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Grassizgreener

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You gonna need at lease 14-18” for the next scrog net, should of flip, then weave while they was stretching cause u over veg them to fill your canopy... my experience is fill you canopy 60-75% veg then flip. Weave first week and ur set till day 28 to clean up whatever don’t go pass first scrog net... good luck with the jungle u have :thumbsup:
 

2com

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I think some scroggers wouldn't even really call this a "true scrog". More just a trellis/double trellis, for the purpose of support.
Anyways, @DoubleAtotheRON, can you give me some feedback on those Method7 Agent 939 LEDFX glasses you all have. Is that the exact model you have (the chameleon pink lens, for "full spectrum"/(white?) leds) please?
Do they alter the color of what you're seeing? I don't want that. And how do you feel they protect your eyes, are you able to comfortably work under the lights? When you walk into the room, do you get that "jesus fuck! my eyes!" feeling? I want serious protection but not wanting to be looking at purple or some weird tinted shade. Some glasses, I've found, also *really mess with...depth perception or something too, it's annoying when trying to trim branches underneath and it's a little difficult to tell if scissors are going to the right limb, haha.

Thanks for any details and impressions.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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I think some scroggers wouldn't even really call this a "true scrog". More just a trellis/double trellis, for the purpose of support.
Anyways, @DoubleAtotheRON, can you give me some feedback on those Method7 Agent 939 LEDFX glasses you all have. Is that the exact model you have (the chameleon pink lens, for "full spectrum"/(white?) leds) please?
Do they alter the color of what you're seeing? I don't want that. And how do you feel they protect your eyes, are you able to comfortably work under the lights? When you walk into the room, do you get that "jesus fuck! my eyes!" feeling? I want serious protection but not wanting to be looking at purple or some weird tinted shade. Some glasses, I've found, also *really mess with...depth perception or something too, it's annoying when trying to trim branches underneath and it's a little difficult to tell if scissors are going to the right limb, haha.

Thanks for any details and impressions.
True!... this is not a real ScrOG . Im just doing some experimenting with weaving and training.. This group is really over populated, but we'll see how she turns out. The Method7's... man, I gotta say that If had known about these from day 1, I would have gotten them. Coming from the processing room to the grow room, I do not get that "JESUS FUCK!" at all. No glasses, for sure. But it sees natural. To me, regular sunglasses just don't let you see things in true color.... look at all my pics I take, I take them with my phone, and put the Method7's in front of the lens. When I take a pic without the glasses in front of the camera, it looks all yellow (so too speak), but as you can see (pun intended), the pics look like natural light. And that's what I see when I wear them. My vision is far sighted, so I have to wear readers over the Method's to see what Im doing, but yeah, that does kinda fuck with my depth perception sometimes if Im looking up at an angle while trimming larf and stuff. But I think that's because I'm just wearing cheap Dollar Store readers (plastic lenses) ... but Im sure if you had some good quality glass lens readers that compensated for lens distortion, that may not be a problem.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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We we don’t have to get technical, but if u gonna use the equipment, use it to its full potential.. just saying
Thank you for your input sir, but i am not an experienced grower. .. getting there tho. The next round I may have to modify the framework, but for now, Im gonna let them go as is. I know how these Ethos strains stretch, and stack, so I think it will work. If not, I'll try again.
 
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2com

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We we don’t have to get technical
Agreed. Just pointing out that there's a distinct difference. I've done both :)
I hate over shooting on the height of the second level, and having not all branches reach it - but that's also probably mostly due to poor canopy management. For example having some 12-14" tops that are an inch below reaching the second level, and thus they get no (top) support, haha. When having that level 4 inches lower would've clearly been better for the entire canopy.
True!... this is not a real ScrOG . Im just doing some experimenting with weaving and training.. This group is really over populated, but we'll see how she turns out. The Method7's... man, I gotta say that If had known about these from day 1, I would have gotten them. Coming from the processing room to the grow room, I do not get that "JESUS FUCK!" at all. No glasses, for sure. But it sees natural. To me, regular sunglasses just don't let you see things in true color.... look at all my pics I take, I take them with my phone, and put the Method7's in front of the lens. When I take a pic without the glasses in front of the camera, it looks all yellow (so too speak), but as you can see (pun intended), the pics look like natural light. And that's what I see when I wear them. My vision is far sighted, so I have to wear readers over the Method's to see what Im doing, but yeah, that does kinda fuck with my depth perception sometimes if Im looking up at an angle while trimming larf and stuff. But I think that's because I'm just wearing cheap Dollar Store readers (plastic lenses) ... but Im sure if you had some good quality glass lens readers that compensated for lens distortion, that may not be a problem.
Thanks for the info/review. They're on my short list. It feels pretty stupid to be spending money on "cool gadgets" and shit, while eyesight slowly deteriorates, hah. (I do use some shades, cheap amazon ones, they fuck the color too much. Honestly, I think staring at this fucking computer monitor is what's really doing it, though. Haha.

Thanks again man.
The room and plants look great, keep up the good work.

Any plans or thoughts to maybe automate watering in the future? If so, how do you think you'd do it?

(Edit; specified).
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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Thanks man!, but yeah, don’t grow blind!.. These aren’t “toys”, but a real set of protection for your eyes!.. you can’t replace those for $120 bucks :). ... I don’t think we would opt for auto watering with an operation this small. We kinda like the idea that this is craft bud, and we monitor every plant, every day. And even at that, we have a system for the days feeding that really only requires 2-3 hours a day to take care of things. We work together to identify those that need water/feed, and then while she drops those flags, I’m mixing up the solution, testing PH and PPM while she is preparing the water log. She will start watering, and I will follow up behind and sign off on the water log, and reset the flag on that particular plant. At the end of the session, we have a detailed log sheet of what got what, with a date and notes for the day like temps, RH, if we changed something, or if we installed a new piece of equipment (like today, a 3rd dehuey).. when you do it over and over again, we just get faster at it. We have an audio system in there, and put it on a fav Pandora station and get to work!, it goes by pretty quick. I even hang out afterwards and just look at shit.
 

2com

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Thanks man!, but yeah, don’t grow blind!.. These aren’t “toys”, but a real set of protection for your eyes!.. you can’t replace those for $120 bucks :). ... I don’t think we would opt for auto watering with an operation this small. We kinda like the idea that this is craft bud, and we monitor every plant, every day. And even at that, we have a system for the days feeding that really only requires 2-3 hours a day to take care of things. We work together to identify those that need water/feed, and then while she drops those flags, I’m mixing up the solution, testing PH and PPM while she is preparing the water log. She will start watering, and I will follow up behind and sign off on the water log, and reset the flag on that particular plant. At the end of the session, we have a detailed log sheet of what got what, with a date and notes for the day like temps, RH, if we changed something, or if we installed a new piece of equipment (like today, a 3rd dehuey).. when you do it over and over again, we just get faster at it. We have an audio system in there, and put it on a fav Pandora station and get to work!, it goes by pretty quick. I even hang out afterwards and just look at shit.
Wouldn't that be great, replace eyeballs for $120. Sounds like you have a thorough system/procedure in place. That's great. I completely understand hanging out in a grow room/indoor garden. I've done the same. Though I think (know) I need some good headphones/earbuds immediately. Putting a cell phone in a cup just isn't cutting it anymore. Haha.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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Wouldn't that be great, replace eyeballs for $120. Sounds like you have a thorough system/procedure in place. That's great. I completely understand hanging out in a grow room/indoor garden. I've done the same. Though I think (know) I need some good headphones/earbuds immediately. Putting a cell phone in a cup just isn't cutting it anymore. Haha.
Yessir!.. I have tennitus (ringing in the ears), so when we have the vac/suction on, I put on some Bose noise canceling headphones and plug in my phone for some music. That vac can get annoying, and spike the ringing in my ears. It’s really kinda loud in there anyways with fans, intake.,dehuyes, vac, pumps etc.
 
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DoubleAtotheRON

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I don't know how many of you guys and gals are interested in Terpene Profiles, but Paige has developed a chart of our labs from the last run. We are working on an app so patients can pull these up and isolate terpenes that work for them, and what they do. They can then get a display of strains we offer they can help them. The label we use includes a QR code that patients can scan with their smartphones to pull up our lab results, and terpene profiles as well.. try it!Screen Shot 2020-02-17 at 10.46.30 PM.pngScreen Shot 2020-02-17 at 10.54.17 PM.png
 
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2com

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Yessir!.. I have tennitus
Me too.
I don't know how many of you guys and gals are interested in Terpene Profiles, but Paige has developed a chart of our labs from the last run. We are working on an app so patients can pull these up and isolate terpenes that work for them, and what they do. They can then get a display of strains we offer they can help them. The label we use includes a QR code that patients can scan with their smartphones to pull up our lab results, and terpene profiles as well.. try it!View attachment 4482238View attachment 4482240
That's dope!
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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Me too.

That's dope!
Thanks!.. Oklahoma is getting more and more educated on terps.. at the beginning of last year, everyone was like "give me your highest THC strain"...THC don't mean shit. We've had 7% THC, but with good terpene profiles that would knock your socks off compared to like one of our Sour D's with 21% THC, and only 2 terps.. Most of these Ethos strains are coming in with 8-14 terps.
 

2com

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Thanks!.. Oklahoma is getting more and more educated on terps.. at the beginning of last year, everyone was like "give me your highest THC strain"...THC don't mean shit. We've had 7% THC, but with good terpene profiles that would knock your socks off compared to like one of our Sour D's with 21% THC, and only 2 terps.. Most of these Ethos strains are coming in with 8-14 terps.
Yea, I think there's too much emphasis on thc content alone as well, generally speaking. Maybe that's not everywhere.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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Yea, I think there's too much emphasis on thc content alone as well, generally speaking. Maybe that's not everywhere.
Since we have hard numbers on our strains, and after trying every one of them.. it truly is science. Some make me paranoid, and others sleepy.. and we are finding out what terps do what.. some are great for anxiety, depression, and others are good for appetite, energy, pain, gastro intestinal problems... it's really interesting.
 

GBAUTO

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I'm just trying to imagine how I'd feel just sitting amongst the girls.
I only have a 5x5 so I suspect it'll be an order of magnitude.
Absolutely agree on the importance of terp profiles on efficacy.
Damn, son......
 

ianc4990

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Thanks!.. Oklahoma is getting more and more educated on terps.. at the beginning of last year, everyone was like "give me your highest THC strain"...THC don't mean shit. We've had 7% THC, but with good terpene profiles that would knock your socks off compared to like one of our Sour D's with 21% THC, and only 2 terps.. Most of these Ethos strains are coming in with 8-14 terps.
Do that many terps muddle the taste? And I get that you want the effects, but wont some terpenes have possible counter-effects on others like some cannabinoids do with each other?
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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I'm just trying to imagine how I'd feel just sitting amongst the girls.
I only have a 5x5 so I suspect it'll be an order of magnitude.
Absolutely agree on the importance of terp profiles on efficacy.
Damn, son......
Thanks!.. it's very gratifying.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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Do that many terps muddle the taste? And I get that you want the effects, but wont some terpenes have possible counter-effects on others like some cannabinoids do with each other?
The taste,.. no. It's like a complex wine, you taste wood, earth, pine, lemon, etc.. the more terps, the better.. you just have to know and find certain ones that are dominate for what you're looking for like pain relief, sleep, etc.
 
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