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UncleBuck

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"less light is actually better", keep the canopy at 92, and get no smell from your plants until harvest?

these are some innovative techniques.

bro, do you even know what it takes to make a plant tick?
 

UncleBuck

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Light intensity should be adjusted according to a plant's light saturation point. A very important concept that is NEVER discussed in forums with the exception of me bringing it up now and then.
ahem.

anything over 1800 watts for 32 sq ft is overkill.

50-55 watts per square foot is the saturation point, more watts is not beneficial after that.

so i'd vote for 3 x 600, but do whatever you want.
light saturation, from what i've heard, occurs at about 55 watts per square foot for HID.
you can probably go up to 65 watts per square foot, i've heard of people using 1000 watts per 4x4 area.
"learn what makes a plant tick"

"give the plant what it needs"

"get vigorous green growth"

"your advice sucks, FWIW"

is it any wonder why these threads get out of hand?
 
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RM3

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ahem.

"learn what makes a plant tick"

"give the plant what it needs"

"get vigorous green growth"

"your advice sucks, FWIW"

is it any wonder why these threads get out of hand?
These threads get out of hand because of close minded misunderstanding, I grow and breed my ass off lol, my strains are growing all over the world, my innovations work, lots of growers usin em :)
 

mudballs

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These threads get out of hand because of close minded misunderstanding, I grow and breed my ass off lol, my strains are growing all over the world, my innovations work, lots of growers usin em :)
speaking of innovations...you've stirred my desire for knowledge and peak performance of a plant. i was dumb on roots and now i'm a bit smarter. i keep tripping on roots because i like talking to informed people about things i want to know more about.roots as of now...i've found out roots take in water and nutes using ions through
apoplasm (cell walls and intercellular spaces) and/or (ii) movement cell-to-cell in the symplasm (through the living cells)
so that lead me to the question how do i tweak those openings? i consider a plant an engine. these are part of the carburetors (stomata=air, roots=fuel) and i want to add a supercharger.what made you decide 60ish degrees was the optimum rootzone temp? is there any 'tweaking' you've experimented with?
 
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RM3

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speaking of innovations...you've stirred my desire for knowledge and peak performance of a plant. i was dumb on roots and now i'm a bit smarter. i keep tripping on roots because i like talking to informed people about things i want to know more about.roots as of now...i've found out roots take in water and nutes using ions through
apoplasm (cell walls and intercellular spaces) and/or (ii) movement cell-to-cell in the symplasm (through the living cells)
so that lead me to the question how do i tweak those openings? i consider a plant an engine. these are part of the carburetors (stomata=air, roots=fuel) and i want to add a supercharger.what made you decide 60ish degrees was the optimum rootzone temp? is there any 'tweaking' you've experimented with?
Roots are the foundation, the more you lay down, the bigger your project.

The Stomata are the engine and actually work like a carburetor. They open & close based on the conditions in our gardens, we want em wide open and doin their thang

And IMO light is the fuel while nutes are the supercharger

as far as experiments go, I've done hundreds of em, abused this plant every way I could think of and all ways that I have read about . How do you think I landed on my innovations?
 

Uncle Ben

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These threads get out of hand because of close minded misunderstanding, I grow and breed my ass off lol, my strains are growing all over the world, my innovations work, lots of growers usin em :)
I can vouch for Riddle. He's old school, and "we" know what makes a plant tick. He also has some of the best genetics to be had including the last of my Zamal which was sourced directly from the breeder on La Reunion via Gypsy (owner of IC Mag and seedbanks) from Christophe the breeder.

I'll say it again, the poor noob is gonna have to learn the hard way by coming here and expecting quality information. The only real innovation is mother nature.
 

Uncle Ben

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I know roots because I have literally planted, raised, and harvested tens of thousands of annuals and perennials for 45 years. I have been experimenting and perfecting root control and development to the nth degree using root tip pruning systems. Here's one such journal that was posted to the old and infamous Overgrow.com forum -
https://www.rollitup.org/t/spin-out-for-chemical-root-pruning.9114/

June RootBuilder expansion of a large blood orange tree. Notice no spin-out and large scaffold roots growing into the native soil at the bottom. This is how you support mother nature:

MoroRepotJune2014.jpg
 
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mudballs

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from a cursory google on 'increasing apoplasm and symplasm openings' i found something about ammonium. ever mess with ammonium or baking soda on the rootzone? best guess at the effects?
 

Uncle Ben

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from a cursory google on 'increasing apoplasm and symplasm openings' i found something about ammonium. ever mess with ammonium or baking soda on the rootzone? best guess at the effects?
Probably death. What are you trying to accomplish?
 

RM3

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from a cursory google on 'increasing apoplasm and symplasm openings' i found something about ammonium. ever mess with ammonium or baking soda on the rootzone? best guess at the effects?
A quick search found this ,,,

Rejuvenate your rose bushes. Mix together one tsp baking soda, 1/2 tsp of clear ammonia and one tsp Epsom salt in a gallon of water. One gallon will treat four buses that have lost their luster.

Test your soil PH. Wet the soil and take a small amount of baking soda and sprinkle it onto soil. If the baking soda bubbles, your soil is acidic with a PH level under 5.

everything else was about death of things like UB said
 

Uncle Ben

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A quick search found this ,,,

Rejuvenate your rose bushes. Mix together one tsp baking soda, 1/2 tsp of clear ammonia and one tsp Epsom salt in a gallon of water. One gallon will treat four buses that have lost their luster.
"Lost their luster"? Perhaps a little spit and shoe polish might help.

Got a link?
 

qwizoking

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This isn't my thread and I'm not gona come here spouting my thoughts..
But increasing temp at canopy obviously speeds transpiration and a little extra vac to suck shit out the roots, as long as their feet stay cool, all is dandy, this prevents evaporation in the rootbed and allows concentrations\ec and what not to be lower. also effectively reducing the side effects of root bound plants. What yiur suggesting with ammonia or whatever really isn't a good idea. And frankly increasing those "openings" is unnecessary. Though inducing a sort of sar response would be interesting
 
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