Anybody growing mushrooms willing to talk???

Drop That Sound

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If going for very long term storage, I bet displacing all the air in the jar with pure argon gas before you close the lid would work well. Or maybe nitrogen or other combo of inert gas, just like they seal up some cannabis packages with now.

You wouldn't likely need the silica gel pack because there is no moisture or oxygen present once you displace it all, other than what was in the product.

By argon gas, I mean the kind you buy in a spray can, for wine preservation. Art wine preserver, or bloxygen, etc. Or straight out of the welding tank? I dunno, but its safe for storing food as well as paints and stains.. I use it to preserve mixtures, but never for food or wine yet.



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keifcake

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Just placed an order with Dirty South Myco, 5 pack of Liquid Culture and APE Agar.

The LC I picked:
Storm Troopers
Dirty South Ghost
Steel Magnolia
Roger Rabbit
MVP

Let's see how well this works out, I already have some Agar jars prepped, and need to process some Grain this weekend so when it arrives I can get right to work on it.
 

Drop That Sound

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BTW guys, the ^ Holmes aer1 air purifier is on sale for 39.99, in case anyone were interested in making shmuv box flow hoods.

Not only that, but I found a killer deal on the true hepa performance plus 99.99% filters.


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$28 for a 2 pack on walmart right now. That's even cheaper than just one at target, let alone anywhere else. 2 filters will last a long time!

The air flowing in your large clear 30-50 gallon recycling bags/ or dry clean bags will be cleaner than in front of most peoples huge LFHs. Not only that, but easy to work in compared to SAB, and can fit massive amounts of grains/jars to work on. You work quick instead of slow. I wouldn't even recommend if I didn't research well. It works legit. ;)


EDIT: I'm gonna go ahead and get one, because it has built in ionizer that helps trap the particles even more. My DIY shmuv I was building is only a filter, unless I make a DIY inline ionizer for a few extra bucks)
 
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keifcake

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I'm still a bit intrigued by the use of that, but I don't think I'd like working in a bag. Maybe if I connected to a box, but I've already spent so much this past week I really don't need to buy anything else
 

Drop That Sound

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I'm building a SAB too. I have no idea what I like working in yet honestly. Gonna try both soon.

Also keeping my eye out for good parts I could make a nice LFH\full work bench from in the future. I have corian sheets picked out allready for the countertop bench, with enough for full back splash up the wall, for easy clean area.

I've seen a few people use them hooked to totes, but I believe having the bag actually creates some kind of true laminar flow, due to the fact the bag is constantly changing in shape along with the flow. Like, it absorbs any turbulent eddies that would otherwise be created in a solid box. Then again, some guys apparently had good luck with that, and even reused the arm hole cutouts like flappers.

I think the bag is the safest bet, the way it handles the flow. I'll try with a tote too maybe.

I wish someone would test one, with a fancy air quality meter. Find out what variations work best.
 

keifcake

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I don't mind this slightly bigger SAB I have now as much, a little more room would be nice, but it's fine.
I really need to get out and dig up and find the squirrel cage fan around the house and get to work on a laminar hood. Besides a filter I should be able to build it for around $100.... I just got to thinking about a craftsman work bench I may try to mount it on the backside of, then I could cut that cost down way lower.

Having the gloves in my SAB instead of just holes to reach through gives me a little peace of mind, it's been working fairly well so far, but I can't easily do a lot at once, maybe 7 jars in there max before it gets too cumbersome. The biggest drawback of the my SAB is not being able to have a flame in it because it wont light, so I ordered a box of 100 syringes and a box of 100 blunt tip needles this week.
 

keifcake

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The turbulent flow in a box is the biggest problem I see with connecting it to a box.

These rings are what I ordered for my SAB that you connect gloves to, I'd recommend getting them and a box large enough to work in.


Edit: and the gloves I use with, although the rings come with 2 pair
 

A.k.a

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It’s best to leave the gloves off if you’re making a SAB. They create push/pull suction as you move around to work and stir up the air. Really you can have the arm holes as big as you want no problem, as long as you learn proper SAB technique.
 

keifcake

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It's worked out well for me so far, i haven't had a lot of contamination issues since I started using it. The previous contamination I was getting could have been from dirty cultures or spores in syringes. Maybe I'll try it again sometime without the gloves, because it would be easier on some of the work.
 

keifcake

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The rings will probably be a little cheaper as high as those big pvc fittings have gotten. When I installed them on new box the cutouts I made weren't very clean with hot blade which had some big globs and I overtightened one a little making the flat part of the ring start to separate away, I put some epoxy all around to rejoin it, I doubt that will be an issue again now.
Even if not using gloves it's nice having the clean looking and feeling ports
 

A.k.a

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Oh definitely worth putting rings in the holes. I had a few inches with jagged edges on one of my arm holes that I didn’t bother smoothing out and they would scratch or catch on shit way too often.
 
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