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fdd2blk

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Minneapolis-bound flight overshoots airport by 150 miles

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Pilots of a Northwest Airlines flight ignored radio calls and flew more than 150 miles past their destination as the military prepared to scramble fighter jets to intercept the plane in mid-air, federal authorities said Thursday.
The pilots "flew for 1 hour 18 minutes Wednesday night without responding to air-traffic radio calls, covering a distance of about 600 miles before finally turning around, according to data released by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB)," USA TODAY's Alan Levin writes.
Military fighter jets were called in to prepare to intercept the plane mid-air after repeated attempts to contact the pilot failed. "A source familiar with the investigation told the Associated Press that the pilots didn't become aware of their situation until a flight attendant contacted them through an intercom. The source spoke on condition of anonymity because the person wasn't authorized to speak publicly," USA TODAY writes.
The Wall Street Journal is today questioning whether the pilots fell asleep in the cockpit, which would explain the 78 minutes of radio silence.
"The National Transportation Safety Board is investigating, among other things, whether the two pilots fell asleep at the controls," the WSJ writes. "The pair told law-enforcement officials who interviewed them upon landing in Minneapolis -- and apparently told fellow pilots later -- that they had been engaged in a 'heated discussion over airline policy and they lost situational awareness,' according to the NTSB."
The Twin Cities Pioneer Press reports that the plane landed safely just after 9 p.m. in the Twin Cities, but that the deboarding process was different than passengers are used to. "When it pulled up to the gate, 'everybody stood up and got ready to exit,' passenger Lonnie Heidtke of Chippewa Falls, Wis., said. 'The flight attendant said, 'Everybody sit back down please.' "
Airport police then boarded the plane to make sure the loss of radio contact wasn't the result of criminal activity, Patrick Hogan, an airport spokesman, told the Pioneer Press.
The military jets that were on alert -- which is routine procedure -- never made it to the air, as the pilots made contact before it came to that. The pilots were interviewed upon landing, and investigators from the NTSB plan to review data from the plane's digital flight-data recorder, "which could offer clues as to what transpired during the period when airport controllers lost contact with the plane," the WSJ writes. "Initially, investigators focused on the possibility that both pilots might have fallen asleep in midflight, but later indications were that the crew may have lost track of where they were and then failed to swiftly notify controllers about their lapse."
This incident takes place as pilot fatigue is a hot topic among the FAA, airlines and pilots unions and is likely to stir up that debate. --Rebecca Heslin
 

mexiblunt

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Wow! Anyone find it dis-comforting that a rouge plane can still fly for and hour and 18 mins without contact and no interception?
 

fdd2blk

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Wow! Anyone find it dis-comforting that a rouge plane can still fly for and hour and 18 mins without contact and no interception?

i do. :neutral:



they showed the flight path on the news this morning. air traffic made them perform a series of "maneuvers" once radio contact was re-established. they wanted to make sure they were the real pilots. :eyesmoke:


dude's turned off the radio so they could argue. :-? bongsmilie
 

NoDrama

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Well you wouldn't want the airlines to hear you berate their policies on an open comm channel. Makes perfect sense to do that, but my god one of them should have had a clue where the plane was. 1h18m of a (could have been)rogue plane flying around, we must not have learned anything from 911 as a terrorist could have taken that plane all the way to Chi town and leveled the Willis tower with it.
 

ilkhan

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HAHA! Human action at work.
Bet those guys feel stupid.
Better them then me though. (for once)
 

mexiblunt

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Yup that just leaves one explanation and I think you nailed it fdd. Or maybe a little afternoon delight messed up their flight.
 

fdd2blk

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they were on the internet arguing, funny.

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/2009-10-26-northwest-pilots_N.htm


"The pilots —Richard Cole of Salem, Ore., the first officer, and Timothy Cheney of Gig Harbor, Wash., the captain — said in interviews conducted over the weekend that they were not fatigued and didn't fall asleep, the board said in a statement.
Instead, Cole and Cheney told investigators that they both had their laptops out while the first officer, who had more experience with scheduling, instructed the captain on monthly flight crew scheduling. The pilots were out of communication with air traffic controllers and their airline for more than an hour and didn't realize their mistake until contacted by a flight attendant, the board said."
 
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