Older people of RIU..

[Carne Seca]

Geronimo got fucked. They promised him (General Crook did) that if he surrendered and had his warroirs surrender that they would send him away for awhile then let him go home to his beloved Mescalero. They never did let him, the lying sonsofbitches. He died in Oklahoma. He was not a chief or even a warrior. He was a shaman. Hell his name wasn't even Geronimo but Goyathlay or Goyahkla which meant "one who yawns". He simply had had enough. He was Chiricahua but war chiefs in the region like Mangas Coloradas and Nana and Juh as well as Victorio pretty much ran his peaceful ass away. Soon he had had enough and the rest is history.

It's spelled Goyaałé. The L is a voiceless L... you make a sound like a hissing cat out of the side of your tongue and the e is a high tone. So you go up in tone after the voiceless L.

 

[imchucky666]

LOL I went to the Red Earth powwow and saw a lot of Cherokee and Choctaw and some Seminole. I went into a gay bar there (Saddle Tramps) and ended up with a group of them. One of the best times of my life. We went from bar to bar and danced our little hearts out. They accepted me when I told them I was from New Mexico. One of them said hello in Navajo and I answered back and asked him how he was doing. I was kinfolk after that. They took good care of me. But they were some fierce queens. Nobody messed with them.

The way you disappeared, I wouldnt'a thought you were in much shape for dancin'.

 

[hotrodharley]

I used to work in Montana on the Blackfeet res. ER. Now THOSE Indians were some MEAN folks! The only tribe other tribes warned Lewis and Clark about when they were heading west, the only Indians they fought with and that was on the return trip. The Cree ran them off from the Great Slave lake of Canada because the French traded guns to the Cree but not the Blackfeet. They got chased west and stopped at the Rockies. Nobody ever chased them anywhere again. They never signed a treaty with the US government. They WALKED to New Mexico and stole their first horses. WALKED! Through the Utes! And the Utes were another super-tough tribe, feared by even the Apache who identified the color black as death and coming from the north. The Blackfeet.

 

[hotrodharley]

It's spelled Goyaałé. The L is a voiceless L... you make a sound like a hissing cat out of the side of your tongue and the e is a high tone. So you go up in tone after the voiceless L.

How did you type that? I can't even make mine copy-and-paste.

 

[Carne Seca]

The way you disappeared, I wouldnt'a thought you were in much shape for dancin'.

?? You mean back in July. My mom was in the final stages of her illness. I was sleeping by her bed there towards the end. She needed constant care. I had to use a vacuum pump to clear out her throat so she wouldn't choke to death plus she needed turning every two hours to avoid bed sores. I didn't have much time for posting. Wow.. it's only been two months. It feels like an age ago.

 

[hotrodharley]

The Navajo and the Apache are the only Athabascan-speaking tribes south of northern Canada and Alaska.

 

[Carne Seca]

How did you type that? I can't even make mine copy-and-paste.

Under accessories in your computer start menu you should have a character map icon. I choose the letters I need from there since southwest native languages have letters that don't exist in the English alphabet.

 

[hotrodharley]

?? You mean back in July. My mom was in the final stages of her illness. I was sleeping by her bed there towards the end. She needed constant care. I had to use a vacuum pump to clear out her throat so she wouldn't choke to death plus she needed turning every two hours to avoid bed sores. I didn't have much time for posting. Wow.. it's only been two months. It feels like an age ago.

Good on you for being a good and loyal son. I'm proud of you. That sure is not easy. May God bless.

 

[hotrodharley]

Under accessories in your computer start menu you should have a character map icon. I choose the letters I need from there since southwest native languages have letters that don't exist in the English alphabet.

OH! Under "System Tools". Thanks, man!!!!

 

[Carne Seca]

The Navajo and the Apache are the only Athabascan-speaking tribes south of northern Canada and Alaska.

The Navajo and Apache are actually different bands of the same tribe. The Spanish didn't know that. I can understand White Mountain Apache as easily as Navajo but I have to listen a little harder. they tend to chew their words.

 

[hotrodharley]

The Navajo and Apache are actually different bands of the same tribe. The Spanish didn't know that. I can understand White Mountain Apache as easily as Navajo but I have to listen a little harder. they tend to chew their words.

One of the Navajo Code Talkers just passed. Semper Fi, Marine.

 

[nick88]

One of the Navajo Code Talkers just passed. Semper Fi, Marine.

The truly sad part about that,.. is so few people know who they were, or what they did.

 

[hotrodharley]

Geronimo with the crook Crook. Geronimo is the first Indian on the left, seated. This pic is in Mexico's Sierra Madre, part of the traditional range of the southwest Apaches.

 

[Carne Seca]

One of the Navajo Code Talkers just passed. Semper Fi, Marine.

There aren't many left. We used to have a code talker friend that would visit and drink coffee with us in the mornings. I loved his stories. He was a Plummer. One of the bravest men I ever knew. He grew up with my father's family. HIS father predicted my great-grandfather's death. My great-grandfather had this huge black stallion that he loved to ride. It was a mean damn thing. Mr. Plummer tried to warn him but he wouldn't listen. The horse balked jumping a fence and he flew into it breaking his neck.

 

[hotrodharley]

The truly sad part about that,.. is so few people know who they were, or what they did.

The only code never broken or compromised. "The Wind Talkers" - their name for themselves. From talking on a radio.

 

[imchucky666]

?? You mean back in July. My mom was in the final stages of her illness. I was sleeping by her bed there towards the end. She needed constant care. I had to use a vacuum pump to clear out her throat so she wouldn't choke to death plus she needed turning every two hours to avoid bed sores. I didn't have much time for posting. Wow.. it's only been two months. It feels like an age ago.

No, either last night, or night before, let me go check, I don't remember real well, been drinking a lot lately.
Shit, I already deleted PM's, but you disappeared out of the convo, and I couldn't think of anything I might have said to offend you or anything, so I PM'ed Hep.
He assured me it was "OK", you just sometimes fall asleep and drop out of the convo.

 

[nick88]

Yep, pretty much saved our asses

 

[hotrodharley]

Yep, pretty much saved our asses

Here's their web page.

http://www.navajocodetalkers.org/

"Often lacking birth certificates, it was impossible to verify ages. After the war it was discovered that recruits as young as 15 and as old as 35 had enlisted. Age notwithstanding, they easily bore the rigors of basic training, thanks to their upbringing in the southwestern desert."

 

[Carne Seca]

The only code never broken or compromised. "The Wind Talkers" - their name for themselves. From talking on a radio.

It was a very sacred name. The wind or Niłch'i dine'é gave the breath of life to the Navajo people. They say that it entered in through their noses and mouths and exited out of their fingertips. Which is why you see swirls on your fingertips. Most people don't realize the importance of that label. To the day he died Mr. Plummer never gave away the secret of the code. He kept his word.

 

[imchucky666]

The Navajo and Apache are actually different bands of the same tribe. The Spanish didn't know that. I can understand White Mountain Apache as easily as Navajo but I have to listen a little harder. they tend to chew their words.

You must be kinda like my buddy from school, who grew up with parents from two different provinces that had different Philipino dialects, so he could speak both, but if his mom and dad started talking at the same time, he had to tell them to slow down.... funny.