All in one organic bug sprays

Howdy newbie here wondering if there is any type of organic multi insect spray... lol I know silly question. I wad just tending today and noticed I had run into my first bug problem ever. . I'm one week into flower growing in a tweeked sub cool super soil basically n top dress just last week with the inner contents of my compost tea bag and sense then Gabe had dozens of what look like little Flys around to stalk n under canopy of a few my bigger plants.. wis I got to snap a pic was super busy and forgot though. .. they looked like little fruit Flys they were buzzing around the soil for the most part but some were on backs of leaves wondering if anyone has any input on this... will be posting pictures asap

Captain jacks (spinosad) and neem oil are what I use.

White oil.
Can be made at home as well.
Very cheap.

Killed my white fly issues!

And your bugs sound like fungus gnats!

If you want to go safe and organic, use diatomaceous earth on top of your soil and stick to insecticidal soap or insecticidal soap with pyrethrin.

As you are in flower, it's best to completely avoid oil based treatments like neem, white oil or horticultural oil. If you absolutely must use oil, only water in with solution, don't spray it on your buds

ZeroTrousers said:

As you are in flower, it's best to completely avoid oil based treatments like neem, white oil or horticultural oil. If you absolutely must use oil, only water in with solution, don't spray it on your buds

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Why are you suggesting not to use White oil when in flower? It only has a day holding period. Like any foliage spray, spray at lights off. Use sunflower oil in the recipe if you want to as there’s no chance that it could be genetically modified

Lucky Luke said:

Why are you suggesting not to use White oil when in flower? It only has a day holding period. Like any foliage spray, spray at lights off. Use sunflower oil in the recipe if you want to as there’s no chance that it could be genetically modified

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It's about residue. Unless you like smoking vegetable oils.

ZeroTrousers said:

It's about residue. Unless you like smoking vegetable oils.

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Im not sure about Neem but White oil only has a day holding period.

You can always wash your buds at harvest ( I do anyway these days) as well.

Lucky Luke said:

Im not sure about Neem but White oil only has a day holding period.

You can always wash your buds at harvest ( I do anyway these days) as well.

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You'll never get all of the mineral or vegetable oil off, nor for any other oil type; It binds to the trichs as they're lipophillic.

ZeroTrousers said:

You'll never get all of the mineral or vegetable oil off, nor for any other oil type; It binds to the trichs as they're lipophillic.

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I think your worried about nothing but OK.

Lucky Luke said:

I think your worried about nothing but OK.

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Mineral Oil is basically liquid parafin wax. It's not really good stuff to breath in, either raw or as partially burned combustion byproducts.

Neem, while safe on it's own is also no treat to breath in when being burned; ditto for horticultural oil blends.

Using oil sprays in flower is not a good idea, especially when you can use products that have a much shorter half life like pyrethrin.

ZeroTrousers said:

Mineral Oil is basically liquid parafin wax. It's not really good stuff to breath in, either raw or as partially burned combustion byproducts.

Neem, while safe on it's own is also no treat to breath in when being burned; ditto for horticultural oil blends.

Using oil sprays in flower is not a good idea, especially when you can use products that have a much shorter half life like pyrethrin.

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Sunflower oil is from plants.

But again, i think ur worried about nothing.

Lucky Luke said:

Sunflower oil is from plants.

But again, i think ur worried about nothing.

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Ok, throw a couple drops of sunflower oil in a pan and turn it up to maximum, inhale the smoke and tell me how it feels

Plant based oil is still oil, and therefore not something you want to inhale the smoke of.

ZeroTrousers said:

Ok, throw a couple drops of sunflower oil in a pan and turn it up to maximum, inhale the smoke and tell me how it feels

Plant based oil is still oil, and therefore not something you want to inhale the smoke of.

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yet we smoke hash oil eh?..
and use sunflower oil in cooking?....

Im not here to argue with ya. I just think ur making a big much a do about nothing.

I would like to offer a few pieces of my own humble advice. I hope this is helpful to someone.

*Never spray with any oils during flowering.
*Neem is exceptional to use for veg and once during stretch, as it kills all kinds of bugs, and powdery mildew. I have relied on it well for years. But I wouldn't purposely contaminate my medicine with residues.
* I have experience with washing crops after or just before harvest... it's a hassle, and obviously makes it take longer... and worse, the excess moisture provides a breeding ground for mold/mildew. Generally, rinsing is not something I support unless absolutely necessary.
* I recommend the use of habanero/garlic spray (easy to diy) for flowering insect control. A quick Google search provides so many great natural spray recipes that can be used throughout the flowering cycle.

Note that any extra moisture applied to buds will most likely contribute to botrytis (bud rot) airflow is key.

That's why most cultivators with exp. will tell you, it is best to resolve pest issues before the flowering stage whenever possible.

Good luck!

^ good looks everyone problem solved!