You think you could grow with this??? LED

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Number of panels: 2
LEDs per panel: 225
Total LEDs: 450
Color: Red/blue mix
Power per panel: 14w
Panel (ea.): 12.25"x12.25"
Panel height (ea.): 1.5"
Frame: Composite
Red wavelength: 630 nm
Blue wavelength: 455 nm
Blended wave: 652 nm
Rec. coverage: 8 sq. ft.
Max. coverage: 130 sq. ft.
Use: Indoor growing
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thanks for your help... if this is worth my time it would be a perfect solution to some of my problems!!! thanks so much to all you guys for the replys!!:leaf:
 
btw i currently have a 400 watt sunleaves pulsar and am doing fine... just trying to find a cost effective way to start these autoflowering strains elsewhere in a smaller space. Thanks
 

nl3004.kind

Active Member
meh, a little not awesome but it would be better than incandescent... leds can and will grow great for you if you are willing to put up with lower output... but: less heat issues than hid, longer time between changes, lower energy consumption... there are leds that work, but (imo) ebay is not the place to find them... go out to your local hydro store (or online if you trust them) and get something good and big (and probably, sorry) and expensive... good luck... just because everyone has always used the 400, 600, or 1k lamps doesn't mean that they will be using them forever as well...
 
thanks man, i have a 4x4 room elsewhere but im just looking to convert half a book shelf into a possible home for nurturing autos... as they can be between 12 and 15 inches on average the space isnt a issue... its stealthing it up, and a huge reflector or 6 cfls will cramp the space i actually do have.... thanks for the reply!!! :-o
 

SwiftGrow

Active Member
Ive looked into alot of LED's my roomate works for a hydroponics supplier and Kessil is the best LED i have found. I'm not saying some of the other dont work, Ive heard the penetrators and certain UFO ones work well also but the light penetration in a small package just does not compare.

Check out Kessil LEDS h150's there smaller and little more expensive but there by far the highest quality LED on the market. There manufactured by a company named Dicon thats been in the fiberoptic,led,communication industry since 1986. There also made in america using a patented 21 led dense structure with better mounting for cooling aswell. I'd really only recommend these LED for smaller operations or supplementary lighting. Each h150 only covers 2 square feet alone and maybe 4 feet as supplementary lighting but the saving of not buying ballast and hoods does help balance the cost. There about 300$ a pop but if you run a HPS with a few of Kessill h150's your really getting the best spectrum and penetration possible. If you think there too expensive then you prolly should just buy a decent HPS system and save until you can afford LEDs.

Dont take my word for it tho check out www.kessil.com and kessil on youtube for yourself. (Dicon also has website as they do military contracts etc)
 

Hudsonvalley82

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search for blackstar LEDs on ebay. I just got my 500W from them, (gotham hydro) and it is the shit. High powered american cree LED's. BRIGHT AS HELL punishes your eyes. they have some nice 180w, 240w models for the best prices I can find around.
 

JackStrawFromWichita

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I recently started a grow with a 55w LED (110x0.5w bulbs). Using small tents and sea of green continuous cycle (taking cuttings every week, rooting, short veg, then straight into flower), the LED can only handle plants in the area directly under it (similar to yours that's about 1 sq ft or 4 to possibly 9 small plants.

In addition, I also bought some t5 cfls from the hardware store, they take less power, give off about the same amount of heat as the LED (neither of them are "HOT" and you can move the LED closer to the plants but it still eminates heat through the top and around it), were far cheaper, and the plants under them are NOTICEABLY larger than the plants that are under the LEDs. I've been paying close attention to how close the lights are from the plants, making sure they're as close as absolutely possible without the leaves showing stress. No noticeable stress from any of the plants, but the ones under the T5s are doing much better and per watt/per unit/per cost the T5s will handle a much larger surface area. I was never planning on flowering under the LED, I have a separate tent with a 150w HPS for that, but I doubt in flowering the LED would even be as good as the T5s let alone the HPS.

you will be able to slowly veg small plants (up to maybe 8-12") but some small CFLs with daylight bulbs will destroy the performance of the LED panels.

save your money on the LEDs, i've heard only the high power ones (the 2w bulbs) are effective but still have no penetrating power, run just about as hot as an equivalent-performing HPS, and are a complete waste of money.
 

Will Orezo

Active Member
Im using 2 Kessil LED Purple's w/ organic soil. Nothin special, just a small room that i didn't want to put a whole lot of effort into. Heats the main issue when growing in small spaces, thats why I got the Kessil's. Currently have 7 plants under it now, but the main issue with these lights is the output, only like a 2'x2' square. For me its perfect because I cant have lights that need air intake/exhaust ports to help keep them cool. Its also fun to train your plants to get real bushy, my clone has like 10 tops into its third week of flowering! I just have one fan cooling off the room with a dehumidifier & couldn't be happier with this setup. Temps stay around 75, but I do keep the door open when the lights are on. Kessil is the shit if you got the $$$.
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