bodhi seeds

jdoorn14

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people need to know what seeds are actually worth running.

We need expanded gene pools, quality selections, and selfless open information sharing to save the plant.
Everyone has different goals, experiences, and situations. Know what's great about cannabis? There's something for everyone...or there could be if people would do more thinking for themselves and experimentation beyond what's spoon-fed to them by corporate cannabis.

I quite enjoy reading your summaries--even if I don't always agree with your findings or the persuasive verbiage and/or broad generalities in some of the phrasing. But, they're your opinions and they are based on your experiences.
 

nuskool89

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AB I sent a message a couple weeks ago I think but wanted to ask about a HP cross I got as a freebie. It’s “orange wookie” x 88hp

Wondering the likelihood of finding a pure Cali o pheno would be considering the HP dad

Did orange wookie ever drop as a stand alone cross?
 

AdvancedBuffalo

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...it doesn't get you high and the whole line should be avoided?! You're hilarious dude.

How many seeds did you pop and how many phenos did you flower out? What do you look for when you harvest? And which medium were these grown out in? Thanks.
I popped 24 seeds, grew out 14 phenos, gallon pots on auto irrigation 100% coco. Most of the phenos finished at 8-9 weeks with one wild one that just seemed to keep on flowering. It was a super odd flower time because usually live tropical notes indicates a longer runner with this sort of lineage. The sweaty pheno actually finished in 42 days and isnt showing easy re veg traits, just like a short runner.

The live smells were really promising. Some Haze C dominant with those sprite terps on top of hashplant hashy/pepper notes. Not much pure kush came through which was odd to see. Structure was super hashplant dominant on most except for the stretcher. It honestly reminded me of peach hashplant. Kinda fruity/peppery live notes.

The dry/cure resulted in something just like the peach hashplant. The fruit terps transitioned to a more spice/solvent smell and the rest of the body of the flavor was super ghash leaning. It was like a sharp note of a scentless solvent feeling in the nose with a slight spice/fruit and hashy back end. This is pretty much the story for most phenos. You could argue that it has fruit, but I dont see that. I consider Trop Cookies a fruit smell. This is like 10% of that. Hint of fruit.

There was really no taste on the volcano at 380F. I smoked on each pheno throughout the day and never really felt much from them. It was the weirdest thing ever. I was literally packing the volcano full and taste testing each pheno every 3 mins or so and i was surprisingly not feeling much. I finally had to smoke the phone home bud to wind the day down and that was considerably more potent.

The sweaty one was more potent and has a decent taste, but it needs work. It smells like sweaty gym bags. It has sortof a hash front end, no taste exhale, but a oily sweaty tasting mouth coat comes on after a second and builds with each hit. Definitely one with a super interesting profile but would be better when paired with a good chem or OG. The high was neither uplifting or sedating and felt a bit sterile.

I'm testing 140 plants right now so tolerance is a bit fucked. Like 30 flower phenos, 6 for rosin, 2 new live resin batches. Im literally smoking and using the peak all day. I can still get a good high from good flower.
 

dankbydrew

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I popped 24 seeds, grew out 14 phenos, gallon pots on auto irrigation 100% coco. Most of the phenos finished at 8-9 weeks with one wild one that just seemed to keep on flowering. It was a super odd flower time because usually live tropical notes indicates a longer runner with this sort of lineage. The sweaty pheno actually finished in 42 days and isnt showing easy re veg traits, just like a short runner.

The live smells were really promising. Some Haze C dominant with those sprite terps on top of hashplant hashy/pepper notes. Not much pure kush came through which was odd to see. Structure was super hashplant dominant on most except for the stretcher. It honestly reminded me of peach hashplant. Kinda fruity/peppery live notes.

The dry/cure resulted in something just like the peach hashplant. The fruit terps transitioned to a more spice/solvent smell and the rest of the body of the flavor was super ghash leaning. It was like a sharp note of a scentless solvent feeling in the nose with a slight spice/fruit and hashy back end. This is pretty much the story for most phenos. You could argue that it has a hint of hint of fruit, but I dont see that. I consider Trop Cookies a fruit smell. This is like 10% of that. Hint of fruit.

There was really no taste on the volcano at 380F. I smoked on each pheno throughout the day and never really felt much from them. It was the weirdest thing ever. I was literally packing the volcano full and taste testing each pheno every 3 mins or so and i was surprisingly not feeling much. I finally had to smoke the phone home bud to wind the day down and that was considerably more potent.

The sweaty one was more potent and has a decent taste, but it needs work. It smells like sweaty gym bags. It has sortof a hash front end, no taste exhale, but a oily sweaty tasting mouth coat comes on after a second and builds with each hit. Definitely one with a super interesting profile but would be better when paired with a good chem or OG. The high was neither uplifting or sedating and felt a bit sterile.

I'm testing 140 plants right now so tolerance is a bit fucked. Like 30 flower phenos, 6 for rosin, 2 new live resin batches. Im literally smoking and using the peak all day. I can still get a good high from good flower.
Thanks for the notes. To be fair, I've never gotten high from a volcano (other vapes get me ripped). Trop Cookies was like the funkiest orange cheese for me. I guess it's all relative, but I think its time your super big company hires some testers amigo. ;)
 

AdvancedBuffalo

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Everyone has different goals, experiences, and situations. Know what's great about cannabis? There's something for everyone...or there could be if people would do more thinking for themselves and experimentation beyond what's spoon-fed to them by corporate cannabis.

I quite enjoy reading your summaries--even if I don't always agree with your findings or the persuasive verbiage and/or broad generalities in some of the phrasing. But, they're your opinions and they are based on your experiences.
Hey dude I actually really appreciate that feedback. I need to be more specific. Im just going through so many plants right now that its a total mind scramble. I need to figure out a better note taking system.

AB I sent a message a couple weeks ago I think but wanted to ask about a HP cross I got as a freebie. It’s “orange wookie” x 88hp

Wondering the likelihood of finding a pure Cali o pheno would be considering the HP dad

Did orange wookie ever drop as a stand alone cross?
Shit sorry! I personally havent had a lot of luck getting pure mom terps out of Ghash crosses. I think the OG crosses work better because the OG and Ghash seem to have flavor profiles that meld together well. The ghash note and orange note kinda seem like opposites for taste profile so Id probably bank on the ghash always being in there. It took me 50 seeds to find a Larry OG leaner with no Ghash taste/nose. Id have to guess that it would be even rarer to find a pure orange in a cross like that.

Edit: I did forget, sometimes the Ghash dad can give water hash characteristics. My lemon hashplant keeper cut is really HP dominant dueing harvest and will shift even more towards acrid hash after dry/cure. It still has lemon terps, but not very strong. Funny thing is, it does wash @ 3.9% and pressed at around 88% average. The rosin started off extremely dry, almost like crumble. But as time goes on the lemon smell transitioned and started to dominate the hash smell. 2 months later and now its pure lemon.

Same thing happened to the Electric Cowboy rosin. Starts out acrid/hash with a little bit of mom, and then becomes mom dominant after 2 months cold cure. So I think an orange flavored rosin may be in there if you make bubble.
 
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AdvancedBuffalo

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Thanks for the notes. To be fair, I've never gotten high from a volcano (other vapes get me ripped). Trop Cookies was like the funkiest orange cheese for me. I guess it's all relative, but I think its time your super big company hires some testers amigo. ;)
Im packing big bowls and inflating contractor bags over here! I just love this for testing because its always consistent. Super awesome for taste testing, usually the fresh terps transfer to solventless suuuper well. Speaking of hash, that is the tolerance killer there. I got a peak pro and pressing that button is hard to avoid.

So testers are difficult to find, as odd as that sounds. This area is overwhelmingly dominated by hype and the all the flower is rushed without any care. The standard are really low. I tried doing testers for my first release and everyone raved about everything. It was cool to see how much people liked old genetics, but it didnt help with choosing keepers haha.

Ive found a circle of snobby smokers who give me brutal feedback and its really helpful. But I have to test everything myself to at least round up the top 10% or so. Im not big either. Just a guy in his house trying to grow as much as he can without his SO leaving him.
 

dankbydrew

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Im packing big bowls and inflating contractor bags over here! I just love this for testing because its always consistent. Super awesome for taste testing, usually the fresh terps transfer to solventless suuuper well. Speaking of hash, that is the tolerance killer there. I got a peak pro and pressing that button is hard to avoid.

So testers are difficult to find, as odd as that sounds. This area is overwhelmingly dominated by hype and the all the flower is rushed without any care. The standard are really low. I tried doing testers for my first release and everyone raved about everything. It was cool to see how much people liked old genetics, but it didnt help with choosing keepers haha.

Ive found a circle of snobby smokers who give me brutal feedback and its really helpful. But I have to test everything myself to at least round up the top 10% or so. Im not big either. Just a guy in his house trying to grow as much as he can without his SO leaving him.
Gotta love friends always saying it's the best they've had everytime. Different strokes for different folks!

Regarding the company comment, I'm just teasing how you believe and often reiterate that your comments on here will help your "competition" and lead to your demise. Would like to think we're all in this together, but maybe it's cutthroat out there.
 

AdvancedBuffalo

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Wow, can't believe I didn't catch this before. Eat your ego dude. I thought you were in it for the plant and the community. Weird vibes.
I literally post photos of plants in grow rooms with bench drain systems, dehus, mini splits, etc. Do you think Im hunting through this many plants for personal smoke? I dont think I could smoke that much bud!

I do this for the plant and the smokers. The quality out here is pretty spotty and people deserve to smoke good bud. That, and the plant is incredible and has so much diversity and potential. Commercial entities are moving in right now and are attempting to regulate the medical community, essentially slowly suffocating it. Its basically Cali in the 90's. We have 3000 active caregivers, all grower owned. Either home based or at a facility. You can run a "business" here growing in a tent and making seeds. You just need a business classification because the IRS will literally audit you to death if you do anything in a shady way.

Gotta love friends always saying it's the best they've had everytime. Different strokes for different folks!

Regarding the company comment, I'm just teasing how you believe and often reiterate that your comments on here will help your "competition" and lead to your demise. Would think we're all in this together, but maybe it's cutthroat out there.
I say "competition" because thats what they are in a business sense.. A lot of my good friends are cultivators but by definition we are eachothers competition. Doesnt mean I dont help them. I made that statement to illustrate how I prioritize open information sharing over smart business decisions.. Specifically because of the "we are stronger together" mindset. I want these people growing better bud. We are stronger as one entity, but everyone needs to be performing at their best.

If people are running boof cuts and are releasing bad bud, it makes us easier to get rid of.
 

copkilller

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My mountain temples are finicky, but once again they are the best smelling in the grow, the "floor cleaner" phenos smell so so so good i want to cry, i also want to cry because my grow is pretty dialed in, and all my other bodhi plants are thick and green, but my mountain temples are not happy, not sure what's going on, what do they need that the other strains don't? (i transplanted 'em during flower, they were in 1gal pots they overgrew like overnight, i had to) i think i have 12+ females i'm pheno hunting

if they weren't smelling so god damn great I'd toss 'em and label 'em as hard to grow (hard to grow for me)

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AdvancedBuffalo

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My mountain temples are finicky, but once again they are the best smelling in the grow, the "floor cleaner" phenos smell so so so good i want to cry, i also want to cry because my grow is pretty dialed in, and all my other bodhi plants are thick and green, but my mountain temples are not happy, not sure what's going on, what do they need that the other strains don't? (i transplanted 'em during flower, they were in 1gal pots they overgrew like overnight, i had to) i think i have 12+ females i'm pheno hunting

if they weren't smelling so god damn great I'd toss 'em and label 'em as hard to grow (hard to grow for me)

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Temple is a heavy feeding mom. Floor cleaner smells are totally her profile based on my experience with Dragon Temple. She’s really dominant.

Ive seen that leaf tip curl in instances where a consistent watering schedule is abruptly changed, usually increasing feed/soil moisture too much for too long. Acute Root stress pretty quickly will hit every leaf on the plant at once.

N is low too but they are heavy feeders so that is normal.

I’d increase the nutrients that they get (idk you’re grow style, ymmv) and allow for more significant drydowns. That’s what I find works best for equatorial leaners.
 

copkilller

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wow, thank you so much, i will do that

i have recycled roots organic soil, and organic dr earth dry amendments for fertilizer, this plant just needs more fertilizer, the leaf tips are not nutrient burn?
 

dankbydrew

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wow, thank you so much, i will do that

i have recycled roots organic soil, and organic dr earth dry amendments for fertilizer, this plant just needs more fertilizer, the leaf tips are not nutrient burn?
My initial thoughts are was the transplant shocked it/other soil is hotter/wetter. If it were mine, I'd go with water. Maybe a little coconut and aloe to see how it responds.
 
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GreenHighlander

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Im kinda piggybacking off this post here. Please @mawasmada dont think this is directed at you. You are one of the many awesome people who post here.

I appreciate all of the great people here, but lately the thread has been tainted with circlejerking echo chamber style shitposting and a large number of quality members have already left. Now we have individuals who's heads are stuck so far up their own asses to the point that they no longer mind the smell of shit. It has started to resemble a facebook group with the polarized posts and shit slinging. Children at recess. It has to stop or this thread will die. Forums are already taking a beating because of Discord and IG. No need to drive more people away.

For growers, I try to be an open book with new findings, run reports, positives, negatives, etc. For breeders I will give direct feedback as time moves on as long as the breeder is available to communicate. For patients, I keep them updated on hunting and run reports. Every step of the way I try to provide complete transparency and promote open information sharing. There have been a select few individuals who have been incredibly helpful and generous with their information sharing. I just want to reciprocate the acts that have helped me so much on my journey with the plant.

Regarding the "Is this information fabricated?" crazy talk.. I run a business in the medical cannabis sector and the information I share only helps competition. Financially, it could completely screw me over. I do this because the cannabis genetic sector is absolutely fucked and people need to know what seeds are actually worth running. We need expanded gene pools, quality selections, and selfless open information sharing to save the plant. Egos and clown shoes have no place in this process.

The more recent bodhi hunts have given me more negative than positive to write about. I wish that wasn't the case.. But that has been the trend. Old releases were dramatically better. These recent packs were tested retail releases so critique is fair game and should be encouraged by growers and the breeder. Lying or keeping quiet doesn't do anyone any favors.

Now for some good news:

Electric Cowboy:

Room parameters:
84F
65% RH
Ambient CO2 open vent, positive pressure
1400umol/m^2/sec light intensity weeks 1-6, 1100umol/m^2/sec weeks 6-8, 700umol/m^2/sec weeks 8-9.
12/12 weeks 1-8, 18/6 weeks 8-9, now on 24/0 for re veg.

There was a massive screw up during the run where a breaker failed and both the AC and dehu shut off for 3 hours. The room reached 115F, 100%RH and some tops were annihilated. I just continued things as normal to see what would herm/nanner. Stress test, if you will. Nothing hermed, no nanners to be found. These phenos are just about as stable as they can get.

Irrigation:
Input EC @ 2.4
The rest of the irrigation data:
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So far the only potential keeper:
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No herms on all 18 phenos. 8 week finish on most, OG type structure, piercing OG kerosine notes alongside lemon vanilla hand cream. I cut a branch to test last week. It is some of the most potent bud that I have come across from my hunting. I have had Larry OG from a few locals and this has much more kick. Its dramatically more narcotic/body heavy than the typical ghash leaners.

Tons of people asked about the leaf curl when I shared this on IG so.. Leaf curl is a physical response to too much light. Plants do not have the ability to regulate their photosynthetic rates at the cellular level, so instead they will physically alter leaf shape and size to reduce total light absorption. This is supposed to be common with OGs so.. Neat. We have a low light pheno over here.

So.. I have popped 48 seeds from this cross so far. 12 last year and 36 for this hunt. The keeper rate for this one looks like 1 in 15 or so for a decent OG leaning pheno, 1 in 50 for the jaw droppers. She smoked extremely well and she isnt even done drying yet. Cure should be nuts. Fingers crossed. All phenos test washed at a minimum of 3.5% WPFF return. This one is more like 4.5% from my testing. Live rosin is a real winner with this cross.

Passiofruit Hashplant was, for the most part, bud that didn't even get me high. For most Id recommend avoiding unless you know the lines and have a specific goal in mind based on the lineage. Based on the mom notes, it seems like it would perform better with a dad that has brighter tropical notes. There was a rank smelling sweaty pheno in there, but she needs a bit of breeding work to complete the flavor profile. The high was very basic with no feel good or nuanced qualities to it. Fruity stuff doesnt seem to play nice with 88g13hp. The OG crosses and DLA lines seem to be the go-to ghash crosses.

As always.. Information/Opinions are subject to change as the flower dries and goes through cure. More information to come as long as this place doesnt turn into a clown convention again.

Your lack of self awareness is only trumped by your ego . I love how you will even say something as dumb as blah blah blah this whole line is trash or blah blah blah no good phenos found , followed by " still have to smoke test " . Never mind the numbers you are basing that opinion on. Not to mention all the other shit talking you have done here since you came. The interesting fact is that you played a huge part in killing this thread and I am not even close to the only one who feels that way. You have been and have brought toxic energy from day one. I couldn't give a flying fuck about your flipflop reports.
IMHO you are a prime example of what legalization has done and it is sad.
Anyway keep pumping your plants as full of nutes as possible , like any other cash cropper ,and please keep talking down to anyone who might not feel the same as you, the master grower does.

Anyway high to the regulars who might still be around :eyesmoke:.
To keep it Bodhi related Koko the Gorilla Ghani is still treating me well after all these years.

Cheers :)
 

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AdvancedBuffalo

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Your lack of self awareness is only trumped by your ego . I love how you will even say something as dumb as blah blah blah this whole line is trash or blah blah blah no good phenos found , followed by " still have to smoke test " . Never mind the numbers you are basing that opinion on. Not to mention all the other shit talking you have done here since you came. The interesting fact is that you played a huge part in killing this thread and I am not even close to the only one who feels that way. You have been and have brought toxic energy from day one. I couldn't give a flying fuck about your flipflop reports.
IMHO you are a prime example of what legalization has done and it is sad.
Anyway keep pumping your plants as full of nutes as possible , like any other cash cropper ,and please keep talking down to anyone who might not feel the same as you, the master grower does.

Anyway high to the regulars who might still be around :eyesmoke:.
To keep it Bodhi related Koko the Gorilla Ghani is still treating me well after all these years.

Cheers :)
Remind me to never share herm reports lol
 

AdvancedBuffalo

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wow, thank you so much, i will do that

i have recycled roots organic soil, and organic dr earth dry amendments for fertilizer, this plant just needs more fertilizer, the leaf tips are not nutrient burn?
In my experience, leaf tip burn won’t cause an upward bend towards the ceiling like that. That happened to my bandaid hazes and it was caused by me increasing watering duration. My theory is that equatorial crosses are much more sensitive to shifts in soil temperature and water content. They see 12/12 all the time near the equator so, they rely on irrigation patterns and rootzone temp to trigger senescence. Any drastic shift in that root zone and they show weird issues like this.

What id do is ride it out. Plants, especially ones like these really like thorough drydowns and consistency when watering.

Temple is a seriously vigorous grower and she is hungry. I cant imagine that this would be caused by nute burn, especially since you are showing deficiency at the bottom leaves. She will pull through and you will have a great harvest. The citrus-fruit-sprite terps on the temple leaners is amazing. I got a few crazy awesome mango SSH leaners too that were deadly potent, but from a different cross.

Id be checking each pheno to see if the weird leaf tip issue plagues the Temple leaners more than the appy leaners. That could provide some insight on how they express.

Good luck!
 
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