AP- Biden: Social media platforms 'killing people' with misinfo

hanimmal

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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden said Friday that social media companies are “killing people” by failing to police misinformation on their platforms about COVID-19 vaccines.

Biden’s comments came a day after U.S. Surgeon General Vivek Murthy declared misinformation about the vaccines a threat to public health, and as U.S. officials advised that deaths and serious illness from the virus are almost entirely preventable because of the vaccines.

Biden, asked if he had a message for platforms like Facebook where false or misleading information about the coronavirus vaccines has spread, told reporters, “They’re killing people.”

“The only pandemic we have is among the unvaccinated,” he said.

Speaking Thursday, Murthy said misinformation about COVID-19, deemed an “infodemic” by the World Health Organization, was deadly.

“Misinformation poses an imminent and insidious threat to our nation’s health,” Murthy said during remarks Thursday at the White House. “We must confront misinformation as a nation. Lives are depending on it.”

Given the role the internet plays in spreading health misinformation, Murthy said technology companies and social media platforms must make meaningful changes to their products and software to reduce the spread of false information while increasing access to authoritative, fact-based sources.

Too often, he said, the platforms are built in ways that encourage, not counter, the spread of misinformation.

“We are asking them to step up,” Murthy said. “We can’t wait longer for them to take aggressive action.”

Facebook spokesperson Dani Lever responded: “We will not be distracted by accusations which aren’t supported by the facts. The fact is that more than 2 billion people have viewed authoritative information about COVID-19 and vaccines on Facebook, which is more than any other place on the internet. More than 3.3 million Americans have also used our vaccine finder tool to find out where and how to get a vaccine. The facts show that Facebook is helping save lives. Period.”

Twitter posted on its platform, “As the COVID-19 pandemic evolves around the world, we’ll continue to do our part to elevate authoritative health information.”
 

mooray

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At the same time, if all it takes is someone saying something on tv for you to kill yourself, then of course that's terrible, but maybeeee.....

 

Fogdog

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He should start with Fox News.Those fuckers are probably responsible for thousands of deaths, spewing BS to their brain dead viewer's
Their broadcast licenses should be pulled, they are a detriment/danger to this country, they really are.
Right wing radio has been the main source of disinformation in this country for decades.

they and the rich assholes that support them. Put them all in legal crosshairs.
 

Fogdog

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didn't they call your area The State of Jefferson early 1900s; the 49th state? XX for the double cross of Cali and Oregon?
Yep,

Oregon has a short but sordid history. At the present day, we are training grounds for Proud Boys. They practiced for Jan 6 at our State Capitol in December. They are now taking what they learned to other parts of the country and into larger cities like LA.

It's going to be a long, hot summer.
 

schuylaar

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Yep,

Oregon has a short but sordid history. At the present day, we are training grounds for Proud Boys. They practiced for Jan 6 at our State Capitol in December. They are now taking what they learned to other parts of the country and into larger cities like LA.

It's going to be a long, hot summer.
yeah so what are we gonna do about August? i don't get why the fuck EX-Mr. Insurrection gets to continue his decent into madness while dragging us with. is there not something, ANYTHING they can charge him with for Christ sakes?

just so we're square..it's been announced by our government that August is going to be a high alert month due to lies and chaos of our ex-president that we can't seem to shut the fuck up. do you see how this exposes us to the world? all faults and foibles.

THIS is wearing on 'we the people' to the point of suicide that no $1400 check will fix.
 
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Fogdog

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yeah so what are we gonna do about August? i don't get why the fuck EX-Mr. Insurrection gets to continue his decent into madness while dragging us with. is there not something, ANYTHING they can charge him with for Christ sakes?

just so we're square..it's been announced by our government that August is going to be a high alert month due to lies and chaos of our ex-president that we can't seem to shut the fuck up. do you see how this exposes us to the world? all faults and foibles.

THIS is wearing on 'we the people' to the point of suicide that no $1400 check will fix.
What do you want? Biden to suspend the constitution?
 

Fogdog

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are you no longer up to debate?
I'm trying to understand what you are debating. What would you have him do?

Declare martial law? Fund and empower a goon squad along the same lines as Proud Boys? Do those measures sound ridiculous to you? Why?
 

schuylaar

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I'm trying to understand what you are debating. What would you have him do?

Declare martial law? Fund and empower a goon squad along the same lines as Proud Boys? Do those measures sound ridiculous to you? Why?
well when crazy people act crazy in Florida they get Baker Acted..lets come up with ideas instead of throwing our hands in the air.
 

Fogdog

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well when crazy people act crazy in Florida they get Baker Acted..lets come up with ideas instead of throwing our hands in the air.
The part I disagree with is the "throwing our hands in the air".

They are acting, as required by the constitution. They are following due process in their prosecutions of the worst actors in the Jan 6 insurrection. They are investigating and trying to get lower level actors to flip and give testimony against the leaders. They are going after the sources of disinformation as well as chivvying social media into taking actions of their own. If they can finish the process before 2022, it will be a miracle. Surely you didn't think they would be done by now, what with the support Republicans are giving to the rioters, Trump and his cronies by denying the insurrection ever happened.

Meanwhile, Biden's team are doing a tops-to-bottom review of the military to ensure the fascist members of the armed forces are suppressed. They are working hard to roll back voter suppression laws. They are chasing down leads for violent actions, such as the people who were conspiring to commit mass murder at the all-star game in Denver this week.

This country is pretty much split down the middle and Biden is trying to hold it together while dealing with a violent reactionary minority through legal means. I support democracy and rule of law. Both are slow and uncertain but better than authoritarian rule.

So, I'm not calling you chicken little (yet), just trying to understand what it is you are expecting.
 

schuylaar

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The part I disagree with is the "throwing our hands in the air".

They are acting, as required by the constitution. They are following due process in their prosecutions of the worst actors in the Jan 6 insurrection. They are investigating and trying to get lower level actors to flip and give testimony against the leaders. They are going after the sources of disinformation as well as chivvying social media into taking actions of their own. If they can finish the process before 2022, it will be a miracle. Surely you didn't think they would be done by now, what with the support Republicans are giving to the rioters, Trump and his cronies by denying the insurrection ever happened.

Meanwhile, Biden's team are doing a tops-to-bottom review of the military to ensure the fascist members of the armed forces are suppressed. They are working hard to roll back voter suppression laws. They are chasing down leads for violent actions, such as the people who were conspiring to commit mass murder at the all-star game in Denver this week.

This country is pretty much split down the middle and Biden is trying to hold it together while dealing with a violent reactionary minority through legal means. I support democracy and rule of law. Both are slow and uncertain but better than authoritarian rule.

So, I'm not calling you chicken little (yet), just trying to understand what it is you are expecting.
we're witnessing a slow moving accident we've seen before..what am i'm expecting? just read your words before that last sentence.
 

Fogdog

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we're witnessing a slow moving accident we've seen before..what am i'm expecting? just read your words before that last sentence.
That is a declaration without explanation or alternatives given. I disagree but gave my reasons. You failed to address anything that I said.

Seems you don't really want a debate.
 
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