dollars to play with I'd use it for other things.

I produce for myself.

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The lack of manufacturing is absolutely not sure to unionised labour costs. That's a false argument if there ever was one.

The trade agreements out in place that allowed manufacturers to move their plants to countries with poverty wages and tax havens is what destroyed American manufacturing.

Did big business craft a story to sell to the peasants so anger would be directed at someone else? They sure did. Those greedy union workers, living high on the hog! Not the greedy owners looking to squeeze even more money from the less fortunate.g

It's really amazing that you would even fall for such thinly veiled fabrications. If you look at these 'right to work' states you can see how much lower standards of living become when the unions are broken up and chased out.

Your argument is that rich owners will pay well, simply because it's the right thing to do? Or people should get paid shitty? There's a fundamental ignorance of the economic history of North America for the last 30 years if you're genuinely convinced unions chose to lose jobs before taking pay cuts.

You need a strong reality check.

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Go away troll. I've never once called somebody down for being union, but I've been attacked many times for voicing my dislike of them. I wonder why that is? If unions are so wonderful, why do their members resort to bullying when someone suggests there is an alternative? Go ahead and blame government or business or whoever else you want - don't try to tell me who I allowed to blame.

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Go away troll. I've never once called somebody down for being union, but I've been attacked many times for voicing my dislike of them. I wonder why that is? If unions are so wonderful, why do their members resort to bullying when someone suggests there is an alternative? Go ahead and blame government or business or whoever else you want - don't try to tell me who I allowed to blame.

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I'd suggest some reading you could do to understand the current economic situation in the United States of I thought you'd actually read it.

If you have no knowledge of the Clinton trade agreements with China then you won't be capable of forming an educated opinion on the matter.

It's a real pity.

thelast1 said:

I think that's what he's advocating, chatel slavery.

It's bizarre to believe people have to be treated in such a manner in order to create consumer goods that are affordable. Business has done a masterful job of deceiving the masses for decades, convincing them that if they want nice things, someone needs to suffer for it.

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So now I'm advocating slavery? Is that your new union rallying call : either you support unions or you support slavery? Are you really this fucking stupid, or is it an act?

You can lead a horse to water...

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If I had a million dollars to play with I'd use it for other things.

I produce for myself.

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Lol..ya..nice deflection

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I'd suggest some reading you could do to understand the current economic situation in the United States of I thought you'd actually read it.

If you have no knowledge of the Clinton trade agreements with China then you won't be capable of forming an educated opinion on the matter.


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I'd suggest you go find a new forum to infest. Maybe you can impress some people on the teeny sites? You wouldn't have the balls to comment on my knowledge or education to my face, why do you insist on acting like a complete knob on this site. Go away, punk - I won't respond to your juvenile drivel anymore

ANC said:

Not true, because China literally has factory villages, where you earn a pittance but at least have somewhere to sleep. They make everything we use.
Americans will never do this. Many employers today think that they can abuse their position of privilege like a cotton field owner in the 1800s.

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How are the workplace safety standards in China again?.......... There's a reason the FoxConn factory (where iPhones are made) have a suicide prevention net along the perimeter of their roofs. They get paid a pittence, but hey at least they get to live on site.........

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Are you really this fucking stupid, or is it an act?

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No ones that good an actor.....

redi jedi said:

Lol..ya..nice deflection

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You seem confused.

I stated I would not get into the business in the first place which renders the question moot.

It is unanswerable.

If you're trying to ask if I would use unionised labour if I were a business owner of some type, you'd need to rephrase the question to get that across.

VIANARCHRIS said:

I'd suggest you go find a new forum to infest. Maybe you can impress some people on the teeny sites? You wouldn't have the balls to comment on my knowledge or education to my face, why do you insist on acting like a complete knob on this site. Go away, punk - I won't respond to your juvenile drivel anymore

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Well, that's ironic.

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Best of luck. I know am applicant that's been in the final stage for 2+years. I hope you don't end up in the same boat.

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First time I read this I thought you were talking about yourself...oh well my bad.

redi jedi said:

First time I read this I thought you were talking about yourself...oh well my bad.

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All good. Peace.

Princess of Pot said:

I guess I'm just curious what everyone's opinion is. I would never work for these big companies. I think what they have done to patients is disgusting. But I was thinking that some small LP that was purely for the Rec market might be ok.

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A. they're all here for the rec market, but they're selling to recreational patients with prescriptions. This is why they fund clinics and pay existing clinics for each referral that results in an order (ie: $800 once the "patient" places their first order).

B. I've also heard that HC is gearing up. Not only are they pushing licenses, but they're asking existing LPs to expand as quickly as they can. They're concerned about shortages of product when recreational hits, because if recreational consumes the product and the medical supply fails, the underlying LP system will also fail. They need to supply both markets, but the LPs are focused on the recreational market.

C. I would absolutely work for an LP. Their money is made from the same plastic factory as the money you get everywhere else. They're growing plants and if I had a skillset that could help them bring better cannabis to the market, I would absolutely do it. The LPs have recently realized that there are DGs in this country growing 2-3lbs per light and they're losing their mind and paying massive six figure payments just to secure that knowledge. My ethics are strong, but if someone offered me $250,000 to help them produce a better product I would be hard pressed to say no.

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There will be all sorts of new LPs. And I wonder if a bunch of the smaller mom and pop grows will finally get licensed. What do you guys think?

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They are getting licensed right now. There are people who have 6 applications in 6 different cities (each with a separate RPIC, etc) and they're getting licensed for cultivation left, right and center. Some of these people are not from this industry, they're simply moms and dads trying to get their piece of the pie as it grows. A few of these are taking over DGs (staff, can't take strains or facilities right now) and they're doing things "the right way" in my eyes. I don't think there will be a shortage of great product in the market by Spring.