AP: The super spreaders behind top COVID-19 conspiracy theories

hanimmal

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A neighbor railed against the vax and told me to look that name up. I don’t politics with her any longer.
Yeah it sucks when you know that they are getting spammed with the same lies that are in the troll thread nonstop.

There are not enough hours in the day to overcome that level of brainwashing. Well, there are but what a pain in the ass it is to deprogram people when they resist it so hard.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Yeah it sucks when you know that they are getting spammed with the same lies that are in the troll thread nonstop.

There are not enough hours in the day to overcome that level of brainwashing. Well, there are but what a pain in the ass it is to deprogram people when they resist it so hard.
Just so. I keep it lite. She did turn my attention to the buzzard migrations. Saw my first beautiful stack of this year’s fall push yesterday.
lemons/lemonade

edit: when I put in suggestive search terms, Google kept sending me my usual fare. I think adaptive search is a Problem. If I have a hard time getting in, they will have a tougher one getting out.

It is a new and powerful evolutionary pressure. The Godzilla of search engines is doing the opposite of uniting us: it is doing much more than merely highlight tribal differences. It is actively and deliberately mediating speciation!
 
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hanimmal

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Just so. I keep it lite. She did turn my attention to the buzzard migrations. Saw my first beautiful stack of this year’s fall push yesterday.
lemons/lemonade

edit: when I put in suggestive search terms, Google kept sending me my usual fare. I think adaptive search is a Problem. If I have a hard time getting in, they will have a tougher one getting out.

It is a new and powerful evolutionary pressure. The Godzilla of search engines is doing the opposite of uniting us: it is doing much more than merely highlight tribal differences. It is actively and deliberately mediating speciation!
And dont forget the rabbit hole that is youtube. Start clicking on stupid shit and all it does is feed you more. Reenforce all the bullshit with any comment section that sends troll talking points (and more videos for people to click on to send them down the hates spiral) and links to bullshit propaganda websites that are disguised as 'news'.

Then you start liking shit on facebook and the trolls get activated there and feed you more bullshit, and before you know it, 24/7/365 stuck in a feedback loop of propaganda programed cult logic.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
And dont forget the rabbit hole that is youtube. Start clicking on stupid shit and all it does is feed you more. Reenforce all the bullshit with any comment section that sends troll talking points (and more videos for people to click on to send them down the hates spiral) and links to bullshit propaganda websites that are disguised as 'news'.

Then you start liking shit on facebook and the trolls get activated there and feed you more bullshit, and before you know it, 24/7/365 stuck in a feedback loop of propaganda programed cult logic.
This is my one social media presence.

I take comfort in the rather plausible idea that that any plans by our hosts to install social engineering features usually stop at the moment someone suggests a taco run.
 
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hanimmal

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Hmm, no way that there is anything like age limits on the boosters right? And elderly folks who are fully boosted might just end up in the hospital more right?

lol statistical troll games trying to spread Death Cult nonsense seems to be back on the menu the last couple days. Between Russia trolling with their nukes, the insurrectionists in the Oath Keepers being on trial, and Trump stealing national secrets and hiding them in his golf ranges it gets tough to know what the Right wing propagandists (even ones cat fishing as 'the left') are trying to hide.
 

hanimmal

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CLAIM:
Pfizer admitted to the European Parliament that it had not tested the ability of its COVID-19 vaccine to prevent transmission of the virus before it entered the market, proving the company lied about this earlier in the pandemic.

AP’S ASSESSMENT:
Missing context. Janine Small, president of international markets at Pfizer, told the European Parliament on Monday that Pfizer did not know whether its COVID-19 vaccine prevented transmission of the virus before it entered the market in December 2020. But Pfizer never claimed to have studied the issue before the vaccine’s market release.

THE FACTS:
After Small testified before the European Parliament’s Special Committee on the COVID-19 Pandemic, misleading claims about whether Pfizer knew the impact of its COVID-19 vaccine on preventing transmission spread widely on social media.

Rob Roos, a Dutch European Parliament member who asked Small a question about transmission at the hearing, tweeted: “BREAKING: In COVID hearing, #Pfizer director admits: #vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. ‘Get vaccinated for others’ was always a lie. The only purpose of the #COVID passport: forcing people to get vaccinated. The world needs to know. Share this video!”

The tweet, which included a video showing the exchange between Roos and Small, had received more than 232,000 likes and more than 166,000 shares by Thursday.

Other social media posts about the hearing used the hashtag #PfizerLiedPeopleDied.

At the hearing, Roos asked Small whether Pfizer had tested its COVID-19 vaccine for its ability to prevent transmission of the virus prior to its market release. Small answered: “No. We had to really move at the speed of science to really understand what is taking place in the market.” She went on to explain why Pfizer moved quickly to develop a COVID-19 vaccine as the virus spread worldwide.

While Roos and many others framed this as a new revelation, Pfizer never claimed that its clinical trial, upon which the vaccine was authorized for use, evaluated the shot’s effect on transmission. In fact, shortly before the vaccine’s release, the company’s CEO emphasized that this was still being evaluated.

A study funded by Pfizer and German vaccine maker BioNTech published in the New England Journal of Medicine on Dec. 10, 2020, a day before the Food and Drug Administration gave Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine emergency use authorization, did not include data about the vaccine’s effectiveness at reducing transmission of the virus.

Instead, it reported that two doses of the vaccine provided 95% protection against contracting symptomatic COVID-19 in people 16 and older. Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla also said in a December 2020 interview with NBC News that it was still unclear whether vaccinated individuals could carry the virus and transmit it to others.

“I think this is something that needs to be examined,” he told the network. “We are not certain about that right now.”

The FDA stated in a Dec. 11, 2020, press release announcing the authorization of Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine that “at this time, data are not available to make a determination about how long the vaccine will provide protection, nor is there evidence that the vaccine prevents transmission of SARS-CoV-2 from person to person.”

A Pfizer spokesperson told The Associated Press that its clinical trial was designed to evaluate the efficacy of its COVID-19 vaccine in preventing disease caused by the COVID-19 virus, including severe illness.

“Stopping transmission was not a study endpoint,” the spokesperson wrote in an email.

Asked for comment, Roos told the AP that he was not making a point about Pfizer, but about government mandates for the COVID-19 vaccines.

“I take fundamental rights seriously,” Roos wrote in an email. “For governments to infringe on them, they need a massive amount of evidence to prove the necessity. In this case, it was not even a part of the Pfizer trials.” He said that such mandates were based on “no evidence.”

But experts and research say that the COVID-19 vaccines have provided benefits in terms of limiting infections and transmission, at least with earlier variants of the virus and for a period of time after being vaccinated.

Dr. Walter Orenstein, associate director of the vaccine center at Emory University, told the AP that the fact that Pfizer did not address the vaccine’s impact on transmission during clinical trials is not unusual, because transmission is a complex metric to measure.

“It’s much more difficult to evaluate impact on transmission,” Orenstein, a professor of infectious diseases at the Emory School of Medicine, wrote in an email. “What is usually done is a randomized placebo controlled study, in which the recipients are ‘blinded (i.e., do not know whether they received placebo or vaccine.’”

Public officials have suggested on multiple occasions that COVID-19 vaccines prevent transmission, but that’s an overstatement. For example, in an October 2021 speech in Illinois, President Joe Biden said: “We’re making sure healthcare workers are vaccinated, because if you seek care at a healthcare facility, you should have the certainty that…the people providing that care are protected from COVID and cannot spread it to you. ”

While the vaccines do not eliminate all transmission, they can help. Studies done after distribution of the COVID-19 vaccines began, including research by Pfizer, did find that the company’s shot reduced asymptomatic infections in addition to symptomatic cases with earlier variants of the virus. Researchers in the United Kingdom reported in a February observational study that Pfizer’s vaccine helped cut transmission of the alpha and delta variants.

“Our study from earlier in the year shows that the Pfizer vaccine reduces transmission from people with breakthrough infections, at least in the 3 months post vaccine which we studied,” Dr. David Eyre, a professor of infectious diseases at the University of Oxford and lead author of the study, wrote in an email.

Experts have told the AP that while the original COVID-19 vaccines provide less protection against infection with the highly contagious omicron variant, they still protect against serious outcomes.

The CDC stated in an August report that receiving only the first one or two doses of a COVID-19 vaccine “provides minimal protection against infection and transmission” and that being up to date on all recommended booster doses “provides a transient period of increased protection against infection and transmission after the most recent dose, although protection can wane over time.”

Dr. Paul Offit, a member of the FDA’s Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee, explained that while the vaccines do provide neutralizing antibodies, which help protect against infection, those kinds of antibodies quickly wane — even as protection against serious illness continues to last.

“It is fair to say that when you get a vaccine that clearly decreases your chance of getting infected, it does,” said Offit, who is also the director of the Vaccine Education Center at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia. “And therefore it decreases your chance of spreading it to others. But it’s not in any way absolute.”

Offit added that messaging to the public around the vaccines early on was flawed and should have been focused on their core benefit — preventing serious illness and hospitalization — since many would later cast doubt on the vaccines’ success because of “breakthrough infections.”
https://www.rollitup.org/t/pandemic-2020.1008556/post-17129776
 

hanimmal

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WASHINGTON (AP) — The trial of a far-right extremist group leader and four associates charged in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol was delayed on Monday after the Oath Keepers leader tested positive for the coronavirus.

Jurors were supposed to begin hearing the fourth week of testimony in the case against Stewart Rhodes and four others accused of plotting to stop the transfer of power from Republican Donald Trump to Democrat Joe Biden.

The judge told lawyers and jurors to return Tuesday morning but it’s unclear when and how they will be able to proceed with the case.

An attorney for Rhodes, Ed Tarpley, said he was told by jail officials that his client is in “total isolation” at the jail and wasn’t even available for a phone call. Rhodes will be available in court next week at the soonest if he tests negative on Sunday, but could also waive his appearance in court to allow the testimony of some witnesses to go forward.

Prosecutors were expected to rest their case by the end of this week and then Rhodes’ attorneys were going to begin putting on their defense. Rhodes’ lawyers have said their client will take the stand to testify that all of his actions were in anticipation of orders he expected from Trump — orders that never came.

The defendants are the first among hundreds charged in the Capitol attack to stand trial on the charge of seditious conspiracy, a rare Civil War-era charge that carries a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison.

Prosecutors have said Rhodes and his extremist group planned an “armed rebellion” to keep Trump in power. Authorities say they had “quick reaction force” teams stationed at a Virginia hotel to get weapons into the city quickly if they were needed and that the group was prepared to stop Biden from becoming president by any means necessary.

Defense lawyers have accused prosecutors of cherry-picking messages and have said they came to provide security to political figures like Roger Stone, not to carry out a plan to attack the Capitol.

Testimony began on Oct. 3 and the judge had said witnesses could stretch into the week of Nov. 14. The stakes are high for the Justice Department, which last secured a seditious conspiracy conviction at trial nearly 30 years ago and intends to try two more groups on the charge later this year.

The disruption comes almost a week after a juror was dismissed after testing positive for COVID. The federal courthouse in Washington where the trial is being held last week lifted its mask mandate, but the judge overseeing the trial was still requiring those not speaking to wear masks to avoid an outbreak. Still, lawyers and defendants were occasionally seen with noses exposed or masks pulled down under their chin.

On trial with Rhodes, of Granbury, Texas, are Kelly Meggs, leader of the Florida chapter of the Oath Keepers; Kenneth Harrelson, another Florida Oath Keeper; Thomas Caldwell, a retired U.S. Navy intelligence officer from Virginia; and Jessica Watkins, who led an Ohio militia group. They face several other charges as well.

They are among roughly 900 people who have been charged in the attack, which temporarily halted the certification of Biden’s victory, sent lawmakers running for cover and left dozens of police officers injured.
 

hanimmal

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lol in the troll thread some stupid shit was posted and it looked like one of those spam triggering phrases so I figured I would check it out, turns out it is being click baited around the internet (lol gab).

I decided to click on the top result which I think is to some Clemson forum, that had a copy/paste of something from the Gateway Pundit.

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Over 100 million Americans were tracked from their cell phones and assigned “COVID-19 decree violation” scores throughout the Covid lockdowns.

PredictWise, a voter analytics firm, harvested location data from tens of millions of US cell phones and provided the data to Democrat campaigns and the Democrat National Committee to develop campaign ads targeting swing voters.

According to a PredictWise white paper, the firm harvested the data by surveilling “nearly two billion GPS [global positioning system] pings” to acquire “real-time, ultra-granular locations patterns.”

PredictWise assigned a Covid-19 decree score based on how much an individual adhered to lockdown restrictions and stayed home, “compliers” or disregarded quarantine measures and traveled away from their homes.

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The harvested data was then provided to the Democratic National Committee and the Democrat Parties in swing states to target “Covid concerned” Republicans with ads promoting Covid safety measures.

“PredictWise understood that there were potential pockets of voters to target with Covid-19 messaging and turned high-dimensional data covering over 100 million Americans into measures of adherence to Covid-19 restrictions during deep lockdown,” the firm’s white paper states.

“PredictWise targeted Republicans who scored high on our measure of Covid-19 decree violations (folks who were on the go more often than their neighbors) and Republicans who scored low on our measure of Covid-19 decree violation (folks who mostly or always stayed at home),” the firm notes.

Democrats in swing states have partnered with PredictWise, which “tracks the opinions, attitudes and behaviors” of over 260 million Americans or 78 percent of the US population,to target voters with ad campaigns.

The firm’s client lists include the Democratic National Committee, the Democrat Parties of Arizona, North Dakota, Ohio, Florida and South Carolina and Target Smart, an organization that provides political data for campaigns and advocacy organizations.

PredictWise claims the data, which identified “persuasion targets,” was provided to the Arizona Democrats to secure the electoral victory of Senator Mark Kelly.

“The Arizona Dems Coordinated Campaign in support of now U.S. Senator Mark Kelly was able to deploy this real-time location model to open up just over 40,000 persuasion targets that normally would have fallen off, allowing them to give the right message to the right voter at the right time,” the company states.

In addition to location and survey data, PredictWides notes that it also tracks “telemetry data,” which is “passively sourced cell phone data,” media consumption data and unregistered voter data.

Crate & Barrel, a furniture and home decor store, also provided data obtained from its online shoppers to PredictWise, the firm claims.
The New York Times added this:
Republicans whose phone locations showed that they left home a lot received high “COVID-19 decree violation” scores, while those who mainly stayed home received low scores, according to a PredictWise report. In follow-up surveys of some voters, researchers found that stay-at-home Republicans were almost as concerned about the pandemic as Democrats.
The firm said it had used the data to help Democrats in several swing states target more than 350,000 “COVID-concerned” Republicans with COVID-related campaign ads. In Arizona, PredictWise reported, the scores helped Democrats “open up just over 40,000 persuasion targets” for Mark Kelly, who was running for Senate. (Kelly’s office did not respond to emails and calls requesting comment.)

lmao at the top reply:
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Under it, there was a list of this troll's other threads:

The list of the front-page on the political section has telling too:
I figured I would check out the original comments (on Gateway Pundit) and the right wing fear bait messaging is on point.

And lol at Gateway Pundit.

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cannabineer

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lol in the troll thread some stupid shit was posted and it looked like one of those spam triggering phrases so I figured I would check it out, turns out it is being click baited around the internet (lol gab).



I decided to click on the top result which I think is to some Clemson forum, that had a copy/paste of something from the Gateway Pundit.

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lmao at the top reply:
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Under it, there was a list of this troll's other threads:


The list of the front-page on the political section has telling too:

I figured I would check out the original comments (on Gateway Pundit) and the right wing fear bait messaging is on point.



And lol at Gateway Pundit.

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My first bet was BitchUte.

Oh well, I bet a beer on it (against myself). It’s a bit early, but I better pay up. It’s the honorable thing to do.
 

BudmanTX

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lol in the troll thread some stupid shit was posted and it looked like one of those spam triggering phrases so I figured I would check it out, turns out it is being click baited around the internet (lol gab).



I decided to click on the top result which I think is to some Clemson forum, that had a copy/paste of something from the Gateway Pundit.

https://clemson.forums.rivals.com/threads/millions-of-americans-assigned-secret-‘covid-decree-violation’-scores-to-help-democrats-win-swing-states.245999/View attachment 5218250
lmao at the top reply:
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Under it, there was a list of this troll's other threads:


The list of the front-page on the political section has telling too:

I figured I would check out the original comments (on Gateway Pundit) and the right wing fear bait messaging is on point.



And lol at Gateway Pundit.

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please tell me, you didn't read those...
 
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hanimmal

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SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — A naturopathic doctor who sold fake COVID-19 immunization treatments and fraudulent vaccination cards during the height of the coronavirus pandemic was sentenced in California on Tuesday to nearly three years in prison, federal prosecutors said.

Juli A. Mazi pleaded guilty last April in federal court in San Francisco to one count of wire fraud and one count of false statements related to health care matters.

During Tuesday’s hearing, U.S. District Judge Charles R. Breyer handed down a sentence of 33 months, according to Joshua Stueve, a spokesperson for the U.S. Department of Justice.

Mazi, of Napa, did not immediately respond to phone calls and an email seeking comment. She was ordered to surrender to the Bureau of Prisons on or before January 6, 2023.

The case is the first federal criminal fraud prosecution related to fraudulent Centers for Disease Control and Prevention vaccination cards for COVID-19, according to the U.S. Department of Justice.

In August, Breyer denied Mazi’s motion to withdraw her plea agreement after she challenged the very laws that led to her prosecution.

Mazi, who fired her attorneys and ended up representing herself, last week filed a letter with the court claiming sovereign immunity. Mazi said that as a Native American she is “immune to legal action.”

She provided fake CDC vaccination cards for COVID-19 to at least 200 people with instructions on how to complete the cards to make them look like they had received a Moderna vaccine, federal prosecutors said.

She also sold homeopathic pellets she fraudulently claimed would provide “lifelong immunity to COVID-19.” She told customers that the pellets contained small amounts of the virus and would create an antibody response, they said.

Mazi also offered the pellets in place of childhood vaccinations required for attendance at school and sold at least 100 fake immunization cards that said the children had been vaccinated, knowing the documents would be submitted to schools, officials said.

Federal officials opened an investigation against Mazi after receiving a complaint in April 2021 to the Department of Health and Human Services Office of Inspector General hotline.

Last year the owner of a Northern California bar was arrested after authorities said made-to-order fake COVID-19 vaccination cards were sold at the establishment to undercover state agents for $20 each.
 
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