480 or 600w bar led for a 4'x4'?

Noodles42 · Dec 19, 2021

Hi everybody.
I just got a 4x4 tent and was wondering if a 480w led is enough for it or do I need more power like a 600?

I don't want to spend the money on a 600w if I'm only going to ever run it @ 80% but I don't want to get a 480w and find out I should have gotten a more powerful light.

Can someone help and maybe give me some ideas of what light would be a good fit?

SNEAKYp · Dec 19, 2021

You will be just fine with 480w. 600w will last you longer and help you control temps better though. Just a trade off you make for cost.

If you can afford it, go with the 600w.

Milky Weed · Dec 19, 2021

You can get by with 500 watts in there. More watts is not always better I found out. But something cool to remember is you can get Higher watt fixtures and just dial them down. I would get a nice bar style led.

bk78 · Dec 19, 2021

More than likely the 480 will have a smaller footprint than the 600?

Meaning the 480 will probably be like 3’ x3’ in size? The 600 will cover the 4x4 perfect for coverage.

If the 480 is a 4x4 sized light it will do the job that needs to be done imo.

Noodles42 · Dec 19, 2021

SNEAKYp said:
You will be just fine with 480w. 600w will last you longer and help you control temps better though. Just a trade off you make for cost.

If you can afford it, go with the 600w.

I'm trying to find something around $600 if that helps

hotrodharley · Dec 19, 2021

Noodles42 said:
Hi everybody.
I just got a 4x4 tent and was wondering if a 480w led is enough for it or do I need more power like a 600?

I don't want to spend the money on a 600w if I'm only going to ever run it @ 80% but I don't want to get a 480w and find out I should have gotten a more powerful light.

Can someone help and maybe give me some ideas of what light would be a good fit?

Buy the biggest. It dims. When you get a bigger tent you'll be glad.

Milky Weed · Dec 19, 2021

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other people mentioned discount codes but I don’t know for this exact light. I liked my ez 8 I got from them. you could get this and just turn it down. Outside of USA price is silly though.

hotrodharley · Dec 19, 2021

Milky Weed said:
I promise I don’t work for them

Smart-8 Full Spectrum LED Grow Light-760w, High PPFD, Tunable Spectrum - Medicgrow

Be smart about your choice! Meet the foldable Smart 8 led grow light that is designed specifically for high PPFD cultivation practices in medical growing. Smart 8 720 watt is built using high quality Sosen drivers and top bin LEDs from Osram generating a full-spectrum light source ideal for veg...

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other people mentioned discount codes but I don’t know for this exact light. I liked my ez 8 I got from them. you could get this and just turn it down. Outside of USA price is silly though.

How much?

Noodles42 · Dec 19, 2021

Milky Weed said:
I promise I don’t work for them

Smart-8 Full Spectrum LED Grow Light-760w, High PPFD, Tunable Spectrum - Medicgrow

Be smart about your choice! Meet the foldable Smart 8 led grow light that is designed specifically for high PPFD cultivation practices in medical growing. Smart 8 720 watt is built using high quality Sosen drivers and top bin LEDs from Osram generating a full-spectrum light source ideal for veg...

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other people mentioned discount codes but I don’t know for this exact light. I liked my ez 8 I got from them. you could get this and just turn it down. Outside of USA price is silly though.

That's nice looking for $599

lakesidegrower · Dec 19, 2021

hotrodharley said:
Buy the biggest. It dims. When you get a bigger tent you'll be glad.

yep, I regret not doubling my light budget last year - I'm a glutton for punishment
scrape and scrounge to cough up the extra cash for the 600W and you won't regret it

farmingfisherman · Dec 19, 2021

These are being advertised in my area. Price seems fair but don't know anyone who is using it.

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Bucsfan80 · Dec 19, 2021

Noodles42 said:
That's nice looking for $599

I agree

Buddernugs · Dec 19, 2021

600-650w is the sweat spot for 4x4….I’d get the 600w…..I run 600w on each side of my 4x8 and it fills it perfectly with 700-1000ppfd….a 450w light is not strong enough to light up a 4x4 space with the ideal amount of par (700-1000ppfd)….anything under 600-650ppfd is a waste of time and effort, anything over 1000ppfd without co2 is going to hurt your end yeild and quolity

hotrodharley · Dec 19, 2021

lakesidegrower said:
yep, I regret not doubling my light budget last year - I'm a glutton for punishment
scrape and scrounge to cough up the extra cash for the 600W and you won't regret it

Its like building a car. If you want performance everything is built around the drivetrain. Biggest engine you can afford. You just keep a light foot on the pedal. Or you can build a smaller weaker one and keep your foot in it. I prefer the first route. Better to have it and not need it than it is to want it and not have it.

Buddernugs · Dec 19, 2021

farmingfisherman said:
These are being advertised in my area. Price seems fair but don't know anyone who is using it.

Evol Grow 650-Si 650 Watt Full Spectrum LED Grow Light

The Evol Grow 650-Si is a 650w linear LED fixture utilizing top bin Samsung diodes over six bars with enhanced red spectrum.

www.eaglegrowlights.com

I’d stay away from any light your going to use in a 4x4 space that has less than 8 bars…..for two reasons …..reason number one as far as even light coverage and even par throughout the canopy, it’s going to be absolute trash that’s probably why they don’t have a par map listed….. reason number 2 is. Less bars mean last diode‘s which means you’re gonna cook the shit out of those diode‘s faster than you would if there were two more bars….just my 2c

Buddernugs · Dec 19, 2021

If anyone is looking to compleatly crush a 4x4 area with a light that is proven and cheep to boot…..I strongly suggest medic fold 8,with the ccfc discount….

Buddernugs · Dec 19, 2021

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hotrodharley · Dec 19, 2021

Noodles42 said:
That's nice looking for $599

That's a damned bargain with a self-contained controller. I'll be looking at one.

Milky Weed · Dec 19, 2021

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farmingfisherman · Dec 19, 2021

Buddernugs said:
I’d stay away from any light your going to use in a 4x4 space that has less than 8 bars…..for two reasons …..reason number one as far as even light coverage and even par throughout the canopy, it’s going to be absolute trash that’s probably why they don’t have a par map listed….. reason number 2 is. Less bars mean last diode‘s which means you’re gonna cook the shit out of those diode‘s faster than you would if there were two more bars….just my 2c

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