Breeding for authentic sativa happiness. Mextiza, Thai, Angola, Senegal...

New plants growing. I didn't have much success with the SSSDH x Mextiza, but luckily I keep some more seeds. These are the ones in the left columns. 10 out of 12 ACE Honduras (right side)



These are the Ghana x Mextiza. Ghana, sold by CBG, was the most different landrace sativa I've ever had. I have no doubt that it was the real thing. They were so rare that I'll love to see new genes from the Mextiza into her. Ghana will dominate for sure, even that extremely dominant plant that is Mextiza, but I could be wrong.


Good smokes.

Harvest day at only 7 weeks for the Thai Angola Mextiza. I know it is too soon and they are immature but I can't wait more, I need the space in the tent to put the ACE Ethiopians.

Anyway, remember this run of seeds was just to check the quality of the Mextiza male I used (that resulted to be a real good one) and to evaluate how these genetics mix, and that's already done.

I'm sure they'll be a good smoke, and when I make a selection over these plants I'll do different and let them mature.

Anyway, they rock for just 7 weeks and the buds are much harder than I thought. Also, I have to say that both Mextiza and Thai Angola produce very little, as the sativas they are, but this cross turned out to produce much more than any of the parents.

10 plants just harvested.



Bye

Ailalelo said:

Harvest day at only 7 weeks for the Thai Angola Mextiza. I know it is too soon and they are immature but I can't wait more, I need the space in the tent to put the ACE Ethiopians.

Anyway, remember this run of seeds was just to check the quality of the Mextiza male I used (that resulted to be a real good one) and to evaluate how these genetics mix, and that's already done.

I'm sure they'll be a good smoke, and when I make a selection over these plants I'll do different and let them mature.

Anyway, they rock for just 7 weeks and the buds are much harder than I thought. Also, I have to say that both Mextiza and Thai Angola produce very little, as the sativas they are, but this cross turned out to produce much more than any of the parents.

10 plants just harvested.

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ever have experience with Oaxacan landrace before?
I remember when growing Oaxacan(Eldorado) that some of the lower buds weren't ever finished by the time harvest time came, the tops would give a different effect altogether than the more clear/milky trichs the lower buds had. Really electric stuff, I still remember smoking with an older friend(60's) and he kept saying "I feel fast, I feel fast!", that stuff is like a rollercoaster, I love that Mexican variety. I wish I could get my hands on some Oaxacan seeds these days, Panama by Ace seeds was the closest thing I've encountered so far, even similar Lemon-Pepper flavors, but still not as piercing an effect.

Some days ago I pollinated some Mextiza branches with ACE's Ethiopian pollen and I see now that the pistils have changed color.




Today I just pollinated a Thai Angola, that has started explosive flowering quite later than Mextiza. Both are 25 days into 12/12.



This is the Ethiopian male I used. I still have several more.




Cheers

Love it man!! Love the purism! Keep up the very unique journal my dude!

A Thai Angola bud. This is a tricky plant, and I believe it is the first time I could get to a good result with her.

Still curing. Little flavor, easy to smoke. The jar smells bitter, like geranium or opium, but the resin smells a lot like anise. Sometimes it resembles lavender, when it is concentrated and smells somehow bitter, or not sweet. Strong, nice and different.

Confusing as hell. I'll try to make a better test.


The trichomes are ridiculously little, and there are no glandular tricomes like there are in commercial strains. All of the trichomes form an homogeneous white layer.
I can't make an opinion about the smoke yet.

I've just taken some pictures of my flowering clones of Mextiza. I've got several, these are just two. 38 days, less than two weeks for harvest.



And this is the Thai Angola branch that was pollinated with Ethiopian pollen two weeks ago. Seeds are on their way. I bet there will be a couple hundreds of very very little seeds, as the size of the calyxes is in both strains.



Cheers

These are the plants I'm testing now.
ACE's Honduras. I believe they'll mix well with the Mextiza.



Super Silver Sour Diesel Haze x Mextiza. Quite a lot of variation due to SSSDH being a polihybrid. It is just a test grow, but it will probably be a very good smoke, since I know the male I used rocked. And the SSSDH is a killer smoke, although it will compensate the nice effect of the Mextiza and make it heavier, less stimulating.



And this is the freakish plant in the show. Mextiza x Ghana. Some red stems that smell like burnt rubber, as Ghana used to do, but I can't make any prediction on what will come of that cross. Also a test grow.



Cheers

I'm very happy with the Thai Angola Mextiza hybrid. I harvested too early, about a couple weeks earlier, and the weed has been curing for less than a month, but yet these buds hit, and they provide a sweet drunkenness I like a lot.



They also appear to produce well, and much faster than Thai Angola. Some plants smell strong like flowers or fruits, and other have some insecticide-like smell due to the mixture between the lemon on Mextiza and Lavender in the Thai Angola.

I believe they are worth a deeper look, I'll run them again and take cuts as soon as I find some space.

Ailalelo said:

I'm very happy with the Thai Angola Mextiza hybrid. I harvested too early, about a couple weeks earlier, and the weed has been curing for less than a month, but yet these buds hit, and they provide a sweet drunkenness I like a lot.

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They also appear to produce well, and much faster than Thai Angola. Some plants smell strong like flowers or fruits, and other have some insecticide-like smell due to the mixture between the lemon on Mextiza and Lavender in the Thai Angola.

I believe they are worth a deeper look, I'll run them again and take cuts as soon as I find some space.

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Wow I thought I was doing something cool and dif w my Jamaican lambsbread male . Now this is some serious stuff . They look so dam cool especially when dried . Thx so much for recording this !

Do you think people will be able to get over the leafy ‘budless’ look of the pure sativa?

SnidleyBluntash said:

Do you think people will be able to get over the leafy ‘budless’ look of the pure sativa?

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Well, I don't really mind. These plants are not the usual hybrids but I prefer them before anything else. I recommend any smoker around me to test them, and most of them really enjoy this different smoke. But there always is somebody that prefer hybrids because they want this mixed dirty effect that I try to avoid

amazing work. thanks for sharing!!

These are my last Mextiza F2 seeds made in 2015 if I remember well. I'm popping them, but I don't have many expectations because there always were sprouting issues with them. But you never know. I don't want them to get aged and spoiled, and there could be a nice male or female in this last opportunity.

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These are my last Mextiza F2 seeds made in 2015 if I remember well. I'm popping them, but I don't have many expectations because there always were sprouting issues with them. But you never know. I don't want them to get aged and spoiled, and there could be a nice male or female in this last opportunity.

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Run for seeds, good luck

curious2garden said:

Run for seeds, good luck

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This strain is too endogamic. It means that if I made seeds again, most of the seeds won't sprout. I was lucky to get a F1 from the original stock and also a male, so I could make some F2 seeds, but many individuals show genetic issues, and subsequent pollinating to make F3 were unsuccessfull. That's why the seedbank stopped selling it. And that's why I'm working and outcrossing these genetics.

Anyway, I'm impressed. I treated these seeds with an agent that helps germination and put them at 30ºC and I got a lot of seedlings. Some have no central shoot, and others have different mutations, but there are at least 15 of them that look OK at this point.

So I decided to plant 30 Thai Angola Mextiza as well to keep selecting and crossing. This weed is very nice.



Sweet smokes

Ailalelo said:

This strain is too endogamic. It means that if I made seeds again, most of the seeds won't sprout. I was lucky to get a F1 from the original stock and also a male, so I could make some F2 seeds, but many individuals show genetic issues, and subsequent pollinating to make F3 were unsuccessfull. That's why the seedbank stopped selling it. And that's why I'm working and outcrossing these genetics.

Anyway, I'm impressed. I treated these seeds with an agent that helps germination and put them at 30ºC and I got a lot of seedlings. Some have no central shoot, and others have different mutations, but there are at least 15 of them that look OK at this point.

So I decided to plant 30 Thai Angola Mextiza as well to keep selecting and crossing. This weed is very nice.

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Sweet smokes

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Did you treat them with gibberellins? I’ll be curious to hear how your breeding turns out.

curious2garden said:

Did you treat them with gibberellins? I’ll be curious to hear how your breeding turns out.

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I used X-Seeds from BAC, there is some info if you goggle it. I don't know what's on it. It's supposed to be organic.
I believe this work of breeding is providing knowledge as well as very nice weeds to smoke. I'll keep posting about how it goes.
Sweet smokes

After a couple of weeks growing, I can say that many of the Mextiza F2 carry genetic defects like for example not showing a central sprout so they can't grow. At the end, only 9 plants look vital and totally OK. That is, anyway, a good number of plants for the last batch. Probably both good males and females from that. Healthy specimens grow a lot and look very healthy in spite of that endogamy the line shows when inbreeding.




On the other hand, the cross with the Thai Angola made very nice plants. I'll select the one with a strong smell to fruit juice and the best stimulating effect, and I'll let them mature this time. Most of them sprouted and look healthy.



This is a bud and a branch of a Thai Angola at 10 weeks
I believe production is quite OK for a sativa of this kind, and buds look hard and compact. They carry a kind of bitter punch.


Nice smokes

These are the first seeds made with the Mextiza clone and the Ethiopian males. For sure a nice combination.

The ones made with the same Ethiopian males and the Thai Angola clone are still on the plant, this one needs a lot of time and the cross is going to be extreme for sure.




Sweet smokes