Dr Frost Genetics is a scam artist!

[SourD420]

Just so everyone on here knows, Do Not Buy Anything from Dr Frost. Multiple people have not recieved their orders from him and he will either ignore you or lie to you about sending your order out. Ive been trying to get my money back for a few weeks now and he is trying to make it very difficult for me even tho he advertised a money back guarantee if he did not have them shipped by a certain day. So this is a warning to everyone! DO NOT DEAL WITH DR FROST GENETICS and do not buy his gear if you see it in a dispensary! He is not a man of his word or a very good person in mine and multiple other peoples experiences with him.

 

[King Arthur]

How are the plants though? I haven't gone through a breeder to get their gear yet so I wouldn't know how that experience feels but I use NGR and soon I will hop on the Gorilla when I get bitcoin.

I saw DR Frost at NGR and was wondering, I haven't seen any of his stuff or even heard of him so scam artist is ringing in my ear.

 

[SourD420]

How are the plants though? I haven't gone through a breeder to get their gear yet so I wouldn't know how that experience feels but I use NGR and soon I will hop on the Gorilla when I get bitcoin.

I saw DR Frost at NGR and was wondering, I haven't seen any of his stuff or even heard of him so scam artist is ringing in my ear.

I have not ran his gear and with this experience ive had with him it makes me not ever want to run his gear. What makes me really angry is that he straight up lied to me multiple times and has done the same thing to multiple others. People like this need to be exposed to the community so they cant get away with taking peoples money and never talking to them again

 

[SourD420]

We all ordered directly from him too, not from a middle man company so that really says alot about the kind of person he is when he doesnt even care what taking peoples money will do to his reputation. Its been almost two months since my order and the only time i get any kind of response from him is when i try to get my money back thru PP. Im close to getting my money back im just crossing my fingers they dont give me a hard time

 

[King Arthur]

We all ordered directly from him too, not from a middle man company so that really says alot about the kind of person he is when he doesnt even care what taking peoples money will do to his reputation. Its been almost two months since my order and the only time i get any kind of response from him is when i try to get my money back thru PP. Im close to getting my money back im just crossing my fingers they dont give me a hard time

What a scumbag he is, I appreciate you sharing your experience I won't be purchasing any of that shit any time soon.

 

[Gbuddy]

Bad karma around this guy if you ask me.

If the same karma was transfered onto his seeds its maybe better for you and everybody else to never grow out his gear.

Karma is a bitch and always comes back.

 

[Gbuddy]

Was checking his website....
you call him a breeder? I would not.
hes just crossing crosses and backcrossing it. Thats not breeding its just roulette. Get a book about mendels law and make the math of variation in such a project.

There us not one ibl he worked out in his whole catalog not even a truebreeding hand selected landrace but that is the real stuff a serious breeder works with.

I would be careful with this kind of so called breeders... they are lower seedmakers at best multiply just what they have got from other peoples selection. Thats no art a kid can do that if you tell him how to pollinate. and asking for good dollares for that is a joke ten seeds for ten bucks thats what multihybridizing is realy worth and not a dime more.
I even would avoid to make a description for the offspring of multihybrids because you cant tell what the variation brings out in shape taste or potency.
I know my two or three things about breeding, breeders and the seedindustrie. Be warned half of this industry should be rather called inhonestry.

Take care who you trust guys. Seedmarket is a fucked up bitch

 

[Gbuddy]

Example

(AB x CD) x (DE x FG) =

^^^ how many variables do you get?
You say wow?
Thats nothing now add recessive and dominant genes to the formula as variables.
now you know what I mean

 

[SourD420]

Was checking his website....
you call him a breeder? I would not.
hes just crossing crosses and backcrossing it. Thats not breeding its just roulette. Get a book about mendels law and make the math of variation in such a project.

There us not one ibl he worked out in his whole catalog not even a truebreeding hand selected landrace but that is the real stuff a serious breeder works with.

I would be careful with this kind of so called breeders... they are lower seedmakers at best multiply just what they have got from other peoples selection. Thats no art a kid can do that if you tell him how to pollinate. and asking for good dollares for that is a joke ten seeds for ten bucks thats what multihybridizing is realy worth and not a dime more.
I even would avoid to make a description for the offspring of multihybrids because you cant tell what the variation brings out in shape taste or potency.
I know my two or three things about breeding, breeders and the seedindustrie. Be warned half of this industry should be rather called inhonestry.

Take care who you trust guys. Seedmarket is a fucked up bitch

Only reason i gave him a chance was because he was recommended by a friend of mine and he ships from inside the US. Will probably not take anymore "recommendations" haha

 

[OGEvilgenius]

Bad karma around this guy if you ask me.

If the same karma was transfered onto his seeds its maybe better for you and everybody else to never grow out his gear.

Karma is a bitch and always comes back.

A guy this dishonest would probably put random seeds he gets from his bags into his packs. Thanks for the info @SourD420.

I am curious as to what conversations have been about and the lies but sometimes details can cause problems so if SourD can't afford any that's cool.

 

[Gbuddy]

Only reason i gave him a chance was because he was recommended by a friend of mine and he ships from inside the US. Will probably not take anymore "recommendations" haha

Best way to find out about some gear is to checkout the results other experienced growers had with the same gear.

Dont look at newbies because I see them often blaming the used gear to be hermie and such but most of the time they have major lightleaks and stuff like that. Most newbies with one or two grows will not blame their selfs for the bad results.

Peace

 

[SourD420]

A guy this dishonest would probably put random seeds he gets from his bags into his packs. Thanks for the info @SourD420.

I am curious as to what conversations have been about and the lies but sometimes details can cause problems so if SourD can't afford any that's cool.

Im sorry your post confused me a little, were you asking me a question at the end?

 

[kmog33]

Example

(AB x CD) x (DE x FG) =

^^^ how many variables do you get?
You say wow?
Thats nothing now add recessive and dominant genes to the formula as variables.
now you know what I mean

A lot and you're not event mentioning co-dominant traits and the fun/mystery they add.


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[King Arthur]

Im sorry your post confused me a little, were you asking me a question at the end?

I think he is asking for details on your conversation with Dr Frostbum

 

[King Arthur]

A lot and you're not event mentioning co-dominant traits and the fun/mystery they add.


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True that!

 

[SourD420]

Basically ordered 3 packs. He said if i got 3 packs he would include a couple free ones. He advertised that they would be shipped out by june 30th 2 day priority or your money back. Hadnt recieved anything by july 6th so i hit him up to ask for a tracking number so i knew when they would be in the mailbox as i didnt want the heat to kill them. After a few days of telling me that he would get the tracking number he finally got it to me and i noticed he did not ship them until june 6th. I asked him about it and he said he sent a package out already but lost the tracking number so he sent a second package out. This soundy fishy but i didnt mind that he was late i know things can come up so i patiently waited for them to come and didnt bitch about him sending them late despite the "money back guarantee". So finally when the pack with the tracking number came...which was the only package he sent, not two....i opened it and only 1 of the packs i ordered was in there. The rest were all untested seeds he had not even tried yet. I told him about it and he said he would send the rest of my correct order the next day and send me the tracking number. I waited another few days and never heard back from him, i waited 3 weeks with multiple attempts to contact him and was completely ignored. My friend who also ordered a pack never recieved anything and was ignored by him also. So after the unsuccessful attempts to get my proper order i finally made a paypal claim to get my money back. And then of course after i make the claim he sends me and email and asks for my phone number to "talk about this"....i said it was too late for that and that i would just like a refund. After that he never replied. I emailed the person in charge of his paypal to ask what they wanted me to send back because the way the claim was i had to send my package back. I felt like i should not have had to send anything back and they should have just given me my refund without me having to basically fight them for it thru paypal, why should i have to put risk on myself for their mistake? I was ignored again with no reply so I decided to send back the 1 pack that i actually did order just so i could get the claim processed. Once the person who runs his paypal got the package back they emailed and told me that they wanted everything back and that i was just trying to rip them off! I kept asking them about the BS "money back guarantee" they advertised and they would not reply to the question...they said i was essentially eating 75% of a pie and asking for my money back completely ignoring the "agreement" they themselves stated in the advertisement. If I was not ignored by them until they were forced to reply to me then maybe the situation would have been different but what do they expect when they treat people the way they have? They had no kind of professionalism what so ever and i would never deal with them ever again. He even tried to argue with me publicly on instagram about it and multiple people started calling him out saying he has been doing bad business and pissing people off for over the past year. So ya...that is it in a nutshell lol

 

[abe supercro]

But he's a doctor.

 

[SourD420]

I think he is asking for details on your conversation with Dr Frostbum

A guy this dishonest would probably put random seeds he gets from his bags into his packs. Thanks for the info @SourD420.

I am curious as to what conversations have been about and the lies but sometimes details can cause problems so if SourD can't afford any that's cool.

 

[SourD420]

But he's a doctor.

More like a clown haha. Frosty the Clown

 

[Gbuddy]

A lot and you're not event mentioning co-dominant traits and the fun/mystery they add.


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I tried just to keep it as simple as possible to objectivly show how much variation multihybridation will show and how close to impossible it is to judge the outcome.