Stunted growth week 8 vegetation

KamikaziSam

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I mean don't listen to ANYBODY....except your plants...Look at what they are telling you....Burned tips only at the top of the plant is light burn......Is it 1000w actual draw or on the package? Remember old leaves don't Heal....Also I just read what you said....Umm how often are you watering....If the roots aren't healthy the plant will show light stress also....
How often are you watering? You are in coco? I've never grown in that...you either need to water more, or water less...Do the exact opposite of what you are doing...Cut off the most obviously damaged leaves and observed any new growth...as your plant gets better gradually bring the light closer...
I water on the third day. 2 or 3 dry days. The package says 1000 watt LED. But after investigation I realized it's only 270 watt really watch MAX.
I grow in a mix of organic coco and peat with a shit load of perlite. I never water until I'm sure that the pot is light.
 

KamikaziSam

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I mean don't listen to ANYBODY....except your plants...Look at what they are telling you....Burned tips only at the top of the plant is light burn......Is it 1000w actual draw or on the package? Remember old leaves don't Heal....Also I just read what you said....Umm how often are you watering....If the roots aren't healthy the plant will show light stress also....
How often are you watering? You are in coco? I've never grown in that...you either need to water more, or water less...Do the exact opposite of what you are doing...Cut off the most obviously damaged leaves and observed any new growth...as your plant gets better gradually bring the light closer...
Sorry I thought I replied.
Real wattage is 270 w max. Mix of organic soil and coco with a shit load of perlite. There's new growth on the lower branches that are in turn growing taller. I went from 5 stagnant colas to almost 10 more. But what baffles me are the tips that refuse to open. Thr Internodes are very close to each other.
 

Highlife42

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Hydroscript said it already- Light burn.. If your actual draw is only that much. Its still too close. I recommend putting the light at 50-56cm(20-22") Humidity needs to go up to at least 60% and temps should increase to ~78-80F
 

hydroScript.js

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Sorry I thought I replied.
Real wattage is 270 w max. Mix of organic soil and coco with a shit load of perlite. There's new growth on the lower branches that are in turn growing taller. I went from 5 stagnant colas to almost 10 more. But what baffles me are the tips that refuse to open. Thr Internodes are very close to each other.
Close nodes...are usually a good think...but there's gonna be less node spacing the more light you have...send a pic of what u mean...let me grad my laptop brb
 

Blue brother

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At week 8 of veg you really want higher (~70) humidity and higher (28’c) temperature. Get your VPD right and your plants can use more light. I personally don’t drop to below 50rh until the last few weeks of flower.
 

hydroScript.js

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Tight nodes aren't a bad thing...Hopefully, with these nodes being so tight, these buds connect....I'm only in my 2nd week of flower...Still two months to go at least so they are going to be huge I hope....
This one is a GSC which is supposed to be a low yielder but she looks like she gonna make some flowers....she's wide AF and every one of her
72 cola's stems are this same size because of super-cropping, lst, and tons of air movement.... The other picture is of one of my blue dream...she has 48 tops! 20210404_054649.jpg
 

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hydroScript.js

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Close nodes...are usually a good think...but there's gonna be less node spacing the more light you have...send a pic of what u mean...let me grad my laptop brb
Also I have 300W actual draw from my LED lights and I use about 6 square feet.....that's about 50w per square foot. I keep my lamp about 18 inches away for most of veg except right at the beginning where I started at 3 feet and then lowered it an inch or two a day till I got it where it is today. Since I was new everyday I checked my plants to make sure there were no signs of light burn if there wasn't I lowered it an inch or two. I did that until one day I checked my plants and noticed some light bleaching at the tips of the leaves closet to the top (nearest the light) it was at that point I said, ahha...and raised it one inch. Since then my plants have been happy. I'm in flower now so I'm about 14 inches away with an eventual goal of letting the plants grow till they are 12 inches away and then gradually start raising the light with the plant.
 

KamikaziSam

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Hydroscript said it already- Light burn.. If your actual draw is only that much. Its still too close. I recommend putting the light at 50-56cm(20-22") Humidity needs to go up to at least 60% and temps should increase to ~78-80F
Close nodes...are usually a good think...but there's gonna be less node spacing the more light you have...send a pic of what u mean...let me grad my laptop brb
Here are the pics. At this point I don't know what I'm doing. Everyone is giving a different answer
 

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Blue brother

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Bro they aren’t bad, sometimes you gotta let things just play out and see what they are for yourself. I admit it does look like the very early onset of symptoms due to excessive radiation (light). If your vpd is off though it causes all manor of other problems, one of them being the plant responding poorly to intense light. Deficiency’s are often caused by poor management of the vpd also
 

iamrt

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Here are the pics. At this point I don't know what I'm doing. Everyone is giving a different answer
I realize you are getting a lot of answers but my suggestion is extremely easy to test and you have your answer within 24 hours. Raise your heat! Your VPD is way off. This is extremely common for new growers using LED’s. Your leaf temp is likely in the low 60’s even though your air temp is 71. I’m certain your room environment is causing this, not light burn. Test my theory easily, stick a heater in there and let it run and see if the plants perk up and start growing again. When your grow room is too cold your plants do not uptake water and nutrients at the correct rate and it causes all kinds of deficiencies and other issues. Google “cannabis vpd issues” and you will find a ton of info and pics that look like your plant. This is an easy fix and your plants will be off and growing again in no time. Good luck!
 

KamikaziSam

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I realize you are getting a lot of answers but my suggestion is extremely easy to test and you have your answer within 24 hours. Raise your heat! Your VPD is way off. This is extremely common for new growers using LED’s. Your leaf temp is likely in the low 60’s even though your air temp is 71. I’m certain your room environment is causing this, not light burn. Test my theory easily, stick a heater in there and let it run and see if the plants perk up and start growing again. When your grow room is too cold your plants do not uptake water and nutrients at the correct rate and it causes all kinds of deficiencies and other issues. Google “cannabis vpd issues” and you will find a ton of info and pics that look like your plant. This is an easy fix and your plants will be off and growing again in no time. Good luck!
Thanks for your reply. I'll keep you posted in few days.
 

Blue brother

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I realize you are getting a lot of answers but my suggestion is extremely easy to test and you have your answer within 24 hours. Raise your heat! Your VPD is way off. This is extremely common for new growers using LED’s. Your leaf temp is likely in the low 60’s even though your air temp is 71. I’m certain your room environment is causing this, not light burn. Test my theory easily, stick a heater in there and let it run and see if the plants perk up and start growing again. When your grow room is too cold your plants do not uptake water and nutrients at the correct rate and it causes all kinds of deficiencies and other issues. Google “cannabis vpd issues” and you will find a ton of info and pics that look like your plant. This is an easy fix and your plants will be off and growing again in no time. Good luck!
What he said
 

JSB99

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Is 30 inches away good for 1000w LED?
You can have your lights at 30", 22", or even 10", depending on how cool you can keep the plants, the strain, the humidity, and the amount of circulation. I'm above 80k lumens for most of the canopy, and have my array of qb132s as close as 10".

The sun is a million lumens (I thinks) when it hits outside plants, but there's also a vast amount of circulation that can't really be produced with fans.
 

kratosxxl

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At week 8 of veg you really want higher (~70) humidity and higher (28’c) temperature. Get your VPD right and your plants can use more light. I personally don’t drop to below 50rh until the last few weeks of flower.
wondering how u fight PM ? at this size plants rh 55-60 is best and safest, 70 good for clones but not 8 week veg , at this stage the should be drinking a lot no need for high humidity
 
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