bodhi seeds

YardG

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Similar... really hoping to get these plants outdoors fulltime soon (Soul Mates in the back two, Lemon Ghani in the center, Hollyweed lower left of the larger pots, Snow Monkey in the Solo, and cousins Old Family Purple x Jabbas Stash and SSDD x Chocolate Trip in the other two containers).

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steveydvee

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super interested in this one whats the smell like?
Fruity profile I’ll go more in depth when I have time tomorrow to really smell the terps. Out of all bodhi strains, blue sunshine even when grown terribly wrong threw out a crazy amount of trichs. My 4th run. Two phenos came out very nice with Sativa leafs which are my keepers. Stout pheno was alright. And there was another pheno that just didn’t produce at all medium height. Look for Sativa traits IMO. If you do get the pack.
 

AdvancedBuffalo

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If im being honest I'd have to agree about mms, I have grown most on your list. Couple good cuts found from others as well. My bodhi or inkognyto keepers had much more vigorous growth as well. MMS has not YET given me that wow factor when harvesting. I am not talking down on them as I have had some subpar bodhi as well. Having said that the keepers I've found in bodhi bean will rival or beat out verified clone only I've held over the years. And I've had ALOT of them.

I sit on alot of beans from many breeders I respect. When looking for that random, exotic f1 cross that's different etc. Bodhi fits the bill perfectly. The money he asks is much more fair as well. Especially considering the freebies etc. That's a good dude not just in it for the money. Just spreading love of seed.


Happy growing!
Always be weary when every damn smoke report describes the purple dominant bud as "psychadelic, trippy, overwhelming, and life altering". Every single time I have grown a strain with purple influence, the LEAST purple phenos were always the best. For that reason I completely avoid purple coloration when hunting. Anthocyanin, the pigment responsible for purple coloration, is a general response to oxidative stress. I view purple plants as analogs to humans who cant go outside because they are allergic to air and sun.

I still have this stupid Purple Unicorn F5 around because of a cloning mix up while I was away on COVID quarantine and I. Fucking. Hate. This. Plant. Cant be too wet, cant be too dry. Loves high light during veg, hates it once you switch to flower. Terps are just basic purple grapey-blackberry terps, high is generic and super weak. It strikes me as a plant that just absolutely hates being alive and will do anything that it can do die. I swear I hear all 9 of them screaming "Kill me!" when I open the door to my main flower room. I have seen better results with this cut outside, but its still really bad compared to anything else I have run.

I see purple coloration as a "run the other way" characteristic. Weak, generic, generally very sensitive, and objectively worse than any comparable green bud. The MMS Star Pupil has always been fun to follow. The few who I know who ran MMS gear have always told stories about high cull rates and weak bud. Id never take a chance with a breeder who seems to label everything as euphoric.
 

mindriot

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I still have this stupid Purple Unicorn F5 around because of a cloning mix up while I was away on COVID quarantine and I. Fucking. Hate. This. Plant. Cant be too wet, cant be too dry. Loves high light during veg, hates it once you switch to flower. Terps are just basic purple grapey-blackberry terps, high is generic and super weak. It strikes me as a plant that just absolutely hates being alive and will do anything that it can do die. I swear I hear all 9 of them screaming "Kill me!" when I open the door to my main flower room. I have seen better results with this cut outside, but its still really bad compared to anything else I have run.
I guess I'll put my pack at the back of the queue... glad I decided to run Garfunkle instead. Thanks for the info.
 

mawasmada

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Always be weary when every damn smoke report describes the purple dominant bud as "psychadelic, trippy, overwhelming, and life altering". Every single time I have grown a strain with purple influence, the LEAST purple phenos were always the best. For that reason I completely avoid purple coloration when hunting. Anthocyanin, the pigment responsible for purple coloration, is a general response to oxidative stress. I view purple plants as analogs to humans who cant go outside because they are allergic to air and sun.

I still have this stupid Purple Unicorn F5 around because of a cloning mix up while I was away on COVID quarantine and I. Fucking. Hate. This. Plant. Cant be too wet, cant be too dry. Loves high light during veg, hates it once you switch to flower. Terps are just basic purple grapey-blackberry terps, high is generic and super weak. It strikes me as a plant that just absolutely hates being alive and will do anything that it can do die. I swear I hear all 9 of them screaming "Kill me!" when I open the door to my main flower room. I have seen better results with this cut outside, but its still really bad compared to anything else I have run.

I see purple coloration as a "run the other way" characteristic. Weak, generic, generally very sensitive, and objectively worse than any comparable green bud. The MMS Star Pupil has always been fun to follow. The few who I know who ran MMS gear have always told stories about high cull rates and weak bud. Id never take a chance with a breeder who seems to label everything as euphoric.
Good to hear your feelings and honesty about PU f5, but alarming as well. I'm hoping for better than you describe from my only Purple Unicorn cross. I picked up a couple packs of Purple Star (Jalalabad Star x PU). Purple is pretty, but I'm more into flavor and effect. Maybe the Jalalabad Star will improve those described weaknesses.
Any thoughts?
 

AdvancedBuffalo

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Phone Home Pheno 1 - Wasnt too loud while live, same deal in the jar. The wookie burnt rubber/lavender notes seem to fade to a bready sweet SLIGHT lavender funk. TK retains its sharpie terps. On the grind it smells like nutty bready OG spice with a bit of gassy lavender. Taste is the same as the smell - Overall bready funky OG taste, loud fuel notes, some sweet lavender on the back end. Its a DIVINE tasting bud. This is one of those where the terps dont readily evaporate, so all of the flavor is in the smoke/vapor when combusted. My girlfriend loves the taste of this stuff and she really doesnt like smoking. She kept asking for the volcano bag for another hit!

High is absolutely excellent. Medium-high potency, consistent mild energy without any serious lethargy towards the back end of the high. The experience is extremely relaxing, stress reducing, and uplifting. It is a real nice effect that keeps me reaching for it during these extremely busy times. It makes me melt with love and happiness when I look at my dogs, cats, or SO. Or my plants. It has some serious repeatability too. I can smoke this for a week straight and the effects dont change in strength or duration.

Id say it needs more of a nose in the jar.. But I think this just means that the terpenes are high mass and do not evaporate as readily as others. When I grind it, it has that "Oh shit" effect where you just know it will taste great.

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Lucky Wookie Pheno 1 - Its still drying but I have very high hopes. It was the loudest plant in the room. Sharp and pungent burnt rubber terps, gas, and some slight lavender on the back end. I'm looking at this one and think we have a Appy Bx with extra frost from The White, and loud burnt rubber/lavender from Big Buddy's Lavender. Because of this expression I have some high hopes. 10 days left on the dry until I get to do the taste test!

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Passionfruit Hashplant unmarked pheno - A real cedar/tropical fruit dominant pheno. This one has consistently been the best smelling individual for the entire run. It encompasses exactly what I would be looking for in this cross. Great bud structure from the Ghash, terpene dominance from the Lush. The reason for the orange pistils and speckled leaves is... I kinda mixed up Sanidate with Zerotol for my foliar IPM last week and kiiinda burned all of the plants in this room. Oh well. Stress test! They are all stable.

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Passionfruit HP unmarked pheno - Again with the speckles! Stupid me. Anyways.. This one is going to cause some buzz in the local market. This is looking like an extremely recessive 88g13hp dominant pheno with some of the LOUDEST terps that I have ever found on a plant. It has a nose piercing onion/armpit/fuel funk. Its what Id think of when the name "pirate sweat" comes to mind. I have NEVER had an 88g13hp pheno this putrid, so I think I just lucked out with a very rare recessive pheno. The trichome heads also just fall off when I handle her with gloved hands, so it will definitely wash at a very high return %. Totally not what I was expecting, but this has become the new front runner in the current 200 seed hunt!
 

AdvancedBuffalo

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I guess I'll put my pack at the back of the queue... glad I decided to run Garfunkle instead. Thanks for the info.
Yeah IMO garfunkle has much better potential. You should pull some awesome plants out of that pairing. Keep us updated!

Good to hear your feelings and honesty about PU f5, but alarming as well. I'm hoping for better than you describe from my only Purple Unicorn cross. I picked up a couple packs of Purple Star (Jalalabad Star x PU). Purple is pretty, but I'm more into flavor and effect. Maybe the Jalalabad Star will improve those described weaknesses.
Any thoughts?
You have no idea how bad I wanted to like the PU F5. The veg plants were incredible. Great root development, amazing veg vigor/uniformity, and great structure. Everything goes well until flowers start expanding and bracts swell. It seems to develop a ton of purple, then leaf cannibalism starts, and most just wont finish indoors. I have 9 of these damn things on week 14 of 11/13 and they are still clear triched with white pistils. At this point Im just letting them run until I chop my Bandaid Hazes that are next to them. I will just run them to live resin.

I see absolutely no point in running anything crossed with PU unless purple coloration and blackberry terps are your priority. The other phenos expressed an antique wood terp that I wasnt particularly fond of. Many others report a shit smell in PU f3 crosses as well. Chem D brings those terps with potency and will actually finish.

Anyone who is reading this who disagrees, you have a right to that opinion. I havent run any PU crosses, only the pure F5's. This opinion is based on by experience with 9 phenos that all turned out.. Not great.
 

dankbydrew

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Always be weary when every damn smoke report describes the purple dominant bud as "psychadelic, trippy, overwhelming, and life altering". Every single time I have grown a strain with purple influence, the LEAST purple phenos were always the best. For that reason I completely avoid purple coloration when hunting. Anthocyanin, the pigment responsible for purple coloration, is a general response to oxidative stress. I view purple plants as analogs to humans who cant go outside because they are allergic to air and sun.

I still have this stupid Purple Unicorn F5 around because of a cloning mix up while I was away on COVID quarantine and I. Fucking. Hate. This. Plant. Cant be too wet, cant be too dry. Loves high light during veg, hates it once you switch to flower. Terps are just basic purple grapey-blackberry terps, high is generic and super weak. It strikes me as a plant that just absolutely hates being alive and will do anything that it can do die. I swear I hear all 9 of them screaming "Kill me!" when I open the door to my main flower room. I have seen better results with this cut outside, but its still really bad compared to anything else I have run.

I see purple coloration as a "run the other way" characteristic. Weak, generic, generally very sensitive, and objectively worse than any comparable green bud. The MMS Star Pupil has always been fun to follow. The few who I know who ran MMS gear have always told stories about high cull rates and weak bud. Id never take a chance with a breeder who seems to label everything as euphoric.
Hmmm... PSS is purple and euphoric, takes a beating too. Super stable. Guessing it’s the lush since the Laos is purple. Can’t wait to hear what you’ll think of those Passionfruit Hashplant. My pack has been sitting on the top shelf of my fridge staring me down.
 

AdvancedBuffalo

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Hmmm... PSS is purple and euphoric, takes a beating too. Super stable. Guessing it’s the lush since the Laos is purple. Can’t wait to hear what you’ll think of those Passionfruit Hashplant. My pack has been sitting on the top shelf of my fridge staring me down.
PSS is on deck! This PFHP gene pool is looking to be incredibly wide and deep, so Lush has shot to the top of my hunting list. I really hope this recessive, incredibly disgusting smelling ghash pheno is more common. Id love to see more reports of others finding it. It was completely unexpected, and serves as a reminder as to why I love hunting gear from Bodhi and others in his circle.

Lush x Kashmir looks to have an even wider pool to select from.. I may run all the seeds I have.
 

BigDavid

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Always be weary when every damn smoke report describes the purple dominant bud as "psychadelic, trippy, overwhelming, and life altering". Every single time I have grown a strain with purple influence, the LEAST purple phenos were always the best. For that reason I completely avoid purple coloration when hunting. Anthocyanin, the pigment responsible for purple coloration, is a general response to oxidative stress. I view purple plants as analogs to humans who cant go outside because they are allergic to air and sun.

I still have this stupid Purple Unicorn F5 around because of a cloning mix up while I was away on COVID quarantine and I. Fucking. Hate. This. Plant. Cant be too wet, cant be too dry. Loves high light during veg, hates it once you switch to flower. Terps are just basic purple grapey-blackberry terps, high is generic and super weak. It strikes me as a plant that just absolutely hates being alive and will do anything that it can do die. I swear I hear all 9 of them screaming "Kill me!" when I open the door to my main flower room. I have seen better results with this cut outside, but its still really bad compared to anything else I have run.

I see purple coloration as a "run the other way" characteristic. Weak, generic, generally very sensitive, and objectively worse than any comparable green bud. The MMS Star Pupil has always been fun to follow. The few who I know who ran MMS gear have always told stories about high cull rates and weak bud. Id never take a chance with a breeder who seems to label everything as euphoric.
I look forward to popping more Bodhi packs because I had the exact same experience with said breeder. Not to shame them though, there were some really beautiful looking plants. Visually they were stunning.
 

2seepictures

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Always be weary when every damn smoke report describes the purple dominant bud as "psychadelic, trippy, overwhelming, and life altering". Every single time I have grown a strain with purple influence, the LEAST purple phenos were always the best. For that reason I completely avoid purple coloration when hunting. Anthocyanin, the pigment responsible for purple coloration, is a general response to oxidative stress. I view purple plants as analogs to humans who cant go outside because they are allergic to air and sun.

I still have this stupid Purple Unicorn F5 around because of a cloning mix up while I was away on COVID quarantine and I. Fucking. Hate. This. Plant. Cant be too wet, cant be too dry. Loves high light during veg, hates it once you switch to flower. Terps are just basic purple grapey-blackberry terps, high is generic and super weak. It strikes me as a plant that just absolutely hates being alive and will do anything that it can do die. I swear I hear all 9 of them screaming "Kill me!" when I open the door to my main flower room. I have seen better results with this cut outside, but its still really bad compared to anything else I have run.

I see purple coloration as a "run the other way" characteristic. Weak, generic, generally very sensitive, and objectively worse than any comparable green bud. The MMS Star Pupil has always been fun to follow. The few who I know who ran MMS gear have always told stories about high cull rates and weak bud. Id never take a chance with a breeder who seems to label everything as euphoric.
I've always felt this way as well except rather than focusing on the presence of anthocyanins I've always attributed it more to the lines being selected for the novelty of being purple over all other traits. Often times with anthocyanin rich purple vegetables they taste very bland (newer varieties are always coming out with improvements though) and pale in comparison to "regular" high quality varieties. The novelty of being purple is usually their main marketing strength and when the novelty factor drops off interest in the variety usually goes with it. In a practical sense I completely agree that purple flowers are almost always inferior to the less purple flowers in a line when judged by effect and potency (opinion). Great reviews by the way, moved Phone Home up in priority for next round..
 

mawasmada

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I've always felt this way as well except rather than focusing on the presence of anthocyanins I've always attributed it more to the lines being selected for the novelty of being purple over all other traits. Often times with anthocyanin rich purple vegetables they taste very bland (newer varieties are always coming out with improvements though) and pale in comparison to "regular" high quality varieties. The novelty of being purple is usually their main marketing strength and when the novelty factor drops off interest in the variety usually goes with it. In a practical sense I completely agree that purple flowers are almost always inferior to the less purple flowers in a line when judged by effect and potency (opinion). Great reviews by the way, moved Phone Home up in priority for next round..
His Phone Home is gorgeous!
 

Clarky16

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Always be weary when every damn smoke report describes the purple dominant bud as "psychadelic, trippy, overwhelming, and life altering". Every single time I have grown a strain with purple influence, the LEAST purple phenos were always the best. For that reason I completely avoid purple coloration when hunting. Anthocyanin, the pigment responsible for purple coloration, is a general response to oxidative stress. I view purple plants as analogs to humans who cant go outside because they are allergic to air and sun.

I still have this stupid Purple Unicorn F5 around because of a cloning mix up while I was away on COVID quarantine and I. Fucking. Hate. This. Plant. Cant be too wet, cant be too dry. Loves high light during veg, hates it once you switch to flower. Terps are just basic purple grapey-blackberry terps, high is generic and super weak. It strikes me as a plant that just absolutely hates being alive and will do anything that it can do die. I swear I hear all 9 of them screaming "Kill me!" when I open the door to my main flower room. I have seen better results with this cut outside, but its still really bad compared to anything else I have run.

I see purple coloration as a "run the other way" characteristic. Weak, generic, generally very sensitive, and objectively worse than any comparable green bud. The MMS Star Pupil has always been fun to follow. The few who I know who ran MMS gear have always told stories about high cull rates and weak bud. Id never take a chance with a breeder who seems to label everything as euphoric.
Most of the people I give bud to really liked the PU for exactly the same reasons you hate it. Nice mild buzz, tasted good and was pretty. One guy said it was his favourite. I got really nice yields and monster buds off it. Not my favorite but hey, different strokes and allIMG_20210115_190124211.jpg
 

AdvancedBuffalo

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Most of the people I give bud to really liked the PU for exactly the same reasons you hate it. Nice mild buzz, tasted good and was pretty. One guy said it was his favourite. I got really nice yields and monster buds off it. Not my favorite but hey, different strokes and allView attachment 4907066
Oh yeah it’s still better than anything dispensary sourced and most outdoor/home grown. I just think Bodhi seed stock has much more to offer if one is looking to take the time to hunt through something for 5-6 months.
 

AdvancedBuffalo

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I've always felt this way as well except rather than focusing on the presence of anthocyanins I've always attributed it more to the lines being selected for the novelty of being purple over all other traits. Often times with anthocyanin rich purple vegetables they taste very bland (newer varieties are always coming out with improvements though) and pale in comparison to "regular" high quality varieties. The novelty of being purple is usually their main marketing strength and when the novelty factor drops off interest in the variety usually goes with it. In a practical sense I completely agree that purple flowers are almost always inferior to the less purple flowers in a line when judged by effect and potency (opinion). Great reviews by the way, moved Phone Home up in priority for next round..
I agree with you on all fronts! Anything line bred for a specific characteristic is bound to sacrifice a ton with other traits. It’s why I really don’t like hunting super refined seeds. The vigor and stability that bodhi achieved with this line is extremely impressive though. Especially for an F5.

I think breeding for anthocyanin has all the side effects of line breeding PLUS the direct effects of breeding for high stress pigment expression. Since that is what triggers anthocyanin buildup in plants. All these purple plants seem dramatically more sensitive than their green siblings.

His Phone Home is gorgeous!
They were all good phenos too! Really nice phenos on both the mom and dad side. Equal dispersion of trait expression from dad dominant to mom dominant. It’s a pretty great line IMO.
 

The Bud Whisperer

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GG4 x SSDD (Freebie) ~approx 65day

I'm excited to see what the effects are like and compare it to Space Monkey, GG4 RIL and SSDD. It looks like she became a little deficient before starting senescence so maybe it would perform better with more food and larger pot. High odor levels but not as intense or as much trichome coverage as the Space Monkey (GG4 x Wookie 15). Leans more towards GG4 odor in my opinion than SSDD. Space Monkey pine smell is still my favorite aroma of the GG4 crosses to date but this smells nice too. Wont have a solid opinion on it until testing the medicinal value but so far I'm impressed for it being a freebie.
Very curious, did it you get any good Pain Relief effects from GG4 x SSDD?
I wanted to see if the SSDD male brings the numbing, nerve pain-killing type effect like classic SSDD is known for.
Thank you much for any info!
 
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