2021 Massachusetts Outdoor Growers

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p59teitel

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Still have three in the ground dealing with 70 mph winds. Went out last night and stuck a few more stakes into the ground when I saw which way the wind was whipping a couple of them. Woke up and found Tirah 3 snapped over with busted main stem - no worries really about that as I was 50-50 on chopping her over the weekend and ran out of time, and having her bent over will make it easier to chop lol. The smaller one to the right was only leaning and not broken so I jammed another stake in the ground, or should I say mud, and pulled her up. The big one in the middle is hanging in there OK and I’m going to have to keep her going at least two more weeks if I can as she is wicked slow to finish.

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StoneSoup

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p59teitel said:
Got the seeds from The Real Seed Co. Collected from Tirah Maidan (Valley), Pakistan, a tribal
area about 30 miles SW of Khyber Pass -

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This region is along the 33rd parallel, which the cannabis eggheads view as some sort of demarcation line between what people typically call Sativas and Indicas. I’m beginning to agree with the more progressive eggheads who don’t think such cut and dried classifications really apply - I figured I’d get more Indica looking plants but they all have long nodes and are very tall and rangy. As far as shade goes I can report the mosquitos were very appreciative that I made a jungle for them to hang out in this year.

This plant actually grew by herself with fat colas on the ends quickly diminishing to almost nothing closer to the main stem - like lollipops. I yanked yellow leaves but did nothing else. Some critter chomped her top back in June so her main stem ended about six feet up. She still shot branches up to 12 feet. The other Tirah all had more typical growth along the branches. Only trimming was done down close to the ground by wascally wabbits, at first I was aggravated but they actually did me a service by keeping things clear near the ground.

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I harvested by cutting branches and then recutting them to separate the plump stuff from the less dense parts. The plump stuff will be cured as flower as she has a grape/allfruit jelly aroma that I think will make some nice bud, and the rest will go up in the attic to dry with the other plants until the winter to make dry sift hash. I selectively pollinated and repro’d seeds from the two male Tirah I grew, one of them was a similar red branched plant so I hope the progeny end up like their mom. Which I will find out whenever I get around to growing this strain again, as I have the following awaiting the next decade or three in the freezer: Kabul, Mazar-i-Sharif, Sholgar, Rustam Kush, Rabat, Tashqurghan and an mix of four varietals all from Afghanistan, plus Kumaoni and Rasoli from the Indian Himalaya, more of these Tirah plus some collected from different fields there, plus my own repros of Balkh, Afghani and South Waziristani from Pakistan that I made last year…pretty much set for life lol
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What did you especially like about this strain that led you to purchase it? i.e. when perusing through real seed co.'s website, what made you stick with the Tirah?

I just haven't been able to shake the argument that unless you have an f3+ pheno of something acclimatized to your area, it's hit or miss in regards to how well that 5 pack of seeds is going to do (even if you purchased them knowing they have all the right qualities for your area).

I also don't mean to cause trouble or stir up controversy, rather just like playing devils advocate
 
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bgc2020

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my greenhouse structure is taking a beating in this weather. Glad I harvested 4/5 plants last weekend but the 1 remaining plant, Tranquil Hashplant, does not seem to be doing too bad. She drew the short straw back in July and was only given a 10 gallln pot while all the others got 20-25 gallons so I’m letting her have some more time to swell/bulk.

i also have one branch remaining on the Bodega Punch by Eastcoast Cultivars. I accidentally harvested her last week when I thought giving everyone a thorough soak of Doctor Zymes would be a good idea. Unfortunately the extra weight caused her branches to split from the main stem and I had to harvest earlier than planned. She would have benefited from stretching her intoNovember. O well, still tasty and effective
 
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p59teitel

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StoneSoup said:
What did you especially like about this strain that led you to purchase it? i.e. when perusing through real seed co.'s website, what made you stick with the Tirah?

I just haven't been able to shake the argument that unless you have an f3+ pheno of something acclimatized to your area, it's hit or miss in regards to how well that 5 pack of seeds is going to do (even if you purchased them knowing they have all the right qualities for your area).

I also don't mean to cause trouble or stir up controversy, rather just like playing devils advocate
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Didn’t put a huge amount of research into it. I’d grown their Balkhi and Waziri the year before and wanted to try a different regional varietal. The strain description said they had a narcotic effect and I like that at night. I’m a lightweight and three or four bong hits is all it takes, so I don’t need plants that produce crazy high THC levels.

I did see that the Tirah was from an area of Pakistan that has the monsoon so I figured it might have decent resistance to the local plagues. There has been some variation in the 8 females, but overall I’d grade them as having good resistance. I had no clue that they would love the climate here, they almost tripled in height in June and kept right on climbing during the soggy cool July. I wish they’d started flowering earlier but not much I can do about that outdoors.

To your point about inconsistency, I did run into that last year with the Waziri. The two females were polar opposites - one was short with tight nodes and fat colas that were quite susceptible to botrytis, the other was stretchy. The short one had like a lime margarita scent and the stretchy one smelled of garlic. Interestingly, the effects from both are very similar, a nice upbeat strain that makes me want to do things so good for daytime.
 
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p59teitel said:
Didn’t put a huge amount of research into it. I’d grown their Balkhi and Waziri the year before and wanted to try a different regional varietal. The strain description said they had a narcotic effect and I like that at night. I’m a lightweight and three or four bong hits is all it takes, so I don’t need plants that produce crazy high THC levels.

I did see that the Tirah was from an area of Pakistan that has the monsoon so I figured it might have decent resistance to the local plagues. There has been some variation in the 8 females, but overall I’d grade them as having good resistance. I had no clue that they would love the climate here, they almost tripled in height in June and kept right on climbing during the soggy cool July. I wish they’d started flowering earlier but not much I can do about that outdoors.

To your point about inconsistency, I did run into that last year with the Waziri. The two females were polar opposites - one was short with tight nodes and fat colas that were quite susceptible to botrytis, the other was stretchy. The short one had like a lime margarita scent and the stretchy one smelled of garlic. Interestingly, the effects from both are very similar, a nice upbeat strain that makes me want to do things so good for daytime.
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How often would you (or anyone else) say you're running strains that you specifically seek out for their compatibility to your growing region vs. a strain that you're just interested in growing in general? Does one really perform any better than the other?
 
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oldsilvertip55

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CCGNZ said:
Here's the trick I use dude, I sit down in my kitchen w/my scissors, I put a 8 gallon pot on the stove and heat it up to a slow boil, the steam this produces just the right amount of moisture to freshen the weed back up without it really getting wet,works wonders,from there right into airtight tupperware cont.,don't forget the stem in the bud still has a little moisture in it also,2months is really not to long as it perks right back up just w/steam in the air.ccguns
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i take notes, my old skull tends to lose stuff in file locker.
 
Poco56

Poco56

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I ran across this site link in another blog… I’m a little sensitive these days to scoping out mildew resistant strains for next year and still stewing like a jilted schoolboy at what pm and mold can do to an otherwise purdy grow. As it’s been pointed out to me already in this my 1st year outside, Mother Nature rules, resistance is futile! :wall::D https://moldresistantstrains.com/
 
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p59teitel

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StoneSoup said:
How often would you (or anyone else) say you're running strains that you specifically seek out for their compatibility to your growing region vs. a strain that you're just interested in growing in general? Does one really perform any better than the other?
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I won’t attempt the impossible, like strains that take 20 weeks to flower. Other than that I choose what interests me.
 
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p59teitel

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In addition to the plants in the ground this summer, I ended up fostering plants for a friend - I’d given her the seeds to get started but her cats wouldn’t leave them alone and she didn’t have a good outdoor situation, so back they came. They ended up in 2 gallon bags so stayed small. Wound up with four girls, three Balkhi and one Waziri. Just bucked the Waziri and holy smokes, she is stupid sticky and has the same pine and garlic smell my favorite plant from last year did, which was her mother. Not a trace of rot on her too. My friend likes the Balkhi best so I’ll keep this one - got about .8 oz off her -

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PioneerValleyOG

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p59teitel said:
In addition to the plants in the ground this summer, I ended up fostering plants for a friend - I’d given her the seeds to get started but her cats wouldn’t leave them alone and she didn’t have a good outdoor situation, so back they came. They ended up in 2 gallon bags so stayed small. Wound up with four girls, three Balkhi and one Waziri. Just bucked the Waziri and holy smokes, she is stupid sticky and has the same pine and garlic smell my favorite plant from last year did, which was her mother. Not a trace of rot on her too. My friend likes the Balkhi best so I’ll keep this one - got about .8 oz off her -

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stunning.
 
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StoneSoup

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Has anyone run auto's outdoors with any success here in N.E.? Obviously yield may be lower but the plant it Memorial Day, be done by Labor Day schedule is pretty attractive. Or plant it early and get two cycles in
 
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bam0813

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I have a friend who grows autos indoor and he doesn’t hardly ever save time only the fact he doesn’t have to change his light cycle. Imo you could stagger the germination to get a prolonged harvest a couple weeks apart but you wouldn’t be able to get two full runs outdoors
 
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Goodshit97

Goodshit97

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StoneSoup said:
Has anyone run auto's outdoors with any success here in N.E.? Obviously yield may be lower but the plant it Memorial Day, be done by Labor Day schedule is pretty attractive. Or plant it early and get two cycles in
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All the autos ive grown inside took about 18 weeks from seed.

The 1 auto i grew outside this year i ended up just throwing away. With all the rain it had wet feet her whole life and wouldve been about a half ounce UN trimmed if even that.
 
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StoneSoup

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Goodshit97 said:
All the autos ive grown inside took about 18 weeks from seed.

The 1 auto i grew outside this year i ended up just throwing away. With all the rain it had wet feet her whole life and wouldve been about a half ounce UN trimmed if even that.
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We're they in pots? Contemplating running them in the ground, perhaps a little unconventional. Guess you really don't know what works for each other until you actually do it though - can read a thousand textbooks about growing but won't know unless you try type of thing
 
bgc2020

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I think last night was the first hard frost for my area… I need to check on those last 2 plants I left standing. Also need to start dry trimming the plants I harvested last week and eventually setup the tents and autopots for indoor growing.
 
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bgc2020 said:
I think last night was the first hard frost for my area… I need to check on those last 2 plants I left standing. Also need to start dry trimming the plants I harvested last week and eventually setup the tents and autopots for indoor growing.
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one of those plants just got tossed on the compost pile. It was small and too many questionable spots to be worth my time. Lots of room to improve next year.
 
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