Blueberry, White Rhino and Great White Shark.....Oh My

Using 1/2 inch feed. I may have planted to deep though.

UPDATE 2-28-16

Its been a while since I made an entry. Plants seemed to be growing ok I guess. I decided it was time to hook up the "Turbo-Cloner"

Got it hooked up, read up a bit on aeroponic cloning and took some cuttings.

I cut my clones at a 45 degree angle, dipped them into Clonex gel and put them in the neoprene collars. Turned on the machine and BOOM.....no roots after 8 days and the leaves are starting to yellow.

Now of course I read up on everything after the fact and got a few pointers from some veteran growers. I dumped out my water, added Clonex solution (not the gel) for an extra $30 a quart! PH the water to 5.8 and let it rip again. I originally had 4 2ft T5 bulbs about a foot away. After some investigation I decided to have just 1 T5 bulb on. I am thinking this may have caused the yellowing of the leaves. Hopefully I will get some roots soon. Posted some pics.

I am hoping next post I will have some roots.

p.s. I have a dome on them but took it off for the pics.

Second update for the day/evening since my last post was 2 in the morning.

I HAVE ROOTS!!!!

Well sort of. I do have some spuds like a potato going on. This is technically day 9 so by tomorrow hopefully they will have grown out a bit.

Now not all of them have sprouts but a few and really I'm happy with that for now since I didn't think I was gonna get anything. So time will tell. Will update progress soon

Ive learned by accident that when i take my cuts i use rhyzotnic 5ml/gal and put some in a shot glass soak stems and then put into cloner.. In the res i run .6 ec clonex and the rhyzotonic. 3 days for massive root explosion. Everywhere it touches roots pop just wildly effecient.

UPDATE 3-4-16

OH MY GOD!

That was my reaction as I entered the room! I immediately starting feeding water from the res. Maybe I should of used straight tap but I just wanted to give them water quickly. They seemed like they are bouncing back.

Any suggestions???????

I don't know what happened. The timer and pump are both working and the temp never got over 84.

I did change the watering schedule on the timer last night but I gave it the same amount of time.....

So I think that may have had something to do with it. Anyway. I got new drippers/spikes today. I will mess around with it.

My biggest question is will these hermie? Someone said they have to be in flowering to hermie. I know these are all mothers right now. Hopefully they stay that way but I won't know for sure until the next time I take clones in 2 months. GEEZ....what a day!

Posted pics BEFORE and 3 hours AFTER

Is your system a recirc? If it is run the drippers 24/7.

Convention is that you can do as much stupid shit known to man in veg and they did bounce back so you should be ok to breath some releaf. Close call...

pinner420 said:

Is your system a recirc? If it is run the drippers 24/7.

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They are in rockwool covered in hydroton. The table drains the excess water back into the res. So essentially I think it is a recirculating res. I have 2 airstones in the res too. I didn't know if that would be watering them too much because of the rockwool but I know for a fact the roots have outgrown the 4x4 cubes underneath.

Cool the bigger the feed pipe the more DO. Move that solution fast... Well my girls put on 2.5 feet so gonna slap one in the boom boom room.

UPDATE 3-5-16

Today I put the clones that are in rockwool on a towel and tried soaking the excess water up. They were like heavy weights so I wanted to get some of the water out of them. The tops look iffy but I gave em a mist. I replaced my water pump in the rez, with one that pumps more gph. I put in a "t" to split the main line into 2 "8" line manifolds. So 16 lines all together for my drip. Right now just the mothers (which are still recovering) are hooked up. But when its time for the clones to have their own drip lines, I'm now ready.

Topped off the rez with some RO water and checked the pH. Airstones still running fantastic (lots of bubbles). Thats pretty much it. I'm just hoping these clones settle in and start growing. Getting a little impatient. Will update with pics soon.

Put a bypass on the pump t to a valve and increase DO.

UPDATE 3-11-16

Big update

Took many pictures of what is going on lately. I knew it wasn't going to be easy but why so hard lol.

RECENT QUESTION FROM ANOTHER POST I MADE CLICK HERE

If you been following various posts lately you would know about my 3 blueberry mother plants and 10 or so clones. I have been having issues lately of various browning and deficient looking leaves. Since no one really chimed in where I posted I was on my own. I hate to bother the board like a little kid "whats wrong with my plants" but they are like my kids. And everybody wants to see their children get a fair chance to succeed

Making a long story short I think I was over-watering my plants. They first time they dropped they were starving for water. But my pump wasn't broke and my timer was set correctly. So I think they got so much water, they just said enough is enough and cut themselves off.

I first flushed with water from the reservoir...BIG MISTAKE. It was the "Lucas Ratio" with GH products. I should of flushed with RO water or bottled but I had to act quick, or so I thought. I didn't have time to post a question that would go unanswered on the forum here (or wrong information all together). This is my 3rd grow but 1st major one where I have a good amount of money in it. I did raise the lights then on my mothers and waited 24 hours before feeding again. But there was a couple issues. I changed the feeding and never flushed them with water before resuming feeding. The leaves kind of came back up and everything looked good for 1 day. Then I resumed feeding and the same thing happened again! Plants starting drooping. It must be from over watering.

Now I flushed this time with bottled water letting them sit for 24 hours now. I turned on the dehumidifier to drop the humidity and pull out the water from the plant and rock-wool media sitting in hydroton clay pebbles within the plastic pot. Whewww.

Plants look way better now and recovering. They are reaching for the light once again. I will continue trying to keep the room around 50% humidity. I think this will continue to allow the plant to sweat and pull water up. Now it can dry out the root zone. I have fantastic oxygenated water with my air-stones and awesome air pump. Plus I use "Liquid Orca" from the Great White product line. This supposedly should help grow and protect my roots. Of course that is when I turn my timer back on and resume feeding. Hoping the roots don't rot from the watering, I did pull one up and took a peak underneath her skirt. I'm gonna let these girls get off their period for a little bit and then I will buy them dinner later in a few days LMAO

I know she doesn't look the best but any helpful loving advice would be appreciated. I will post pics of how the clones are doing soon.

Peace

Sorry my friend it seems gh folks are having these issues ive been reading about all kinds of similar stuff. I use one part ionic. Ill find the link of a gh expert for ya that is having same isssue with the gh guys chiming in...

UPDATE 3-21-16

Well the clones are steadily growing! Took a few pics to share. Feeding them with about 10ml a day by hand of the Lucas formula. They are responding fantastic. I'm putting this puppy in cruise control for a while but I'll still keep my eyes on the road.

Also I threw in a couple pics of the mothers. They're recovered and I'm now trying to tame them from getting too big.

UPDATE 3-27-16


Took some more clones off the mothers because I'm having a few issues with my clones now. I don't know if it was root rot or root issues but I had to address the bottom of the rockwool cubes. Not white at all. Possibly stained from nutes but some roots were questionable.

I took some sterile scissors and trimmed down the bottom. I heard this also stimulates branching.
3 of the clones looked like absolute crap and drooping. I am thinking I didn't have an adequate amount of roots when I transplanted from the turbo cloner. I never cloned before and possibly took them prematurely. However I know about 4 or 5 clones I took out had awesome root systems. And coincidentally those appear the strongest out of the bunch.

So a few more in the cloner now and we'll see them in about 10 days. Its already been like 1 or 2.

UPDATE 4-20-16

HAPPY 4/20! TODAY IS THE DAY I FLOWER!!!!!

So today I moved my 8 clones into flower. I am using a flood and drain setup. I've never done this before and I know I have to keep a close eye on everything. I took some pics and will upload them soon. It funny how this landed on 4/20 rofl. It was meant to be (hopefully).

I am using 2 600w HPS lights and 2 flood tables. I have the ballast set to 75% so it should act like a 450w HPS. I vegged them at 230w under T5s. So this is double the watts for double the height. My new mission is to find out how many times to flood the table and to what height. I have it set for 2 floods now. This may be too much since rockwool holds so much water. But I will check them tomorrow. If they are absoloutely saturated then I know I should bring it down to 1 time a day. If it is still saturated then I might want to try everyother day. MORE LEARNING ..YAY.....NOT....lol

I just want my own bud so bad. I been working at this for 4 months, studying all I can. Any advice please post.

Thanks

UPDATE 4-30-16

10 days into flowering. It was rough at first with the transition. I now know you are not suppose to transport rockwool into hydroton but it still can be done. I will eventually eliminate the rockwool after a few more grows. The problem was the rockwool media was getting too wet. So to solve this I made sure just the roots and maybe the tip of the bottom of the rockwool gets wet. This allows the cube to stay dry and the roots to get nutes and water. The plants look way better today then yesterday. They still don't look the best because they weren't the healthiest when I moved them to flower. Then they started to yellow and show problems because of the rockwool being overwatered. It is corrected now (I think).

What are you gonna do though? Start over and wait another 2 months? Flower these bitches. What I get is what I get. I will just have to learn what I did wrong and make sure not to repeat it. Anyway I am happy because they are budding! 10 days in and in my opinion they look good for my first hydro grow. I put some pics up and I have to apologize for the HPS light. It makes it difficult to see what is going on.

I attached 2 sets of pics. The first set is what they looked like when I put them in. The second is today, 10 days in.

UPDATE 5-13-16

Ok so its been a little over 3 weeks now in flower.
I was gonna wait until 4 weeks before posting but I couldn't help myself.

• The ladies are eating about 100ppm per day! And they are drinking a lot of water too.
• I have been topping off the rez with RO water about every other day.
• The pH is steadily climbing from 5.8 to 6.5... I let it drift before adjusting it back down.
• Finally got the CO2 hooked up as well.

So here are the pics Not bad if I say so myself.

Comments? Suggestions? Please let me know!

UPDATE 5-18-16

4 weeks into flowering and starting week 5.

That is all...