4 32 site xl undercurrent systems in a 20X40 room

killakanna · Mar 22, 2020

What strains are you growing atm? Insane what some people are charging for some cuts around here. $2500 for one cut of Gelatti?

bdt1981 · Mar 23, 2020

Carolina Dream'n said:
That spartan 6 isn’t even comparable. It’s like apples and oranges. That spartan is for home growers. All the power goes through the controller. It can only run 15 amps. Not gonna work here. You can only run one humidity station on it too. It just doesn’t even compare.
The trolmaster is all 24v relays. No power goes through the controller meaning I can run WHATEVER I want on it. 220v dehumidifiers, 110v humidifiers,hardwired mini splits, hard wires central a/c. It can run all your lights, dimming at a certain temp and shutting off at another.

You really can not compare one of those “master controllers” with a Trolmaster hydro-x.
It’s hand down the best controller I’ve used, and I’ve messed with $60k greenhouse controllers.

Hell yea. There is a huge difference in running a window unit at home and running12tons. The price isn't even that bad. Plus add smoke detectors and water sensors. I'm going to get the trolmaster!

bdt1981 · Mar 23, 2020

killakanna said:
What strains are you growing atm? Insane what some people are charging for some cuts around here. $2500 for one cut of Gelatti?

I have an awesome gold leaf and the blue dream is great as well. I'm letting the lost cause go. Just not keeper material. I'll be testing out watermelon zkittlez, do-si-dos zkittlez, nl x skunk and sensi skunk with my 12 site system and prob a full system of the dream and gold leaf. Only thing is the gold leaf dont like lot of nutes. Here is a pic of it tho. Some kill.

bdt1981 · Mar 26, 2020

Im going to predict 25-27 lbs this run. Definatly not what was hoping for but im still working on a few things and neglected to use co2. Ill look for the positive and now know for sure without a doubt co2 in veg and mid flower gives you more plant and more yield. I have read it has and hasnt so... another positive is my pheno hunting is still under way. Out of the 2 runs i keep the ilgm gold leaf, the ilgm blue dream and lost cause from a different breeder. i got them from a friend. Its crazy how different the finished product is from coco to the uc. Maybe its the cs nutes... mine smells looks and taste way better. Ill do away with the rest. Do one more pheno hunt with the seeds i popped and hope to have 6 good solid moms. Study up on the vpd stuff. Probably do at least 1 change out in flower next time. Add a 10 burner generator and get to work.

killakanna · Mar 26, 2020

bdt1981 said:
Im going to predict 25-27 lbs this run. Definatly not what was hoping for but im still working on a few things and neglected to use co2. Ill look for the positive and now know for sure without a doubt co2 in veg and mid flower gives you more plant and more yield. I have read it has and hasnt so... another positive is my pheno hunting is still under way. Out of the 2 runs i keep the ilgm gold leaf, the ilgm blue dream and lost cause from a different breeder. i got them from a friend. Its crazy how different the finished product is from coco to the uc. Maybe its the cs nutes... mine smells looks and taste way better. Ill do away with the rest. Do one more pheno hunt with the seeds i popped and hope to have 6 good solid moms. Study up on the vpd stuff. Probably do at least 1 change out in flower next time. Add a 10 burner generator and get to work.

whoever told you that CO2 doesn’t make a difference in yield has no fucking clue what they’re talking about. 27 pounds will easily turn into 35+..Once everything else is dialed in, there isn’t another thing that’ll bring your yield up more.

killakanna · Mar 26, 2020

bdt1981 said:
Im going to predict 25-27 lbs this run. Definatly not what was hoping for but im still working on a few things and neglected to use co2. Ill look for the positive and now know for sure without a doubt co2 in veg and mid flower gives you more plant and more yield. I have read it has and hasnt so... another positive is my pheno hunting is still under way. Out of the 2 runs i keep the ilgm gold leaf, the ilgm blue dream and lost cause from a different breeder. i got them from a friend. Its crazy how different the finished product is from coco to the uc. Maybe its the cs nutes... mine smells looks and taste way better. Ill do away with the rest. Do one more pheno hunt with the seeds i popped and hope to have 6 good solid moms. Study up on the vpd stuff. Probably do at least 1 change out in flower next time. Add a 10 burner generator and get to work.

That’s why I was tellin you to call me.

IMO you can up your genetics as well, though blue dream is fire, I’m not sure if ILGM is the most reputable source of it. You spent a fkton on equipment, time to make the most of it!

killakanna · Mar 26, 2020

bdt1981 said:
I have an awesome gold leaf and the blue dream is great as well. I'm letting the lost cause go. Just not keeper material. I'll be testing out watermelon zkittlez, do-si-dos zkittlez, nl x skunk and sensi skunk with my 12 site system and prob a full system of the dream and gold leaf. Only thing is the gold leaf dont like lot of nutes. Here is a pic of it tho. Some kill.

Damn, I ate my words. That gold leaf looks pretty terp’d up!

bdt1981 · Mar 27, 2020

killakanna said:
That’s why I was tellin you to call me. IMO you can up your genetics as well, though blue dream is fire, I’m not sure if ILGM is the most reputable source of it. You spent a fkton on equipment, time to make the most of it!

Man yhe dream and gold leaf are pretty legit. I doubted ilgm at first. My buddy got a bunch of seeds dropped 300 and very few were weak plants. Mostly had vigor. There is definatly better but ilgm is pretty consistant and all of them except the bubblegum were dam good but the gold leaf is fire dream is fire his ban as na kush was fire.

bdt1981 · Mar 27, 2020

killakanna said:
whoever told you that CO2 doesn’t make a difference in yield has no fucking clue what they’re talking about. 27 pounds will easily turn into 35+..Once everything else is dialed in, there isn’t another thing that’ll bring your yield up more.

Its been a while but i know i have saw people argue over how much diff it makes. It makes a good one.

bdt1981 · Mar 27, 2020

Oh yea one other thing i forgot to mention is that i used 3/4 strength nutes instead of 1/2. I knew better750 is unnecessary and to much imo.

bdt1981 · Mar 27, 2020

Here couple more pix. Im also going to spread my lights out a little bit. I should have them about 7' apart side to side and they are like 5' because i have 1 light over 4 plants which is ok but not how to get the most even light distribution. Especially running at 115%.

Carolina Dream'n · Mar 29, 2020

bdt1981 said:
Its been a while but i know i have saw people argue over how much diff it makes. It makes a good one.

It’s all based on VPD. Run a high VPD (14 Kpa+)you won’t see much of a difference. Run a solid VPD (8-10 Kpa) you’ll see a huge difference. The plant will actually be able to exchange gases because the stomata will stay open.

killakanna · Mar 29, 2020

Carolina Dream'n said:
It’s all based on VPD. Run a high VPD (14 Kpa+)you won’t see much of a difference. Run a solid VPD (8-10 Kpa) you’ll see a huge difference. The plant will actually be able to exchange gases because the stomata will stay open.

100% the truth! VPD has a huge effect on the exchange of gases for plants

bdt1981 · Mar 29, 2020

Carolina Dream'n said:
It’s all based on VPD. Run a high VPD (14 Kpa+)you won’t see much of a difference. Run a solid VPD (8-10 Kpa) you’ll see a huge difference. The plant will actually be able to exchange gases because the stomata will stay open.

Vpd wasnt talked about when i was last growing. Least i never saw it. I think im starting to see tho.

killakanna · Mar 29, 2020

bdt1981 said:
Vpd wasnt talked about when i was last growing. Least i never saw it. I think im starting to see tho.

Yeah I think I was tellin you to monitor it like 20 pages back, haha

bdt1981 · Mar 29, 2020

killakanna said:
Yeah I think I was tellin you to monitor it like 20 pages back, haha

Havent really had time to sit down and look at it tho. Ill figure itt out

bdt1981 · Apr 14, 2020

So here we go again. Last pheno hunt run. Watermelon zkittlez, do-si-dos zkittlez, sensi skunk, nl x skunk. Threw a few gold leaf in there as well. Starting ppm 80 on one and 70 on the other. Will start the 12 other sites tomorrow. Running co2 going to do change outs every 2 weeks. The canopy wont be completely even with all the different strains but im good. Have some baskets very similar to cch2o modular cages. Here is my first pic. I moved the lights up to about 10 feet keeping eye on vpd this go. Excited i am. Nug of the blue dream.

bdt1981 · Apr 21, 2020

Getting kind of bored here. Hit 23-24 lbs. Sux didnt use co2. Should do better. But im already started my next run just got my harvest finished yesterday. Here a couple pix at day 4

bdt1981 · May 6, 2020

So im getting the building next to mine and going to set up a 32 site system ovrr there with lids that are dual holes. Veg then flower in my room. Going to only cost 1000 more per month

Mr_Manny_D · May 7, 2020

bdt1981 said:
So im getting the building next to mine and going to set up a 32 site system ovrr there with lids that are dual holes. Veg then flower in my room. Going to only cost 1000 more per month

Did you ever add Co2 after all? If so, Generator or tanks? Peace.

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