Anyone know what shooting powder and top booster actually are? From the H&G nutrient line?

Adi1989

Adi1989

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xtsho said:
Which one? I've been mostly doing organic using KNF and JADAM methods lately but those are too much trouble for a small indoor grow and are best left for a larger outdoor organic grow or for a vegetable garden. Prior to that I was growing in coco using just some basic nutrients with great results. My current indoor grow is in soil but my next is going to be back to coco and salt based nutrients. It's just easier and I don't feel like messing with stinky homemade organic fertilizer for my indoor plants.

Coco and just a basic nutrient that supplies what the plant needs is all that really needs to be done. Nutrients are not the first and foremost thing to be focused on. Used properly they'll all work. Focusing on environment and adequate lighting is more important than brand of nutrient or using additives. Environmental conditions are much more important than anything that comes in a bottle.

This is what I've used for years. Just a blend of cheap salts that provide everything the plant needs.

Nothing fancy and the Micro is similar to Jacks. Put out by what was the oldest hydro shop in Portland until they recently moved to Oregon City next to Flying Skull which makes Nuke Em and have a line of salt based nutrients that are descendents. VitaGrow has been used for decades by cannabis growers in the Portland area both small and large scale. It's all you need for a non-organic grow.

I can't find any information but it used to be called Golden Grow decades ago. Someone from the area might remember it.


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ive just looked it up but it seems I cant buy that in the Uk sadly, a few people have mentioned Athena nutrients I can get this in the Uk do you rate them?

Straingly Athena dont do any Enzymes or anything to keep the root zone clean though
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Adi1989

Adi1989

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xtsho said:
Which one? I've been mostly doing organic using KNF and JADAM methods lately but those are too much trouble for a small indoor grow and are best left for a larger outdoor organic grow or for a vegetable garden. Prior to that I was growing in coco using just some basic nutrients with great results. My current indoor grow is in soil but my next is going to be back to coco and salt based nutrients. It's just easier and I don't feel like messing with stinky homemade organic fertilizer for my indoor plants.

Coco and just a basic nutrient that supplies what the plant needs is all that really needs to be done. Nutrients are not the first and foremost thing to be focused on. Used properly they'll all work. Focusing on environment and adequate lighting is more important than brand of nutrient or using additives. Environmental conditions are much more important than anything that comes in a bottle.

This is what I've used for years. Just a blend of cheap salts that provide everything the plant needs.

Nothing fancy and the Micro is similar to Jacks. Put out by what was the oldest hydro shop in Portland until they recently moved to Oregon City next to Flying Skull which makes Nuke Em and have a line of salt based nutrients that are descendents. VitaGrow has been used for decades by cannabis growers in the Portland area both small and large scale. It's all you need for a non-organic grow.

I can't find any information but it used to be called Golden Grow decades ago. Someone from the area might remember it.

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so you ferment your own?
How do you get a good npk ratio doing this? What sort of things to you ferment for your N P and Ks

i was thinking of fermenting the leaves you strip off when defoliation I guess that will be mainly Nitrogen
Could you ferment bat guano for your Phosphorus

then ferment seaweek for your potassium?
 
xtsho

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Samwell Seed Well said:
the grower at a farm i consult for uses vita. good stuff. def KISS
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It's as simple as it gets. I like it because it dissolves completely and nothing precipitates out of solution. Lots of growers that have been around awhile still use it. I used to be able to walk to American Agriculture to get it at the source but they've moved next to the Flying Skull Facility about 1o miles away. It's nothing more than a micronutrient blend and repackaged calcium nitrate and MKP. I'd mix my own micronutrient blend but then I'd have to buy a bunch of different stuff, figure out ratios, etc... It's so cheap I just buy the premix.
 
Star Dog

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Samwell Seed Well said:
ndole 3, Tricontanol, Brassinolide, alminos, kelp, root excellrator, em1, enzymes, worm castings,
Azomite, biochar, molasses, mycorrhiza



you guys are afraid of nutrients ..... funny as fuck

all that stuff is golden

Ndole 3 increases the plants ability to transfer mobile and imbobile nutrinets through its xylem

tricantonaol is a natrually existing PGR that will help your buds mature is found in honey

brassinode is a PGR that increase healthy and stress coping

aminos you plant will die without these, although they make them when healthy naturally without issues, i dont think they need to add them but i havent seen any negatives

root excellerator is an amazing product try it you will have faster rooting, sucks to suck

etc etc etc... all those additives are bomb. you people are funny
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Do you have any pics of your grow, I don't mean any disrespect but talk is cheap?
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Adi1989 said:
so you ferment your own?
How do you get a good npk ratio doing this? What sort of things to you ferment for your N P and Ks

i was thinking of fermenting the leaves you strip off when defoliation I guess that will be mainly Nitrogen
Could you ferment bat guano for your Phosphorus

then ferment seaweek for your potassium?
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You're getting into another topic entirely.

I started a thread over in the Organics section and there are other threads on the subject. That's a better place for that discussion.

KNF and IMO "Indigenous Microorganisms"

So I'm transitioning from chemical fertilizers to organic which will be the method I use to grow everything from vegetables to flowers and of course cannabis. My first foray into making my own organic soil was not very successful so I went back to chemicals and coco with some plants in store...
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Anyone using JADAM/KNF?

I bought some 55gal plastic food storage barrels that I was collecting rainwater in, but this year, I decided to use 3 of them for JADAM and I made JLS. This smells so bad that I decided to use JADAM outside and KNF indoor. I don't really have any specific questions, I'm just curious if anyone...
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rkymtnman

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Samwell Seed Well said:
what cal mag thing.... lol

without a lot of other info i u cant answer anything about the cal mag thing

coco 100% strips calcium, coco is reactive this is basic

and your plants use calcium a semi mobile nutrient for literally dozens of biological functions

its broken down into enzymes amino acids other usable forms of calcium

what is the argument

that you dont know why plants need cal or elevated amounts of cal for certian reasons at certain times
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seriously, do you comprehend English?
 
jondamon

jondamon

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Adi1989 said:
what nutes do you use to grow beauty like that?
could you tell me some ppms for veg and flower please
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Here’s the nutrients I’ve used this time around.

100% coco.

veg EC- 0.6-1.0
Dutch Pro Hydro coco Grow soft water A/B

Calmag (0.2EC bump every feed)



flower EC- 1.0-1.4 (tapering down towards the end of flower)

Dutch Pro Hydro coco bloom softwater A/B

Calmag (0.2EC bump every feed)

Monopotassium Phosphate (>0.1EC bump for a couple of weeks)

Magnesium Sulphate

some of this I don’t use all the time. For example the Magnesium Sulphate is used later in flower once or twice as sulphur is supposed to help terpenes.

With the coco I multi feed every day.
 
jondamon

jondamon

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rkymtnman said:
are you in the UK or the EU? never heard of that brand before. is it fairly cheap?

i always wanted to try Hesi but i've never gotten around to it. you ever run them before?
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I’m In the U.K. the nutrients are Dutch. Lol.

I really like them. It’s about £15 for A/B 1 litre of each.

I will at some stage probably move to a dry salts product at some point for the sheer price reduction.


if I flower 4 plants I can get through quite a lot of nutrients.

With a single plant in an 8L pot of coco it doesn’t take much to flood the pot and obtain runoff.
 
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