40+ lbs with 12 Plants in 2 Rooms on a Flip

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2com

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Renfro said:
I was bored one night while my girl was watching a chick flick so I made a little spreadsheet to track my coco watering times. This will be handy for future implementation of an auto watering system.

It also makes it so I don't have to think much (mental math is not my strong suit) about when the next watering should be. It uses the interval between the last watering to calculate and estimated time for the next watering. Of course I know that the plants will change if I drop the humidity for example I need to check a little early. I also know the plants will increase drink at certain point and suddenly slow down at some point and I watch for that and adjust timing accordingly. The log allows me to track the room average with multiple strains. Then in the future my auto watering schedule can be setup to match the predicted plant needs. Of course I will have to build some sorta project like an audrino or something to handle that I suppose.

Contrary to common belief coco can be over watered. It doesn't stay over saturated as long as soil and shouldn't be allowed to dry out as much as soil but it does need to dry out some. You don't have to be nearly as precise with watering coco when you err on the side of not letting it dry out but when the plants suddenly slow down on drink, usually somewhere around day 52 of 12/12, you can get root rot if you keep watering at the same frequency that you were when the plants were in thirsty mode. Opposite can be said earlier in flower when they suddenly speed up on drink. Strains vary of course but knowing that it will happen around a certain time allows you to watch for it and be ready to adjust your timing.

Anyways here is my little spreadsheet.

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I just enter when I water in the "Watered column" and it does the math. I can make a chart with the watering interval numbers. I can put notes when things happen like if daylight savings time happens or if I notice the plants are speeding up or slowing down on drink... I also have a column for my RH% setting because changing that has an effect on watering frequency. Honestly I added columns for pH and feed mix too lol. It calculates the flower day too. I even used some "IF" statements so it wouldn't show bogus numbers below the row data has been input. Has a sheet for room A and room B.

Gotta love excel, probably the most handy program for growers (other than a web browser lol).
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I'm guessing you use excel on a daily basis, probably for work. Lol.
 
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Fucked up thing about my spreadsheet, as soon as I made it the Gorilla Glue and Mimosa started drinking every 11 hours and the others want 16 hours. smdh. can't win even with coco. Just wanna water them all at once, even if it's twice a damn day.
 
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Renfro said:
Fucked up thing about my spreadsheet, as soon as I made it the Gorilla Glue and Mimosa started drinking every 11 hours and the others want 16 hours. smdh. can't win even with coco. Just wanna water them all at once, even if it's twice a damn day.
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If we had an auto watering system, that would be nice. Some days are harder that others, but like today, only 7 out of 122 needed feed/water. Easy day. But tomorrow, you never know, we might have 23 that need water, and 18 that need feed. Paige likes to saturate the shit out of them, so the runoff is crazy. We usually figure 3 gallons per plant after we get a count on what needs what in 7 gallon pots. We prob waste of bunch of nutes, but it makes her happy for some reason. She's a woman, so I just let her do her thing. LOL.
 
Renfro

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DoubleAtotheRON said:
@Renfro Is this the Coco Cork you were telling me about by DNA?
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Yes, I love it. The plants are really liking it. I do have to water it more often than soil and it is more forgiving about watering than soil (had to let tht dry all the way). At least with the coco I can water some plants a little early and go to bed lol.

I just can't get comfortable with automating watering unless I am monocropping.
 
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Renfro

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I like to water heavy but you can over water coco so I wanna let it dry out to where my soil moisture meter reads middle green, with soil I have to let it get to the bottom of the green. Some strains just drink a lot less or they do their speed up and slow down at different times.
 
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DoubleAtotheRON

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Renfro said:
I like to water heavy but you can over water coco so I wanna let it dry out to where my soil moisture meter reads middle green , with soil I have to let it get to the bottom of the green. Some strains just drink a lot less or they do their speed up and slow down at different times.
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Yes sir!.. They do!. in soil, we wait til it's just about in the red, and some may look like they are starting to droop a little, then feed the shit out of them. We are interested in looking into the DNA Coco Cork next run tho for sure.... The bark in the BM7 seems to crash your PH like you said.. We still have to feed in at 7.25-7.5 to maintain mid 6's. We go through a lot of Rasta PH up. I have found that Rasta is much more powerful that the GH we were using. Rasta at least gives what's in it on the label. GH really gives no info other than its Phosphoric Acid.
 
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I use the Advanced pH buffers, they are the strongest I know of that are marketed to growers. One could always just buy concentrated lab grade acids and bases like phosphoric acid and potassium hydroxide and potassium carbonate.
 
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Renfro said:
Well she is on state healthcare so it's not like there is an abundance of opinions being offered lol. She had been to the er 3 times before they finally admitted her into the hospital. the dr at the hospital says he has seen at least 20 cases of CHS, and he was young. Thing is she had smoked before the first ER visit, but after that she was so sick she didn't want to smoke anything. So she has been like a week without weed and she is still sick. It's supposed to pass in 4 or 5 days from what I gather. Anyways time will tell if they are correct, she plans to stop smoking weed and eating edibles. So if she continues to get sick then it's not cannabis. If it is CHS then thats fine, she just doesn't wanna come home and be in pain and vomiting again. The ER was less than helpfull, they just assumed she was trying to get pain meds when all she wanted was to be able to eat and not get terribly sick and be in a lot of pain. she also says she feels like there is a mass pressing on her stomach when it hurts. She hasn't held down food in over 5 days and held down very little for a couple days before that. I feel so bad for her. they looked at her stomach and it's fine. Her gall bladder has stones but they said the test doesn't show any inflammation of the gall bladder.
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Because the THC is stored in fat cells it can take longer to clear her system.
 
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So babies that I have vegging for next round:

Gelato 33 - Larry Bird Cut
GMO - Skunkmaster Flex Cut
Blue Cookies
Freezer Burn x Lemon Fire - Caps Cut
Mimosa - Symbiotics Breeder Cut
Kushmints - Rabbid Hippy Cut
Punch Breath
OCD x M15 - Caps Cut
MAC 1 - Caps Cut
Romulan
Sunset Sherbert x High Octane - Breeders Cut (BX1)
Wedding Cake

Notice no Glue? Still have it as a mommy but giving her a minute off.

I have noticed with the coco the plants definitely grow more like in hydro as opposed to soil. Hollow stems is a hydro trait and I am seeing that, all of the sudden during week 3 the plants ramped up on drink, I have some that drink every 7-8 hours, some every 10-12. I am letting them dry to where my moisture meter reads middle green instead of bottom green as I did with soil, they seem to like that. Have a couple punch breath plants that weren't drinking nearly as fast as the others when I first moved them into 10 gallon pots and the flowering rooms, I was watering them with the others and it stunted them for sure, you can over water coco. So I started using the moisture meter and letting the plants tell me when it's time. So much for being able to water all the plants at once twice a day. The mimosa and GG4 for example are super thirsty while the Divine Gelato 33 is really slow. Normally I don't have to run a dehumidifier until much later but I am really having to crank the dehu's for the last 5 days or so even though it's low outside as usual. The plants are just transpiring a lot more. Growth was extreme, and because of that many got a little taller than I would like so I am having to fight that. Also had some strains I didn't run before. If I stick with coco I will definitely be doing an auto watering system because these plants have me on the short leash. I digress, I am rambling.

Day 28 - A couple shots from tonite, sorry about the HPS, left my grow glasses in my car.
 

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