Xxx og 47.5 days in flower, when to flush?

Hello, rollitup members
I have a xxx og clone 47 days in flower, does this video sound right?
Ill post pics in a bit.
There in 4 gal polly bags, coco medium, running hng full nutrient line up.







I would have 5-6 more feeds at abt 750 ppm with shooting powder at 5.7 g a gal, then a 3-5 day flush, i have been adding 1 ml of drip clean since bloom. I read. It helps drain the salt buildup, as i dont do pre flushes b4 harvest, just a preflush upon flip to 12/12 then a 3-7 day flush b4 chop.
I know i should check by trich ambers, and when pistills recede back in callyx, i guess these girls are ganna get bbw.

Almost day 48 in flower.

You're weeks away. Some people flush, some don't. If you do flush, I would say give it at least 2 - 3 weeks. Those buds have some fattening up to do, and I think starving them at this point would be counter-productive.

The never ending flush debate.....sigh.

I got asked about this in a PM by a member after seeing the disaster another thread became. He asked where to find books and papers on "flushing" and said he might try the "fade".

Here's my answer to him......I felt it needs to be seen,,,,,,again! and again, and again, and this is getting tedious too! @Gary Goodson

Your looking for post grad work. You would do better to search papers......The thing is, NOTHING in agriculture gets 'flushed" and that leads to little to no research in the area. You see, the thing is, the whole "idea" of "flushing is nonsense! Plants don't work that way! They do not take up nutrients or salts as most of you think of them! They do not "store" them in the sense you think of them! Not only that, but the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers! NO amount of "flushing" will "exchange" plant "stored" nutrition back "out" of the plant! Scientifically impossible by the way most of you guys understand......Ok, that's my word on "flushing". (No one listens to this in threads if they don't want to hear it or accept it.)

Now then, you propose the "FADE TO FINISH" method. Great idea in theory but, and this IS a BIG BUT! Remember when I said above that "the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers!" ? This shoots that theory in the ass right away. You see the main amount of stored nutrition is in either the roots and the rest in leaves and some in small amounts in transit in the phloam (the sap that actually moves the nutrients around the plant)......

Now when you "starve a plant" it will draw from it's self by actually breaking down the needed parts of it's self to do an "emergency" attempt to reproduce! (This can happen in certain plants even in veg! A kind of last ditch effort to continue the species.)

With that in mind you take the fact that the plant is not "moving" nutrients "out" of buds, but into them to speed growth and as fast as it can - "reproduce". This single minded process the plant now puts it's self on causes the plant to stress it's self. This self induced stress can, in many cases if done long enough, lead the plant to go bisexual, and produce "banana's" in a last ditch effort to reproduce and "carry on the line" and produce seeds...

Basically put, In reality you are moving nutrients that you're "attempting" to get rid of,,right to where your trying to remove them from! You are also stressing the plant in the way for "Herming" to actually happen easier!

I and many others that have tried to convey this actual plant science, are called everything you can think of and those 'impossible of understanding these facts", fight so hard against us that many of us have simply chosen to avoid the issue or don't fight to hard.

Anyway, there you are in as short and sweet and as simple/understandable as I can...

The thing is you have to understand Botany and Horticulture (and there are LOTS of subsections to those that are involved here) to truly put together the pieces of the puzzle to get your head wrapped around the idea that flushing and the "fade" don't work for what they are intended or alleged to actually do!

There you go Mods, nice, polite and to the point. (Sorry about the other thread Sunni)

There you go, Now have at it!
I'm stepping back to watch the circus.

Read this too!

https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-truth-about-flushing.409622/

Dr. Who said:

The never ending flush debate.....sigh.

I got asked about this in a PM by a member after seeing the disaster another thread became. He asked where to find books and papers on "flushing" and said he might try the "fade".

Here's my answer to him......I felt it needs to be seen,,,,,,again! and again, and again, and this is getting tedious too! @Gary Goodson

Your looking for post grad work. You would do better to search papers......The thing is, NOTHING in agriculture gets 'flushed" and that leads to little to no research in the area. You see, the thing is, the whole "idea" of "flushing is nonsense! Plants don't work that way! They do not take up nutrients or salts as most of you think of them! They do not "store" them in the sense you think of them! Not only that, but the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers! NO amount of "flushing" will "exchange" plant "stored" nutrition back "out" of the plant! Scientifically impossible by the way most of you guys understand......Ok, that's my word on "flushing". (No one listens to this in threads if they don't want to hear it or accept it.)

Now then, you propose the "FADE TO FINISH" method. Great idea in theory but, and this IS a BIG BUT! Remember when I said above that "the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers!" ? This shoots that theory in the ass right away. You see the main amount of stored nutrition is in either the roots and the rest in leaves and some in small amounts in transit in the phloam (the sap that actually moves the nutrients around the plant)......

Now when you "starve a plant" it will draw from it's self by actually breaking down the needed parts of it's self to do an "emergency" attempt to reproduce! (This can happen in certain plants even in veg! A kind of last ditch effort to continue the species.)

With that in mind you take the fact that the plant is not "moving" nutrients "out" of buds, but into them to speed growth and as fast as it can - "reproduce". This single minded process the plant now puts it's self on causes the plant to stress it's self. This self induced stress can, in many cases if done long enough, lead the plant to go bisexual, and produce "banana's" in a last ditch effort to reproduce and "carry on the line" and produce seeds...

Basically put, In reality you are moving nutrients that you're "attempting" to get rid of,,right to where your trying to remove them from! You are also stressing the plant in the way for "Herming" to actually happen easier!

I and many others that have tried to convey this actual plant science, are called everything you can think of and those 'impossible of understanding these facts", fight so hard against us that many of us have simply chosen to avoid the issue or don't fight to hard.

Anyway, there you are in as short and sweet and as simple/understandable as I can...

The thing is you have to understand Botany and Horticulture (and there are LOTS of subsections to those that are involved here) to truly put together the pieces of the puzzle to get your head wrapped around the idea that flushing and the "fade" don't work for what they are intended or alleged to actually do!

There you go Mods, nice, polite and to the point. (Sorry about the other thread Sunni)

There you go, Now have at it!
I'm stepping back to watch the circus.

Read this too!

https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-truth-about-flushing.409622/

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Well said If people can't understand it they way you just laid it out, then they just don't want to learn. Or they, like most youth these days, think they're special.

I only flush once... unless we had Taco Bell

I musta been reading outdated/bunk info, ill look up those links when i have a chance, thanks for the links.
Im a black whole throw your kowledge to me.

When i hear suposive ogs smokers, say if you light up a bowl and it crackles, or sparks its due to a non flushed mmj plant.
Idk how they even came up with that as a general term, there coulda been many other variables that lead to the spark of a fresh bowl idk.

Nice to know the upper dogs dont practice flushing for indoor these days. Its convienient to say the least. I myshelf break my back takin care of my girls, i put alot of energy towards them.
I bet you dont see a commercial grower on a large scale flush.

Gary Goodson said:

Well said If people can't understand it they way you just laid it out, then they just don't want to learn. Or they, like most youth these days, think they're special.

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Perhaps when i have grey hairs, i would have the right to clame the 3rd reich, and dismantle the youth for there pompisity.

Capt. Trips said:

You're weeks away. Some people flush, some don't. If you do flush, I would say give it at least 2 - 3 weeks. Those buds have some fattening up to do, and I think starving them at this point would be counter-productive.

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Ok thanks for the advice,
If i dont plan to flush, should i still apply the 2-3 week time frame you recomended?