Breeding help please

blueberryrose

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what are the characteristics of one of those males you'd like to see get stamped on your next generation of seeds?
what are you calling it Jelly Dream?
 

Dabbie McDoob

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The mother leaning pheno is the only ones that didnt get sacs so far.
And the male I'm probably selecting is the mother leaning pheno.

Its jelly pie crossed with blue dream
Do you have a cut of this plant set aside already? or is that the only plant with those insane resin characteristics?
It will be interesting to see if you can keep that expression in subsequent generations without BX. I would BX that plant a few times.

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Keep up the great job ganga gurl420
 

conor c

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Do you have a cut of this plant set aside already? or is that the only plant with those insane resin characteristics?
It will be interesting to see if you can keep that expression in subsequent generations without BX. I would BX that plant a few times.

I'm enjoying this thread!

Keep up the great job ganga gurl420
I would only bx to the mother if it was stable i think bx ing it to a unstable mother just results in you reinforcing the hermie gene i would say as others say when breeding zero tolerance for hermies is the only right way to do it
 

GrowRijt

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I got 6 females in a tent now and 3 males I'm trying to choose between. Yeah I say screw it ... if I have to really watch for sacs and cut them off...its whatever lol
sometimes the sacs are sterile. Figuring this out was a good thing for me. I am 2 years into a project trying to breed out herm traits from a known hermie mom. I’m doing it just to see if I can. I ran the mom three times and always later male parts on lowers. No seeds ever though. So at that point it just is inconvenient herm and not detrimental to the room. So far though all progeny have the same issue with balls on lowers. Now I’m moving some progeny outdoor and those likely won’t have issues because the mom went outside and busted out like a boss and no balls. In the end I think I’ll find what I expect, which is breeding with sensitive plants gets you sensitive progeny and likely the same issues down the line. I just have to see for myself and either prove I can or can’t. Happy chucking.
 

ganga gurl420

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Do you have a cut of this plant set aside already? or is that the only plant with those insane resin characteristics?
It will be interesting to see if you can keep that expression in subsequent generations without BX. I would BX that plant a few times.

I'm enjoying this thread!

Keep up the great job ganga gurl420
He said their are only 2 real phenos and you can hardly tell them apart. Just that the one that is a bit more mother leaning doesnt have the sacs but all are coated in frost.
When I get mine into flower (mind you I only have t5s) I will show you pics of all of them.
 

ganga gurl420

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I would only bx to the mother if it was stable i think bx ing it to a unstable mother just results in you reinforcing the hermie gene i would say as others say when breeding zero tolerance for hermies is the only right way to do it
That is the plan :)
sometimes the sacs are sterile. Figuring this out was a good thing for me. I am 2 years into a project trying to breed out herm traits from a known hermie mom. I’m doing it just to see if I can. I ran the mom three times and always later male parts on lowers. No seeds ever though. So at that point it just is inconvenient herm and not detrimental to the room. So far though all progeny have the same issue with balls on lowers. Now I’m moving some progeny outdoor and those likely won’t have issues because the mom went outside and busted out like a boss and no balls. In the end I think I’ll find what I expect, which is breeding with sensitive plants gets you sensitive progeny and likely the same issues down the line. I just have to see for myself and either prove I can or can’t. Happy chucking.
Good to know and thank you
 

ganga gurl420

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Do you have a cut of this plant set aside already? or is that the only plant with those insane resin characteristics?
It will be interesting to see if you can keep that expression in subsequent generations without BX. I would BX that plant a few times.

I'm enjoying this thread!

Keep up the great job ganga gurl420
And no I dont havr a cut yet but will take one after they start budding.
This is a pic of the mom when it was still young. There is a jelly pie in the top left ...Screenshot_20200713-091734_Gallery.jpg
 

J-Icky

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If it’s a special plant you want to keep but it keeps growing balls or tossing nanners you can always try Florel if your in the US. The chemical is Ethephon if you can’t find florel.
But it is a source of Ethylene which for cannabis is a female hormone and will stop the growth of all male flowers. You could either spray it on or use a dropper and place it at the node where the branch meets the main stalk.
 

CannaOnerStar

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its incredibly hard to breed out hermy genes completely. Not worth trying.

The thing with hermying is that there are too low amount of hormones that regulate formation of female buds and they end up making some male buds easily. If the genes are good, small light leaks and stuff like that doesent cause the plant to hermie out easily. If a plant hermies easily from stress, it has poor genes, even if they would not hermie all the time or without inducing stress. The genes might be good enough for not to hermie in ideal conditions, but still its not good genes when it comes to sex.

The fact that some hermied tells that there is variation in these genes and if you keep breeding with them ,you will likely get hermies popping here and there, even if you try to outbreed them 10 generations, ofc rarer and rarer longer you breed IF ofc you select just the right plants for breeding. But how do you know if a plant carries genes that hermies easily, if they dont hermie in the perfect conditions? Well you dont. You could ofc try to stress the plants a bit and only choose the ones that dont hermie from a little stress, but it would be far easier to just start over.

If the seeds are just for personal use and you like the genes enough to grow them despite of hermie risk, go ahead, but i would not recommend growing them at all, let along breeding with them. But you do you, maybe you like playing with fire and will grow fire weed because of that :D
 
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