4 32 site xl undercurrent systems in a 20X40 room

bdt1981

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Can you explain more about the cleaners you used and how they were applied. Thank you.
Its called garden clean and there is one called prokure
Can you explain more about the cleaners you used and how they were applied. Thank you.
Garden clean it's a chlorine dioxide gas and it comes in a cup with a fill line. You fill with water and put the packet in there and leave the water goes from yellow to clear and then its done.
 

Apalchen

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That place I posted got their ig shut down already, but tiki madman says those are the legit place to source his clones in OK and to dm him if need the info for the OK verified vendor. I'm picking up some tiki breeder cuts tommorow from his vendor in my state, I'll let ya know how it goes.
 

2klude

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Great setup and journal... have a few questions:

- What are you doing for IPM?
- What is the height the Gavitas are hung at? I'm scaling the photos by looking at the door heights... looks like your lights are hung about 9' from the floor? If could do me a big favor, could you measure from the floor to the top of your ballast.
- What the spacing measurement between the lights?
- I see you're vegging under Gavitas. I plan to do the same... any tips you can provide. I assume you have the Gavitas dimmed way down and just ramp up the %. I'm wondering how often and how much your bring the intensity up? Do you think 3 Gavita pro 1k's over a 5x16' table would work well for veg?

Any insight is much appreciated, thank you.
 

bdt1981

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Great setup and journal... have a few questions:

- What are you doing for IPM?
- What is the height the Gavitas are hung at? I'm scaling the photos by looking at the door heights... looks like your lights are hung about 9' from the floor? If could do me a big favor, could you measure from the floor to the top of your ballast.
- What the spacing measurement between the lights?
- I see you're vegging under Gavitas. I plan to do the same... any tips you can provide. I assume you have the Gavitas dimmed way down and just ramp up the %. I'm wondering how often and how much your bring the intensity up? Do you think 3 Gavita pro 1k's over a 5x16' table would work well for veg?

Any insight is much appreciated, thank you.
Yes 3 will work. Mine are 7 or 7.5 ft apart width ways. Gavita has a light foot print that i went off of. The distance is farther the more lights you have. Im about 10.5-11 ft to top of ballast. I start at 50% and move up to 100 during veg. I did hit 115% but i think i need to raise my lights if i run at full power. Put the lights 4ft from where you think your plants will end up. Of course if u have the right ac. Im sorry not sure what ipm is i can go search and find out quick. If its about pests i dont have any really. Got couple thrips from a buddy and they were easy to get gone acting fast. Ill go look at ipm
 

bdt1981

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Great setup and journal... have a few questions:

- What are you doing for IPM?
- What is the height the Gavitas are hung at? I'm scaling the photos by looking at the door heights... looks like your lights are hung about 9' from the floor? If could do me a big favor, could you measure from the floor to the top of your ballast.
- What the spacing measurement between the lights?
- I see you're vegging under Gavitas. I plan to do the same... any tips you can provide. I assume you have the Gavitas dimmed way down and just ramp up the %. I'm wondering how often and how much your bring the intensity up? Do you think 3 Gavita pro 1k's over a 5x16' table would work well for veg?

Any insight is much appreciated, thank you.
Ipm pest managment. I havent had any problems but i examine any clones i bring in and use a sulfer spray from home depot. Like orchid something. Wouldnt use in flower much and i washed the buds a bit in the 3 bucket wash method only using baking soda and lemon juice in first bucket. My friend uses big time exterminator and its priced way better than trifecta
 

bdt1981

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So im expanding into my offices i have like 4 at 10x10 i was thinking about using t5 or led in 3 2x4sog and stack another on top of each and get actually 12x8 canopy space. T5 actually dont do to bad on a straight out of the cloner into 12/12 lightcycle under t5 in the brginning of my post i shared some pix of a grow i was working and we did it and the buds were legit that came off. All about 18-24 inches tall. Not sure on the actual weight but i know we used 4x4 small pots and put about 4per sf. Im going to try running 24 or so in 1 gallon pots and leave sone space. I ran a couple small sog off to the side of my last run in just soil perlite mix with cs nutes and its crazy how much better some stuff does in soil. Like it seems there is definatly some strains that do not grow as good in hydro. The glue produced small buds then i removed them early about 10days because they cant hang anywhere near a pm spore. They are a magnet. Maybe if i never introduced it it wouldnt have got it butvonce it was theye it was all over it. Funny because its a super nice glue vigor for real. The buds are small but supreme. I heard it was from a tommy chongvseed but idk. Back to the sog. The best bud quality with the least amount of work to maintain. Something i was wrong about when i started. To hell with trying to maintain a bunch of big ass plants. The branches grow so crazy in the uc. Its a shit load of work. Im thinking a sog is a good idea. I could probably go 3 high vertical. I now know to make money you better cover every sf possible in your floor space or spaces. The tough bit is that many clones. I guess off set the rooms by 2 weeks and pull a room every 2 weeks once goinggoing to have to bring in some help. I was so wrong to think i could handle this shit on my own. I could only imagine if i was using all 24 gavitas on 3 systems. I would have probably givin up. It sure takes up lots of time. Livin the dream in a sense tho.
 

Apalchen

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Big plants are a bitch, I'm dealing with the adjustment now since we have plant count limits here. I tried to tell you before that since no plant count limit to just fill tables with plants. Just need a few shelves for clones and some decent size mother plants. I'm having to rethink my veg now and probably build a second veg room since the plants need to get so big before going to flower.

I also completely underestimated the amount of work this was all gonna be and my space is smaller than yours. I have my wife to help but the majority falls on me. After I finish the build out completely and get on schedule things should go a little smoother.

I never even thought of where to dry all my product before it happened, didn't realize what kind of space that would take lol.

I just keep upgrading and figuring things out as I go. I hit 2.3 per gavita last run no C02, added c02 this run so hopefully I'll do a bit better, should know real soon.
 

bdt1981

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Big plants are a bitch, I'm dealing with the adjustment now since we have plant count limits here. I tried to tell you before that since no plant count limit to just fill tables with plants. Just need a few shelves for clones and some decent size mother plants. I'm having to rethink my veg now and probably build a second veg room since the plants need to get so big before going to flower.

I also completely underestimated the amount of work this was all gonna be and my space is smaller than yours. I have my wife to help but the majority falls on me. After I finish the build out completely and get on schedule things should go a little smoother.

I never even thought of where to dry all my product before it happened, didn't realize what kind of space that would take lol.

I just keep upgrading and figuring things out as I go. I hit 2.3 per gavita last run no C02, added c02 this run so hopefully I'll do a bit better, should know real soon.
Ur killin it. You were right. I underestimated in a lot of areas. And thought i was over estimating. Lol. Only overestimation i did was on yield. Haha. Typical... Im going to roll with the uc still got a dosidos zkittlez and watermelon zkittlez that yield nice buds and heavy. Great quality.
 

bdt1981

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So i hear that some people are trying to put stipulations on the clones they are selling to try and make it where you arent supposed to clone off the clone you buy from them. To me that is retarded. If they dont want people to clone off their shit i would think they prob shouldnt sell plants. Lol. How greedy that is to try and make it where u cant clone the plant you just bought. Lol. Charge a lot if u want but damm sure know ill cut clones all i want off my plant that i bought.
 

Apalchen

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So i hear that some people are trying to put stipulations on the clones they are selling to try and make it where you arent supposed to clone off the clone you buy from them. To me that is retarded. If they dont want people to clone off their shit i would think they prob shouldnt sell plants. Lol. How greedy that is to try and make it where u cant clone the plant you just bought. Lol. Charge a lot if u want but damm sure know ill cut clones all i want off my plant that i bought.
Fuck those kinds of people, if I buy something it's mine to do whatever I want with it. There are def some breeders that have gotten upset over it with seeds. If the clone was gifted to me under the condition not to release it to others I would understand that, because I feel like that about one of my mothers, although I'm starting to think sharing is best in case something ever happens I can get my cuts back.
 

ttystikk

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Fuck those kinds of people, if I buy something it's mine to do whatever I want with it. There are def some breeders that have gotten upset over it with seeds. If the clone was gifted to me under the condition not to release it to others I would understand that, because I feel like that about one of my mothers, although I'm starting to think sharing is best in case something ever happens I can get my cuts back.
Big plants indoors in a production setting was my specialty. If you have any questions I'd be happy to help.
 

Apalchen

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Trimmed up the first plant from the harvest last night was 1130 grams wet. We wet and dry trim because there is only two of us doing it all so we start with wet and finish off the rest after dry. I'd prefer dry but that would mean paying people to come in and get it done to stay on schedule and I try to avoid hiring outside help mostly because of trust issues lol.

I'm almost positive I'm gonna hit 3 per light this time.

As far as help with the big plants, it's more my timing is off and veg space isn't big enough. I end up with plants way too big during veg which requires chopping on them several times before there is room in a flower room. I need more veg space and I'll be starting on that shortly but until that's finished I need to take clones later than I have been so they don't out grow my space.
 

bdt1981

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Trimmed up the first plant from the harvest last night was 1130 grams wet. We wet and dry trim because there is only two of us doing it all so we start with wet and finish off the rest after dry. I'd prefer dry but that would mean paying people to come in and get it done to stay on schedule and I try to avoid hiring outside help mostly because of trust issues lol.

I'm almost positive I'm gonna hit 3 per light this time.

As far as help with the big plants, it's more my timing is off and veg space isn't big enough. I end up with plants way too big during veg which requires chopping on them several times before there is room in a flower room. I need more veg space and I'll be starting on that shortly but until that's finished I need to take clones later than I have been so they don't out grow my space.
How long u veg? That will dry out at about 225gs pretty good.how many lights?
Also im new to instagram and not sure how to find what im looking for. Clones near me.
Im going to set up some vertical farming trays any recomendation for led lights to use? The shelves will have like 4 or 5 ft between them.
 
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